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I should have put "earn" in quotes. What I mean is "hold it until you feel like giving it". If that doesn't come any time soon, donate or return it. A gift should be genuine like his work.

So u mean when the ps5 comes out ??

It wasn't five years ago for you.....

Stop trying to be so nice. It won't change the state of your marriage. Giving with an unhappy heart for the wrong reason is like poison. You should give out of the joy of giving, not to make him happy, to make the situation better, to make things look pretty.

You don't want to give it to him, you are pissed off and want to beat the shit out of him right now.

Own your feelings, feel them and sit with them. Don't cover them up with a Christmas present. You deserve to feel these things. I don't care if his A was last week, last year or the last decade. It's how you feel.

And it's ok....

[This message edited by karmahappens at 6:23 PM, December 24th (Tuesday)]

Sure, if that's the time you need.

You mentioned you had kids, why not have the PS4 be for them?

I am with the group of posters who say donate both of them to charity, someone needy...

He needs to count his blessings this season and all of the ones hereafter in the fact that you gave him the gift of R.. Even if R is only for the time being..It is okay if what your WH did was a deal breaker for you, you will address that when, or if the time comes..

There are no rules on how to decide whether to stay or go, you just follow your gut..

As a person before me stated, your WH will probably be thankful for what he has and that you didn't kick him out..

I am looking at D..In this process I will probably be giving up 1/2 of what I worked a lifetime for to WH..I am too old to recover much of what I lose..

I could deal with this fact, but what irks me the most is that my cheater of an H will also be stealing my future quality of life...

I am in an in house separation with my WH..

I understand what you are saying that it isn't in you to let Christmas go by without doing something for your WH...I was the same way in that I gave him a small useful gift and the celebration was very quiet...

Kids are tucked in bed sooo excited for Santa to come- we have put out all the presents and hubby has been in the garage for almost forty five minutes working on my gift.

I just realized I forgot stocking stuffers for his stocking and started crying he held me said he was sorry for the pain he has caused and doesn't expect anything this christmas he's just happy to be here with me and our children. I feel and hear the remorse and want to believe it but I've been lied to for 5 years.

Maybe his suggestion of no gift is best. I'm just not feeling it. Or maybe it's the egg nog talking- spiced rum in egg nog is awesome!

So I'm gonna drink egg nog and leave it at that!