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ionlytalkedtoher (original poster member #39802) posted at 2:43 PM on Monday, November 4th, 2013
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LosferWords ( member #30369) posted at 3:18 PM on Monday, November 4th, 2013
I think resentment is a common feeling when dealing with all of this.
I can honestly tell you that being a "giver" versus a "taker" has absolutely no bearing upon the actions that our spouses make. They are going to do what they are going to do.
One thing I have always struggled with is the concept of forgiveness. Have you read "How Can I Forgive You?" by Janis Spring? Great book. This one really helped me with not only forgiveness, but acceptance as well.
How are your husband's actions in the here and now? Is he being loyal and loving to you?
stillcrying4ever ( member #38310) posted at 4:21 PM on Monday, November 4th, 2013
http://www.goasksuzie.com/forgiving-infidelity-101
Here is another something to read on forgiveness. I had posted it before but seemed like most don't want to forgive. Just seems like people want to live in their pain and blame.
I don't want to do that anymore. I'm tired of the pain and sadness. I want to move on and be happy again.
All I can do is work on myself and hopefully from what I do we will become only better as a couple.
When we change ourselves for the better it helps our spouses to change for the better also.
Hoping not to get too much flack from this post.
I really just want to be happy again and will work on myself to try to accomplish that.
D Day May 27, 2012
Married 39 years
2 kids, 3 grand kids and 1 on the way
stillcrying4ever ( member #38310) posted at 4:28 PM on Monday, November 4th, 2013
And believe me....I do all the same things you are still doing. Just not 24/7 but too much. It's so hard!
D Day May 27, 2012
Married 39 years
2 kids, 3 grand kids and 1 on the way
Marathonwaseasy ( member #40674) posted at 4:40 PM on Monday, November 4th, 2013
I want to forgive
Not sure I can just yet though
Me BS, 41
Him WS, 45
EA and PA (PA for 11 months)
DDay 13/9/13
3 children - 15,12,3
WS has bipolar, no excuse...
"We're not broken, just bent. We can learn to love again."
Marathonwaseasy ( member #40674) posted at 4:40 PM on Monday, November 4th, 2013
I want to forgive
Not sure I can just yet though
Me BS, 41
Him WS, 45
EA and PA (PA for 11 months)
DDay 13/9/13
3 children - 15,12,3
WS has bipolar, no excuse...
"We're not broken, just bent. We can learn to love again."
stillcrying4ever ( member #38310) posted at 4:43 PM on Monday, November 4th, 2013
I so understand. I think I forgive and then I don't. Always a constant struggle. But tired of being hurt and sad.
D Day May 27, 2012
Married 39 years
2 kids, 3 grand kids and 1 on the way
heartache101 ( member #26465) posted at 4:58 PM on Monday, November 4th, 2013
I think resentment is the hardest thing to overcome myself. I don't believe I am ever capable to forgive but I have moved on. I resent a lot in my life I just don't want his affair to rule my life. So I try to stay out of the past. I stood in the past at that time not knowing why I was being treated the way I was. Now I know Now I know I will not tolerate it anymore! Nothing is worth the shit I went thru and I will not go thru it again.
Sooo I just try and let the old dog lie as they say.
And look into the future and what you have now. Get out of the past my dear! I know it is hard but you have to let it be.
There are degrees to which you let people back into your life and degrees to which you let them back into your heart-which, of course, are not the same thing
RidingHealingRd ( member #33867) posted at 12:01 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
I have forgiven H. Really, I have
Maybe you really have not forgiven him:
Forgiveness is the renunciation or cessation of resentment, indignation or anger as a result of a perceived offense, disagreement, or mistake, or ceasing to demand punishment or restitution
AND THAT's OKAY.
Don't stress over forgiveness.
ME: 60 BS
HIM: 67 WH
Married: 35 years
D'Day: 10/29/10
in R 10 years and it's working but he is putting 200% into it (as he should) to make it right again.
The truth hurts, but I have never seen it cause the pain that lies do.
crazyblindsided ( member #35215) posted at 12:13 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
I found myself doing the same thing and it led to more upset within myself and I just couldn't take the stress of the A anymore. My WH and I now acknowledge that he has not been a very good husband to me. He was a great boyfriend/fiance, best friend, lover and father. I have not been the best wife either.
As far as forgiveness, I used to think I would never feel it for WH, but I can honestly say I am closer to it every day. The forgiveness because I believe he really does want to become a better person.
fBS/fWS(me):52 Mad-hattered after DD (2008)
XWS:55 Serial Cheater, Diagnosed NPD
DD(22) DS(19)
XWS cheated the entire M spanning 19 years
Discovered D-Days 2006,2008,2012, False R 2014
Separated 9/2019; Divorced 8/2024
MissesJai ( member #24849) posted at 12:15 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
I just want to chime in about forgiveness - and it's been said on SI a gazillion times - you forgive, not for him, but for you. "When someone hurts you, they take power over you. If you don't forgive them, they keep the power. Forgive him, then forgive yourself." Or, "forgiveness is letting go of the hope the past could be any different". Essentially, by not forgiving, you are holding yourself hostage in this prison of pain and resentment. Forgive him for your soul.
44
Happily divorcing..
My Life is Mine!!!!
