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Over looked tips for S/D

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 stronger08 (original poster member #16953) posted at 10:24 AM on Thursday, July 4th, 2013

I was thinking about something my attorney had told me during my S that I've never seen here before. So I thought I would share. Right after the financial disclosure and a temp separation was agreed upon he told me to stop funding my 401K. Like most I had it deducted pretax from my paycheck. I never gave it much thought before he mentioned this. But it actually saved me some money on the back end of the D. His reasoning was this. By the time you reach an agreement for the final division of assets and then the slow pace the court takes to sign off on the D. This process could be around 2 years give or take. During this time you are actually paying your STBX more money. For every contribution I was making she would get half. Do the math and you will find that came out to several thousands of dollars. If you put $1,000.00 a month in your 401K and it takes 2 years to finalize. That's $12,000.00 you put in your STBX pocket. He told me to keep the excess cash on hand and after the D was final to make the contribution during the first year I filed as single. Not only did it save me money it stopped my XWW from getting anymore. I actually was able to reduce my tax liability the year I put it back in. Im sure there are others here who have tips that are not mentioned often. Maybe we can help out those going through the D process.

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Jennifer99 ( member #39551) posted at 2:33 PM on Thursday, July 4th, 2013

I would have never thought of that. Mine isn't in the $1,000 but it matters to me.

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ButterflyGirl ( member #38377) posted at 3:04 PM on Thursday, July 4th, 2013

Yeah, mine is over $4000 more than what it was when I filed in November (maybe some fluctuations in the market too? It's a 401b, if that makes a difference..). But I thought I'm not allowed to be changing any accounts right now.. Definitely gonna ask my attorney this.. Thinking my divorce is going to continue to take a while..

xBW~ 40
Two DS~ 15 and 11

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Jennifer99 ( member #39551) posted at 3:16 PM on Thursday, July 4th, 2013

Butterfly girl - if you are having it deducted pre-tax you won't be able to make any changes until the open enrollment period/end of plan year. If you are not taking it pre-tax then yes, I would ask your Att if it is ok.

But, since I haven't started the D process I'll be ready and doing this at OE at the end of this year.

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heartbroken_kk ( member #22722) posted at 3:31 PM on Thursday, July 4th, 2013

I'm putting together a "Divorce Binder" where I am putting printouts of emails, other evidence, checklists, articles from the web, etc.

Since I'm trying to be my own lawyer, I want to be super organized when we go into mediation or hearings, etc.

I also have a google doc spreadsheet where i can drop info, make notes, etc from my phone or computer.

FBW then 46, XWHNPDPAFTG the destroyer of my entire life. D-Day 1 '99, D-Day 2,3,4,5,6... '09-'11, D '15. I fell apart. I put myself back together. Forgiveness isn't required. I'm happy and healthy now, and MY new life is good.

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ButterflyGirl ( member #38377) posted at 3:33 PM on Thursday, July 4th, 2013

Yeah, it's deducted pre-tax.. But I think open enrollment is in August/September at my company, so maybe soon..

Thanks again for that! It's certainly an "overlooked tip"

xBW~ 40
Two DS~ 15 and 11

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 stronger08 (original poster member #16953) posted at 7:07 PM on Thursday, July 4th, 2013

You can change your contribution amount at any time. You do not need to wait till next year.

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miadianna ( member #10516) posted at 10:52 PM on Thursday, July 4th, 2013

My XH did that because he knew after 25 years married the judge would grant me some part of that 401K. Our divorce took three years.

Then after the divorce was final he started putting the maximum amount for his age in every year which is $22,500 a year. The problem for me was that my alimony was based on gross salary and he (I believe on purpose) used the amount he reported to the IRS on his tax return as gross salary, which is wrong. Never showed me his W-2. Now we are back in court, what a mess.

Me: BS 60Son: 34years oldDaughter: 32 years old Divorced 4/10/08XH passed away 6/24/16

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roughroadahead ( member #36060) posted at 10:56 PM on Thursday, July 4th, 2013

For anyone who is contemplating any financial moves after you have filed, please check with your L. While I am not commenting on adjusting 401(k) contributions specifically, certain actions may be in contempt in states in which the judge issues a mutual (mostly financial) restraining order upon filing.

BS-Me 30s
WS-Him 30s
D-Day 4/2012 (Insisted EA only)
D-Day 5/2012 (Did I say EA? Ummm..)
Numerous other TT/broken NC d-days until S 1/2013. D settled 11/2013
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2 DS and DD all w/autism

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