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Gr8Lady ( member #36307) posted at 11:59 PM on Tuesday, January 28th, 2014
You confronted, now take the high road. Don't do anything that could be interpreted incorrectly.
Your WW, thinks YOU broke her trust.....what blame shifting !
Reconciliation is certainly possible, if both parties are committed to the work.
Wishing you well
BS: Me (70yo)FWH: HIM (72 yo)) serial infidelities over past 35 years
DD: Multiple unconfirmed until 2013
friends wife lasting 10 years. TT over a
year a year. Now his health is declining,
among the lack of communication.
Louisville1 (original poster new member #42130) posted at 12:47 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Lots to read and the support is nice. I'm not getting the support from her so it feels good to be validated. I've got a best friend I've kept in the dark and he knows something's up and has tried to get me out to talk. But it's embarrassing, painful and I just keep ducking him.
Got home this evening and after a talk with was basically me being made to be the problem I'm afraid it's not going to work out. She's using this to attack me.
She's laid the terms out that I'm not to go anywhere near her work or continue to keep tabs on her phone etc.
Been sitting here mindlessly. I look forward and can't imagine a point in the future where I'm still not tore up over this. She's said she's afraid I'll never get past this and She may be right.
I've been puppy dogging after her since two days after dDay.
I was planning the anniversary to make up for botching them in the past, but I'm pretty certain no matter what I do or don't do it won't change things. Her being held accountable for the affair is like many things in our lives. I'm still held accountable for every mistake I've made but she's never been held to that standard. I love her so much, and have put her on such a pedestal for over twenty years that when I look back I look like a putz. And now the biggest betrayal I could ever imagine I'm still doing it and end up being the ass.
Not doing it. Going to try like hell to walk away. If she wants me in her life she has to show me.
I've got a 13 yo daughter. Her big sister married and moved out of state last year. Her big brother moved out and is in college preparing to move to Toronto.
A divorce is going to further alienate her so she has to be my number 1 priority now.
Fucking just sucks. Sorry.
Thank you all for listening, reading and replying. I'm sorry you all know what I'm going through but I'm glad to get your support.
Brandon808 ( member #35619) posted at 12:53 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
She's laid the terms out that I'm not to go anywhere near her work or continue to keep tabs on her phone etc.
Red flag. Transparency is paramount.
Go ahead and see an attorney asap. Protect your rights and plan on D. Don't plan to move out or anything until after you talk to your lawyer.
Do the 180. Immediately. You need to detach for your own good.
Louisville1 (original poster new member #42130) posted at 12:56 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Reading the post I missed while typing and the pattern of behavior of WS's is uncanny similar.
Lots of you pointing out what I know, but can't bear to face.
Louisville1 (original poster new member #42130) posted at 12:59 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Can somebody post a link to 180 ?
I've looked but from my phone I may be missing it.
Thx
Toodevoted ( member #33149) posted at 1:10 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Sorry you're here, know too well the feeling of having to be accountable for every small mistake I make and every major fuck up he makes too.
Good luck with the 180
http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/faq_bs.asp#FAQ11
BS (me): 44
WH: 44
DD: Dec 2009 but let him rugsweep
Louisville1 (original poster new member #42130) posted at 1:20 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Wow regarding 180.
I'm doing the exact opposite...hence the obvious name of the behavior modification required.
Going to try my best, but may be too late.
Either way though I'll guess I'm better off.
Thank you for the link.
karmahappens ( member #35846) posted at 1:21 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Going to try my best, but may be too late.
It's never too late to make yourself stronger.
Detach.
“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom”
Anaïs Nin
Me: 45
Him: 47
Dday 8/2007
We have R'd
Brandon808 ( member #35619) posted at 1:32 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
The 180 is for you. It is never too late to start making your own healing the focus.
Toodevoted ( member #33149) posted at 1:51 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Going to try my best, but may be too late.
Either way though I'll guess I'm better off.
Never too late! I should have done it 4 years ago instead of rugsweeping, but started it a week ago and feel so much better about my future and my sanity for it
BS (me): 44
WH: 44
DD: Dec 2009 but let him rugsweep
cantgetup ( member #36146) posted at 2:01 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
I'm sorry. Your wife is still in the affair. You have to get that to end, then she needs to emotionally detach from the A and then she needs to get on the right track to help you heal and fix her broken little self. Your light years away from being on the other side of that, sadly. Is there a SO on his end? If so, that helps jump start the end of the A. Otherwise I agree, 180 is your best bet.
Chicky ( member #18622) posted at 3:18 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Be the man you were when you confronted the POS that screwed your wife!
PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN and DEMAND that you be treated with the respect you deserve.
If she can't get with the program, kick her ass out. If the roles were reversed, there would be tons of posts on this thread advising "change the locks, hefty bag his shit, and leave it on the porch/lawn/garage".
