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She's a child, yes.

Do I believe she had a hand in the murders of her mother and brother? No.

Do I believe that everything regarding this case has already come out? No.

I'm the mother of young adults as well. I wouldn't wish what happened to her on anyone. However, I find it really hard to believe that the people that have voice skepticism over the details are on the kidnapper's side or out of line for thinking that all ain't as it seems.

In life, things are RARELY "as it seems" and when teens are involved, I can guarantee there's stuff that isn't being told.

The predator is dead. So the details are only going to come from evidence left behind and the young girl.

So yeah....people are going to discuss it.

well people discuss a lot of things but that doesn't make it right.

Discussion, in and of itself, isn't inherently wrong either.

so we shouldn't discuss it at all?

Let me ask you all something. If that was your kid how would you feel if on public forums...Like this one...you read how after your kid was taken advantage of by a predator and was being publicly discussed as maybe being part o;f the problem as to why her family was killed. I think if people want to discuss it then discuss it but not on public forums where family and the kid can see it. Maybe not here but somewhere else. now if you want to put some goofy icon on me go ahead but that's the way I feel.

Gee...let's see...public forum...Off Topic category to boot.

I can see the confusion.

I WANT to believe she's not involved.

But just like a lot of these situations, once the onion is peeled they are rarely what is assumed at the beginning.

The news conference was on Monday when the police said it was their opinion she was a victim in every sense of the word. If I'm not mistaken, before the search warrant was executed (maybe not, so I stand to be corrected).

There is LOTS of uncovering to happen here. My point in posting the thread topic to begin with (and if anyone is upset with the topic, then I suggest they do like I do and don't post on it) was off the heals of several conversations I've had with people over the course of this week.

That's it - nothing more.

It wasn't to align blame at anyone. It was to merely point out some very interesting news in the story.

It is a high profile case, it is being discussed, and I have my opinions on what's been uncovered so far (and what may or may not have happened based on that).

I dont believe that just because there's a teenager involved we shouldn't talk about it.

I respect and admire a great many of the people on this site, but that doesn't mean I agree with everyone all the time.

well in that case, knock your selves out.

I'm not blaming her. I think there was something going on. I fully blame the guy. I thought from the very beginning that there was more to the story than just the guy flipping a switch, killing the mom/brother/dog, and kidnapping the girl. That she may have been participating on some level doesn't mean, in my mind, that she wasn't coerced or whatever. As a survivor of CSA and rape, I fully get how a child/woman gets to a point where they do what they have to do to survive. Doesn't mean I'm blaming her just because I have an opinion.

Furthermore, this is the kind of situation that I think merits public discourse. How do we protect our children from this kind of predator? Were there any signs? What kind of conversations do I need to have with my kids so they know that no adult relationship I may have should ever, in their mind, be protected over my own children's safety.

I think there is much to be gained from discussing this case. I have seen no one here blaming Hannah on this thread.

I can guarantee you this isn't the only public form where this case is being discussed - Off Topic on SI isn't the sole public forum on the web. Like Gaby said, it's high profile - it's going to be discussed.

if anyone is upset with the topic, then I suggest they do like I do and don't post on it

I can guarantee you this isn't the only public form where this case is being discussed - Off Topic on SI isn't the sole public forum on the web. Like Gaby said, it's high profile - it's going to be discussed.

And like I said...you want to be a part of that then knock yourself out. I promise not to post on here again. Have at it.

My understanding is that the internet postings were never confirmed to have actually been from her.

I hadn't even thought about that. Yet another thread in this story.

Also this gentleman had been part of her family all her life. He was an uncle figure. He interacted with both children as such. Calls, trips, letters would not be unusual in that case, necessarily.

I agree that letters and calls wouldn't necessarily be odd, but its going to depend a lot on the content of the letters.

"Hi Hannah! Congrats on your A in math" is a far cry from flirty or grooming content.

Here are where my red flags come up. Mom and dad are separated, dad moves across country not in with best friend which would have helped both of their financial situations and left Dad close to kids. Mom and kids continue relationship with best friend. DNA test kit found. I'm actually wondering if mom and dad's best friend were having an affair and that was behind the divorce and dad leaving the area.

As George Takai would say, "Oh myyyyyy..."

[This message edited by GabyBaby at 5:26 PM, August 16th (Friday)]

The details being released don’t surprise me. This is a 40 year old man and a 16 year old girl. Whatever relationship they had, consent doesn’t enter the equation.

Oh myyyyyy..."

Indeed...