#BlackLivesMatter
Don't settle for no fuck shit....
crazyblindsided ( member #35215) posted at 12:16 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
MissesJai great response! Thank you it helped me.
fBS/fWS(me):52 Mad-hattered after DD (2008)
XWS:55 Serial Cheater, Diagnosed NPD
DD(22) DS(19)
XWS cheated the entire M spanning 19 years
Discovered D-Days 2006,2008,2012, False R 2014
Separated 9/2019; Divorced 8/2024
RippedSoul ( member #40055) posted at 12:17 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
About a month ago, as my WH and I were cuddling before falling asleep, he thanked me for forgiving him. I hestitated a little. He laughed, a bit awkwardly and a bit understandingly (is that a word?), and I then told him that while I had not forgiven him, I was forgiving him. Does that distinction make sense? I'm working on it, but I'm not there yet. My heart is intent upon forgiving him. I know it's the right thing to do for me, for him, and for our marriage. In many ways, I've forgiven him, but I've still got some hang-ups and fears that assure me the forgiveness is not complete. But that's okay. As long as I'm willing, as long as I've not decided that forgiveness is unattainable, it will happen. Eventually.
BW: 55; SLAWH: 52; M: 28 yrs
DD#1--11/30/12 (prostitute 1)
DD#2--1/29/13 (WH confessed: P1, AP, escorts 1 & 2)
DD#3--9/13 (trolling MILF site)
DD#4--10/8/13 (EA with AP cont'd)
DD: 26; DD: 24; DS: 22; DS: 20
I've never NOT edited my posts.
MissesJai ( member #24849) posted at 12:19 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
you're so welcome, crazyblindsided
44
Happily divorcing..
My Life is Mine!!!!
#BlackLivesMatter
Don't settle for no fuck shit....
AFrayedKnot ( member #36622) posted at 12:27 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
Resentment is like drinking poison and waiting for someone else to die.
BS 48fWS 44 (SurprisinglyOkay)DsD DSA whole bunch of shit that got a lot worse before it got better."Knowing is half the battle"
plainpain ( member #40139) posted at 12:57 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
I know what you mean, about everything coming up to the forefront now. Things I brushed off - a million flirtations with waitresses and girls at the drive-thru and cashiers at the grocery store... it all comes back to me now as foreplay for this big horrific event. A thousand things I made excuses for, or just turned a blind eye to, or laughed at to save myself from humiliation... it all comes back. It's all become so relevant in this new narrative of my life. And everything I thought was important is gone. I am trying so hard not to sink into bitterness and resentment. It is very hard. The A is my first thought in the morning, and my last thought at night. It is with me 24/7. I never don't think about it. I feel like the A has stolen my past, my present and my future. My dream-world has been shattered, and reality is cold. I used to love with my whole heart - now love is an empty word I don't understand.
Me: Believer, 40s
Him: Liar, 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R. It only hurts now when it rains.
rachelc ( member #30314) posted at 1:32 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
"When someone hurts you, they take power over you. If you don't forgive them, they keep the power."
Seems to me they have the power either way..,. They get either a forgiving person or a person they have power to make miserable...
BeyondBreaking ( member #38020) posted at 2:35 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
I completely hear you.
The A is just one example of him being selfish. When you add all of it up, including the A, you can often times begin to see a pattern that you maybe never noticed before- about who is giving, and who is taking. About him being selfish.
I feel TONS of resentment towards H because of the fallout. I feel like he said sorry and decided he wasn't going to do it again...and then left me to deal with the pain and hurt all by myself. I have (many times actually) compared it to him making a mess of the house. Absolutely trashing our living room. He says sorry, he helps clean up some of the mess...but then decides that he is done, and I am left with a messy room to tackle on my own. It's frustrating and hurtful.
We've gotten to the point now where we don't really talk about it- he feels as though he has done all he can do and that it was a transgression that he made before we got married, so if I am not over it, it is my problem now and he won't hear anything about it. I disagree tremendously with his attitude, but he isn't going to change and I would rather just save myself the fight.
I have been cheated on by 3 different men, and I have more DDays than anyone ever should. I am here, just trying to pickup the pieces.
"What did you expect? I am a scorpion."
ILINIA ( member #39836) posted at 2:41 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
My WH A was relatively short lived. I asked my IC why is it taking me months to accept an A that lasted a couple of weeks. I was frustrated that I have put in more time and energy than the whole thing lasted. She told me that I am actually mourning my entire marriage. It wasn't just those weeks that he lied to me, put our family as a lower priority, or didn't care for my feelings, but our entire marriage. A lightbulb turned on. She was right. I could think of several times that his actions were similar through out our entire marriage. I just never thought this is how those actions would evolve.
WeHadItAll ( member #38804) posted at 8:10 AM on Tuesday, November 5th, 2013
I thought I forgave him about 5 months ago - it was like a lightswitch. The weight flew off of me and I felt a thousand times lighter. My bad days/nights got far fewer and further between - from weekly to monthly - and they seemed shorter and less dark than before.
But I've noticed they've been coming back again. The resentment, the anger, the hopelessness. I still believe that I have forgiven him for the A, but I feel like we've reached a plateau and that scares me. I find that he's not pushing forward anymore, not trying so hard anymore to mend things. I can't be the one demanding continued growth and openness - he needs to be present and active in our recovery without my nagging him to do it.
So forgiveness - it's powerful and healing and everything they say, but it's just the first step in R.
Me - BSO, 36
Him - fWSO, 36
9y together. Dday 11/19/12
DDay Nov 2012
R
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