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 Storm03 (original poster new member #66194) posted at 11:18 AM on Thursday, February 7th, 2019

BS admitted he's been talking to women on tinder, and hes made plans to meet with them. DDay was 4 months ago

He went to work away again, I have said Im not sure how we can work on R if he works away, he says he wants to separate and date other people but he invited me to his brothers wedding, he won't tell people we have separated and he still wants to go on vacation with me for my birthday.

We slept together last night after he cuddled me and we were joking and laughing he then asked me when I was going to move out this morning , then he was being nice again

I've mostly just been working focusing on our daughter going to the gym , I'm NC with my AP.

I'm just wondering what's going on with his mind he seems so up and down,

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CausedChaos ( new member #64388) posted at 12:51 PM on Thursday, February 7th, 2019

Hi Storm. I'm sorry you're here. It sucks. The best person to ask about what's on your BH's mind is your BH. Only he can really truly know what he is thinking. I'm sure that's not the answer you were hoping for (it's not what I'd want to hear either ha!)

BUT I can give you some reasons that my own BH has shared as he is doing the same thing. He is looking at women on many different sites. He wants a revenge affair. He wants to make me hurt as much as he is hurting while also trying to make himself feel better. If you were each other's first and only sexual partner, he could be thinking that he kept himself "pure" for you while you did not return the same respect.

His mood swings could be from his hurt. On one hand he maybe still loves you and wants to be kind/loving to you, on the other hand you betrayed him and he's angry at you. He probably hopes that a separation will give him time to think about what he wants to do in regards to staying or leaving.

Again this is not necessarily what he is thinking, only he knows. Try asking him.

Good Luck, I know how much this hurts.

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n8inohio ( new member #63277) posted at 1:47 PM on Thursday, February 7th, 2019

As a BS that fits the description "each other's first and only sexual partner" You feel like your completely undesirable after your find out about the A. The only person you have been with has now choose some one else over you. A site like tinder can give you instant feedback from other women giving you a ego boost that you still are worth pursuing. I've though about joining sits like tinder that just for that purpose. I never plan on meeting anyone as it would completely destructive to any kind of reconciliation. But in the BS mind along with Anger you feel failure as a man to attract the opposite sex. Tinder is a quick way to regain that feeling. Another reason would be to create some worry on the WW side to test to see if the WS will react to try an fight to prevent the "Revenge Affair". To see how much desire there is on the WS side to hold the M together.

D-Day 3/29/18
D-Day#2 1/22/19 "Same Person"
BH 45
WW 43
Married 22+Years

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ElZorro ( member #69119) posted at 2:26 PM on Thursday, February 7th, 2019

I'm both a WS and BS.

My affairs were EA's with people online and "friends" that got too friendly in chatting. My wife's affair was an EA & PA.

From the BS perspective as a man I can say his ego took a blow and is damaged. What it sounds like to me is that he's looking for validation or inflating his ego/masculinity. He's struggling with his self-worthiness as a man/provider.

The blow to masculinity is something that guys will feel but rarely talk about, because being vulnerable is equated to being weak and we already feel weak because our partners went out behind our backs to get something they weren't getting from us, we feel (even if we pushed them away, became distant, or were abusive).

It seems that you both need to be more honest about what's going on deep inside and work through the root causes.

Him talking to other women on tinder is not acceptable, especially if you're looking for reconciliation. He wants his cake and eat it too, since you did. It's a revenge tactic and is toxic.

I'm praying for healing for you both and strength through this for the best outcome.

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numb&dumb ( member #28542) posted at 4:15 PM on Thursday, February 7th, 2019

With your BS being on the spectrum I think his very concrete thinking is driving him. When he is with he sees the benefits. When apart he sees the benefits to that too. It is 100% normal for him not to know what he wants right now. I am sure part of that is he doubts what you want too. Again normal at this stage. He won't trust you enough to take things you say at face value. Actions are something that he will see and not misinterpret. If he is an acts of service guy, try to fit as many of those in. Show him what his life could be like. Obviously he will have to make changes too, but right now be selfless and giving. Meet as many of his needs as you can. If he doesn't start doing his part to meet yours then you need to ask him and have a come jesus moment.

I do agree it is very hard to R when you are physically separated. So many non-verbal cues are lost when the communication is not in person.