Been here almost 6 years and it never fails - that is the advice given when blatant cake eating and disrepect is displayed by a wayward husband.
[This message edited by Chicky at 9:18 PM, January 28th (Tuesday)]
Givers need to set limits because takers never do. THIS GIVER DID and because I stood my ground, we are happily RECONCILED!
Noturfan ( new member #41661) posted at 3:28 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
The A shit sandwich has the best of us thinking craziness. YOU didn't screw anything up. Again, SHE had the A. You have every right to behave as you did.
I'm confused. It's bad for a WS to break trust but that then gives the BS every right to break trust? That doesn't sound right.
In now way does a WS ever have the right to have the A, but how does double standards help achieve R?
I'm not criticising confronting the OM. Everyone deals with the fallout differently. I'm questioning the hypocritical mindset.
karmahappens ( member #35846) posted at 3:34 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Everyone deals with the fallout differently. I'm questioning the hypocritical mindset.
You are wondering why the BS is being hypocritical?
“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom”
Anaïs Nin
Me: 45
Him: 47
Dday 8/2007
We have R'd
Chicky ( member #18622) posted at 3:38 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
I don't see it as hypocritical.
I see it as consequences.
What's the saying - Every action has an equal and opposite reaction?
Spouse vowed to love, honor, cherish, and forsake all others. They broke that vow.
BS promised not to do anything. He broke a promise. No it wasn't "equal" but it wouldn't have been necessary had she behaved honorably.
Two wrongs don't make a right in any scenario but at least the scum that was confronted got to live and tell the tale.
Givers need to set limits because takers never do. THIS GIVER DID and because I stood my ground, we are happily RECONCILED!
Deeply Scared ( Administrator #2) posted at 3:38 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Noturfan...
You have a PM.
"Don't give up, the beginning is always the hardest." My Mom:)
My tolerance for stupid shit is getting less and less.
Noturfan ( new member #41661) posted at 3:46 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Thanks guys, sorry if my question seemed antagonistic. That wasn't my intention. Just trying to understand. Like I said, not criticising confronting the OM.
mchercheur ( member #37735) posted at 3:50 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
she or I would have been out of the house for suggesting that one damn thing between her and OM wasn't my business.
ditto. If she has any hope of R, you have a right to know everything. She ended your marriage by having the A. You are offering the gift of R---she has to earn it.
Unfortunately, I do know exactly how you feel.
And it went on for 5 months after Dday.
WH would not stop contact with OW until I went to a lawyer & made an appt. with a D mediator.
You really have to shock her out of the fog & show her crystal clear that you will not tolerate this treatment, & let her see what it will be like when you walk away.
You can't "nice" a wayward (who is still in the fog) back.
Forget the anniversary party---do you really feel like celebrating the day she took marriage vows to be faithful & loyal to you, forsaking all others. I am 2 yrs 8 mos out & I still don't feel like celebrating our wedding anniversary. Definitely cancel the party.
The only thing that will save your marriage now is if you walk away.
I would tell her to get out, today. Let her go find some other place to live, since she is not putting you first.
[This message edited by mchercheur at 9:52 PM, January 28th (Tuesday)]
Me: BW; Him: WH --Had 10 mo. EA/ PA with COW; Dday 5/2011 Married 35 years/Together 36 years/4 kids together, and 1 grandbaby; OW 20 years younger than us/divorced no kids Trying to R; don't know what the final outcome will be
karmahappens ( member #35846) posted at 4:17 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
Just trying to understand
You have a betrayed man who lied to his wayward wife to find out the name of the person she is having an affair with.
This information should be offered to him, he should not have to use tricks to get the truth from her. He deserves to know WHO has been having sex with his wife, IMO. No matter how he gets the information.
She has declared war. She is carrying on an affair, still foggy and lying to him about it. She then has the balls to toss the trust word around?
Please, she gets zero consideration while the BS is trying to put the pieces of his wife's affair together with no real help from her.Creating a timeline in between her lies. No remorse or true understanding of the bomb that has exploded in his life.
IMO she is lucky all he did was go check him out.
I would have tossed her ass on the curb.
[This message edited by karmahappens at 10:19 PM, January 28th (Tuesday)]
“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom”
Anaïs Nin
Me: 45
Him: 47
Dday 8/2007
We have R'd
NoMorDeceit ( member #23547) posted at 4:24 AM on Wednesday, January 29th, 2014
She's laid the terms out that I'm not to go anywhere near her work or continue to keep tabs on her phone etc.
or what?? She leaves??
Get an attorney. She needs a reality check. On what alternative universe does she gets to set the terms after she cheated. No remorse at all. No respect for you at all.
FBS
Many D Days in April 2009
Multiple affairs, LTAs, and many OWs
Reconciled for 8 years. Decided I deserved better than someone who had ever cheated on me. R failed 2/2017. Happy and free. :)
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