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Mentioning the OW by name?

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trying to smile ( member #9683) posted at 3:53 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2009

After we decided to R I told my H (and mc) that I didn't want any of us to refer to her by name.

I don't call her bad names but I refuse to grant her the dignity of referring to her by name.

To me she is nothing.

I have a number of friends who have the same name as her and that used to make me trigger but not anymore.

She is nothing, she is nameless.

Good Women.
May we know them,
May we be them,
May we raise them.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"so when he finally showed his true colours they proved to be a startling shade of turd".

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not_a_martyr ( member #9518) posted at 6:19 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2009

My BH really gave me a hard time for not referring to either xMM by name. He said I was dehumanizing them and that in doing so, I was distancing myself from what I'd done. Honestly, I'd become physically ill saying or typing the names, but he was right. Avoiding the hard truths of my actions didn't help anyone heal or move on.

me: 40
him: 38
us: in R



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prettyfuture ( member #17293) posted at 4:37 AM on Tuesday, July 7th, 2009

I don't think my BF has ever called xOM by his name. I used to call him by his name when we were talking about the A, but if he brought him up, he would call him "your friend." Sometimes I wouldn't even know who he was referring to and I would give him a funny look and he would add, "your little friend from work" or "your work buddy" or something.

Now we rarely ever talk about him at all which is a good thing, he is in the past. But i used to wonder if maybe BF didn't know how to talk about it or was hoping it could be swept under the rug... so in my opinion, it seems healthy and good to call the OP by name, at least at a certain point or for a certain amount of time. I agree with your wife that that makes the OP a real person, the A a real event, your actions real and hurtful, and doesn't keep her a dirty "little secret" any more. (At least this is what I took your comments as meaning that your wife meant, and I think all of these reasons may be why you feel uncomfortable hearing OW's name). In my opinion it's good for your wife to call her whatever she wants, and it's good for you to expose the pain/discomfort so you can work on those areas.

Good luck.

Me: FWF (fiance), 28
I broke off engagement: May '07, then he found out about EA
I confessed PA: Oct. '07 and we started R.
In true R since Feb. '08
RE-ENGAGED: 10/08/09
Getting married in Oct. 2010 :)

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nostupidboys ( member #17144) posted at 7:51 AM on Thursday, July 16th, 2009

inappropriate post

[This message edited by Deeply Scared at 6:56 AM, July 16th (Thursday)]

Reconciled with lots of work and prayer.

"If I'm not the one thing you can't stand to lose..consider me gone."

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deserved..better ( member #24343) posted at 4:13 PM on Tuesday, August 4th, 2009

I refuse to grant her the dignity of referring to her by name.

To me she is nothing.

We refer to them as # 1 or #2 neither deserve better than that.

Me-BS - 45
Him -FWW - 48
OW#1/EA?-shadow dweller
OW#2/PA-trashy skank/serial cheat
OW#3/PAEA co-worker @ new job
kids - 14 & 16
Married 20 years
D-day Oct. 2006
D-day 9/24/2010
R - Ended 9/24/2010

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MissesJai ( member #24849) posted at 4:52 PM on Tuesday, August 4th, 2009

my BH never refers to xOM by name. he refers to him by his area code, 314, mainly. every once and a while he will call him "your boy" but the majority of the time, it's 314. in the beginning, he would call him Nelly, cuz he's from St. Louis and so is Nelly. we rarely talk about xOM anymore, which is good, at least i think it is. not sure if BH will ever refer to him by name - i doubt it - and fine by me :)

[This message edited by MissesJai at 10:53 AM, August 4th (Tuesday)]

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Happily divorcing..
My Life is Mine!!!!
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Don't settle for no fuck shit....

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mom2 ( member #15526) posted at 6:38 PM on Tuesday, August 4th, 2009

We do not use her name. When we need to refer to her, we both call her MOW.

We do not use her name because WHO the OW was is irrelvant. We focus on WHAT my H did, not WHO he did it with.

I am not a WS but I can sympathize. I have a friend with same name as MOW. Whenever I say my friend's name, my H looks as if he could vomit.

Just take your wife's cue and do what works best for her. You will eventually get used to it and one day there will be no need to mention her again.

It's not whether you get knocked down; it's whether you get up.

-Vince Lombardi

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onemoretry ( member #19698) posted at 7:35 PM on Tuesday, August 4th, 2009

BH very rarely ever mentions the xOP or his name. He will usually say something if we're fighting and then he just calls him "my boyfriend."

We are 14 months out and at this point I cannot utter that name. Just.can't. do.it. I usually say "that person."

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weepy ( member #8790) posted at 7:54 PM on Tuesday, August 4th, 2009

Funny, I was just recently thinking of asking H a question actually using her name instead of using "It" or "She" which is how I referred to her for a very long time.

Although I rarely think about her any more.

Dday: 9/12/05
M: 29 yrs( me anyway )
BS(me): 55 And I'm ok with that
FWS: 57- Multiple PAs, LTA 7? yrs.

Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. -- Yoda

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Myth08 ( member #20871) posted at 10:39 PM on Tuesday, August 4th, 2009

BS here. Hope it's okay to chime in. My time-frame is similar to yours. We are just a bit a year from d-day. Early on I always referred to her in some negative/derogatory term. However, lately, I've started using her name. As the distance from d-day has grown if I don't use her name, it's almost like he doesn't always immediately get who I'm referring to. Used to be if I'd trigger on something I could just say, "reminds me of her" or whatever, now the name makes things less confusing. Also, I completely get the 'power' thing your wife explained. OW is a 'title'...not a good one, but still a reminder that at some point there was an 'other'...not always a good thing to dwell on. Just my 2 cents.

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feelingdead ( member #23591) posted at 12:56 AM on Wednesday, August 5th, 2009

BS here. I refer to them as their names (two OW). They are real people and I want no doubt that they helped cause the pain. Plus, I won't honor them with my anger.

Funny to see Tex Circe's post. OW #2 (funny, found out recently she was really OW#1 but didn't realize the LTA was sooooooo long). She was H.S. gf NEVER mentioned. And if the kids and I joked about her (before I knew about EA) H would clam up. And to think I never suspected her! Mama always said "Beware of the quiet ones!"

Married 23 years
Three teenagers
Dday1 4/11/09 (two for one, one PA, one EA, two OW, then found out about three more plus MULTIPLE boundary issues)
Dday2 3/27/10 (two more!)
Dday 3 3/21/10 (one more PA)
Lies continued to come out until 2017. Now

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PiQue ( member #17575) posted at 2:09 AM on Wednesday, August 5th, 2009

It depends on the day and the discussion. WH started referring to her as Ohio, and I frequently follow suit. Unfortunately, she shares a name with one of my very respected co-workers, as well as one of my granddaughters. Makes avoiding her name a little difficult.

I didn't think about it making him uncomfortable when I talk about co-worker or GDD. Hmm. Well, can't be helped.

Now that I think about it, calling her Ohio, or OW is sort of like giving her a title, even if derogatory.

I'm glad I saw this thread. I think I will now remove her 'title' from my sign-off...

Me/BW 50+
Him/WH 60+ Long Distance LTA
NEVER ignore your gut.



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roller coaster ( new member #17250) posted at 2:58 AM on Wednesday, August 5th, 2009

I have always called the OW by name...she is a real person. She never called me by name...I was always "your wife" or the "f***ing b****". When I mentioned that to my WS he was surprised and it opened his eyes as to how I felt like a "thing", not a human being.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us...Ralph Waldo Emerson

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