[This message edited by numb&dumb at 11:27 AM, February 7th (Thursday)]

Dday 8/31/11. EA/PA. Lied to for 3 years.

Bring it, life. I am ready for you.

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HardenMyHeart ( member #15902) posted at 4:53 PM on Thursday, February 7th, 2019

I'm just wondering what's going on with his mind he seems so up and down,

You have been demoted from a wife to a friend with benefits. Your BH is now exploring other options to determine how desirable he is to other women. This will help him to restore the confidence in himself that the affair destroyed.

Your affair has shown your BH that he can be easily replaced. He is being driven by the severe emotional pain that only an affair can bring. This emotional pain can cause extreme swings in day to day thoughts and actions.

Me: BH, Her: WW, Married 40 years, Reconciled

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xhz700 ( member #44394) posted at 6:13 PM on Thursday, February 7th, 2019

You have been demoted from a wife to a friend with benefits. Your BH is now exploring other options to determine how desirable he is to other women. This will help him to restore the confidence in himself that the affair destroyed.

Your affair has shown your BH that he can be easily replaced. He is being driven by the severe emotional pain that only an affair can bring. This emotional pain can cause extreme swings in day to day thoughts and actions.

That's about the best summary I've seen.

Behold! The field in which I grow my fucks.

Lay thine eyes upon it, and thou shalt see that it is barren.

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thatcantbetrue ( member #59557) posted at 12:02 PM on Friday, February 8th, 2019

This reminds me of the situation of a friend of a very good friend. His situation looks a lot like your husband's.

Bottomline his wife cheated on him, they have two young children, he tells her and close friends that he is single, and that she needs to move out from the marital house. He is staying married, and he still demonstrates affection to his wife. I wouldn't know if they still have sex, but it just sounds obvious. He freely admits to pursuing casual encounters and has no intention to care if someone would rather he doesn't. He still invites her to public events and he doesn't advertise being single here.

When he explains himself more in-depth, that's how it goes: first, yes his wife is demoted to FWB as far as his emotions are concerned. If she wants to remove the benefits she's free to do that, he knows that's a possibility and he is fine with it.

He says he is single because he is not investing commitment to his wife, not romantically vulnerable to her, and there is nobody he is in a romantic relationship with. Which means he is free to meet up with whoever he wants for whatever he wants as long as the persons are okay with it.

He stays married, because the marriage contract is a helpful tool for them both to devote themselves as a team to their one common goal left: their children and living with them. Protected stable finances and mutual next of kin if necessary. (His wife is nonfunctioning without someone to save her finances. She doesn't acknowledge it but she's the only one. It could escalate to her being unable to be there for their children.)

He says he invites her to events as their daughters will need their mother being part of events in their lives. As for not advertizing there that he is single, he has no intention to pursue anything at such events, so it wouldn't serve that purpose. The only purpose it would serve then, is bringing drama to these events. People say they hate drama but we all know the truth and how morbid curiosity is what they would all be after. He estimates there is no reason to bring this to these events.

One key difference though, is that he never betrayed his wife before she betrayed him, nor did he have any interest in pursuing other people with or without permission. She would accuse him of having had an emotional affair with his,childhood best friend and interpret his acknowledgement that they had deep conversations as an admission of the affair. But there was no such thing. She is delusional on many fronts.

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tiredofcrying59 ( member #56180) posted at 5:49 AM on Monday, February 11th, 2019

Yep, as a former BS (D now), the person who said you'd been demoted is dead on. Infidelity is a huge mind fuck to us. You shit all over your former agreement, and now he feels no real obligation to fulfill his end of the contract.

If you're truly working on it, you may win him back. I worked my ass off for 18 months only to have my FWH finally tell me (as I was starting to heal and reconnect) that he really wanted out. He didn't think it would ever be the same so he was just done. That right there is the BS worst nightmare, that we give them a second chance and they string us along and then hurt us all over again.

And that possibility is there for all of us, and it's in the back of his mind no matter how much you claim to be sorry and want him back. Mine begged, said he would never give up, yada, yada yada. Words mean nothing. Sorry, but this is what you create. I wish you luck.

BW
Me-59
Him-57
M-33 yrs, not that I "celebrate" it
D-day-10/30/16 2mo.PA w/COW attempting R

new news- like a 5 year A w/COW, no longer attempting R. What am I, an idiot?

Getting on with life, without him.

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