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aLostSoul (original poster new member #41758) posted at 5:41 AM on Sunday, December 29th, 2013
Just when I think I am making progress, I hear his name and go into anxious mode. Then I find myself seeing out information about him. Tonight I was on fb and was chatting with an old co-worker that worked with me and the OM. I made statements about the OM. I was fishing for info about the OM and hoping for validation of my feelings...that it was unfair I was forced to leave my job and he didn't. Thank God my former co-worker didn't take the bait. He didn't give me my heroin. I am thankful for that, but still long for the high.
I know these relapses are normal. I don't want to be normal. I don't want to relapse. I don't want to have to deal with weak moments. I'm frustrated with my behavior and expect better of myself.
Alyssamd24 ( member #39005) posted at 8:06 AM on Sunday, December 29th, 2013
When my A started I was working as a daycare teacher....I worked in a toddler classroom. My 4 yr old daughter attended the daycare and was in the preschool program.
My AP was the father of one of the toddlers in my class; so like you, after telling my director of my A I was given the chance to resign my position before I was fired, and my poor daughter had to leave the center she had been in since she was 16 months old. AP faced no consequences....his son wasn't kicked out of the program or anything, even though my boss knew he was a lying piece of shit (he denied the A to his BW and everyone else sayjng I was stalking him and blackmailing him and making it all up).
I'm rambling so let me get to the point....I had two coworkers who knew all about my A and who the AP waS. At first after I left I would try to get info from them about AP and his BW...and they would be more than happy to give me the details.
After Dday these two friends asked me to to out with them....it would have been nice to see them but I couldn't do it.....I knew seeing them would trigger me and my BH...I didn't want to see them cuz then I would think of my AP. So I politely turned them down and have not seen them or spoken to them in months, and have no intention to. The point is in order to keep my mind off AP I had to cut ties with everyone and everything connected to him.
Sometimes the worst thing that happens to you.....the thing you think you can't survive....its the thing that makes you better than you used to be.
Prayingforhope ( member #41801) posted at 8:15 AM on Sunday, December 29th, 2013
Cutting ties is the only sure way to manage the addiction completely. That means the person you had the A with, obviously, and everyone around that person, ESPECIALLY anyone who enabled you.
I cut ties with 4 of my closest friends, one I have known most of my life, because they enabled the A. This was the request of my BS and I didn't fully understand it at the time, but it helps a ton.
Alcoholics say the same thing...saying no to drinking is only half the battle. The hard work is saying goodbye to your drinking buddies, the bar you used to hang out in, everything.
Finally, I like to carry something with me that helps me remember, in a very physical way, that my health and the chance of R with my BS is more important that any momentary craving. A special coin can help a lot in these situations.
Good luck!
WH 41
BS 40
D-Day Oct 28th, 2013
Together 18 years
Three amazing boys 12, 9 & 6
Praying for hope daily
aLostSoul (original poster new member #41758) posted at 3:01 PM on Sunday, December 29th, 2013
And so goes more punishment for me...I have to cut ties with my work friends (none of whom enabled me. Neither of us told anyone. So the only possible enablement came from people who may have suspected and didn't approach either one of us).
I have really struggled cutting those ties. I have an unusually high sense of loyalty. Somehow it is my responsibility to care and nurture relationships I am in, even if it is to the detriment of my own personal mental health. I don't know why I feel like I need to stay friends with people when it is harmful to me. I obviously can get over my loyalties... I cheated on my husband. Who else should you before loyal to in life??
You both are so right. When I subject myself to interactions with them, it inevitably turns to something about him and My addiction is fed once again. Instead of nurturing the relationships that are destructive, I need to concentrate on my relationship with myself and my BH/M.
Time to stop throwing the pity party. I was such a good party planner... :'(
Destroyedlives ( new member #41812) posted at 3:17 PM on Sunday, December 29th, 2013
I deleted Facebook, MySpace, LinkedIn, Pintrist, Twitter, Skype. If I could delete the internet I would. You don't put an alcoholic in charge of a bar, until you can seek help fix the problem, then you need to take steps to avoid getting sucked back in. *on a side note, I've been "social media free" for 19 months. I don't miss it. I am more productive and think more clearly. I do miss it but nothing like before.
Me: 50 WS
Wife: 49 BS
Married:26yrs
Kids:1 from previous marriage, 3 with BS
DDay:Jan 2012
Your actions determine your outcome
Alyssamd24 ( member #39005) posted at 4:08 PM on Sunday, December 29th, 2013
It is hard to cut those ties I agree. But you are only going to be torturing yourself if you keep contact with your former coworkers... even if you don't talk about OM with them it will still be the elephant in the room.
I miss talking to my old coworkers....in my case they weren't friends of my M....but even if they were it would still be hard.
I also cancelled fb and any other social media site I was on...and don't regret it at all.
Alostsoul,
I forget...does your BH know about your A?
Sometimes the worst thing that happens to you.....the thing you think you can't survive....its the thing that makes you better than you used to be.
aLostSoul (original poster new member #41758) posted at 4:39 PM on Sunday, December 29th, 2013
Yes, my BH knows about the A. The crazy thing is that he is the one who mentioned the OM yesterday and started me on my downward spiral. He was talking about how the OM has been the only jerk in the physician practice I was working at regarding one of the other partners' struggles.
I should have looked at the situation as another example of how he is a manipulator and an a-hole, but my brain wants to continue to spin information so he doesn't look like a jerk. I did it the whole time in our A. There is a reason everyone else thinks he was/is an ass... he is! And I was too f'ing blind to see it.
Deleting FB is a HUGE jump for me. I have unfriended many people that I can't bear to see posts about. However, I need to do the dirty work and unfriend the people that I wish I could stay in touch with...my drinking buddies if you will. I suppose if they are true friends they will understand why. If not, then why would I want them in my life anyway?
ResoluteH ( new member #39673) posted at 5:26 PM on Sunday, December 29th, 2013
I need to do the dirty work and unfriend the people that I wish I could stay in touch with...my drinking buddies if you will.
FB was a big deal for my BW and me because I got in touch with the OW, a friend from high school, through FB. I had been reconnecting with a lot of people from those years, and she was one of them. After DD, I removed all those friends from FB and even blocked several of them, ones that were closest to the OW. I now have a very, very short list of FB friends, and I don't add any new female friends without telling my wife about it. It's been an essential part of our recovery. Sometimes I miss those connections, but that loss is trivial compared to the pain I've caused my wife. And it's trivial compared to the loss I would have suffered if I had gone through with my plan to throw away my marriage. And it's trivial compared to the pain I feel from the damage I've done to my marriage.
Bottom line -- don't think of these losses as your "punishment." Think of them as the things you need to release in order to recover and to save your marriage. Think of them as things you need to do for YOURSELF -- not something that's being forced on you. And I won't kid you -- you're going to have to do far more than just that to recover. But you can do it.
aLostSoul (original poster new member #41758) posted at 6:23 PM on Sunday, December 29th, 2013
Thanks for your thoughts on a compromise to getting rid of fb totally, ResoluteH. I really enjoy keeping in touch with friends through fb but don't need to undo the progress I have already made by creeping on pages I know are triggers. I will unfriend and cut contact with those people that are associated with him in any way.
Perspective...as you mentioned, I need to change mine. The people I am trying to stay friends with aren't really that important to me. They usually don't make contact with me first so they may not even miss the fact that I cut ties. My marriage and family are way more important than me than possibly hurting the feelings of people that aren't proactively maintaining a friendship. Thank you RH.
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