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Divorce/Separation :
Response to Email about Taking Infant DS

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 NewMom0220 (original poster member #39036) posted at 10:48 PM on Thursday, December 5th, 2013

Not granted. Not enough evidence. :(

Resisting the urge to call him. I know I can't. I want to talk to him and reason with him but know I can't. I know the guy I used to love is dead. I have to be in warrior mode now. But the old me who used to talk to him and rationalize things with him...I can't let her do it. Ultimately I do want him to be a good dad and have his time with DS, but he is the one playing all these games. It's sad.

Me: BS 37
Him: WS 37
20 month old DS
Married 5 years, together 8, DIVORCING!!! (taking forever)
DDay: 3/1/13 (4 Month PA while I was pregnant)
Sometimes all you have to do is forget what you feel and remember what you deserve.

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Nature_Girl ( member #32554) posted at 11:02 PM on Thursday, December 5th, 2013

NOT GRANTED????? WTF?????

Didn't your sister provide her testimony as well??? What???

Me = BS
Him = EX-d out (abusive troglodyte NPD SA)
3 tween-aged kids
Together 20 years
D-Day: Memorial Weekend 2011
2013 - DIVORCED!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJgjyDFfJuU

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caregiver9000 ( member #28622) posted at 2:11 AM on Friday, December 6th, 2013

Document the threats, all of them. Have your sister write out her experience.

Use these threats to cement your nerve this weekend. Be strong with your defense and caution. If he gets ugly or threatening in person, you can return to court.

Keep in touch with the abuse advocates. They will be able to help you with advice and what to document, how to state your experiences to get the ruling you need.

He is unstable. He has shown that.

Even though you appeared in court today and were denied, the paper trail of his behavior has begun.

Hang in there!!!!

Me: fortysomething, independent, happy,
XH "Stretch" (and Skew!) ;)
two kids, teens. Old enough I am truly NO CONTACT w/ NPD zebraduck
S 5/2010
D 12/2012

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betrayedfriend ( member #19785) posted at 2:39 AM on Friday, December 6th, 2013

I wonder if you can have an off duty cop there posing as a friend of the family as an impartial witness if he acts up, preferably someone big and physically intimidating.

I originally joined SI as a way to help my best friends find ways of coping with infidelity, but now infidelity has touched my family much closer to home.

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devistatedmom ( member #24961) posted at 3:00 AM on Friday, December 6th, 2013

I'm sorry they didn't grant it. Did they at least set a date for your temp hearing so this can be solved?

Stand tall this weekend. He doesn't leave the house with DS. I agree, see if your sister's partner or some colleague would come dressed as a civilian and just be a witness of any behaviour.

You can do this girl. I have faith in you.

BS(me) 46, Two wonderful teens.
He is no longer my best friend. Repeat until it sticks.

WH says marriage is over: May 15, 2009.
EA#2 July 20, 2009. Legally sep: Aug 16, 2009. DIVORCED!!!! Signed Nov 23, final Dec 24, 2010, adultery listed.

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Dreamboat ( member #10506) posted at 4:18 AM on Friday, December 6th, 2013

Ditto what everyone else said. And get a VAR! This guy is losing it and you need proof of his threats. Do not think of thie filing of the PO as a waste of time. Even though it was not granted, the court now has a record that you filed for it and so they also have a record of the evidence that you provided. Just keep accumulating that evidence.

And stay strong!!

(((hugs)))

And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back
So shake him off
-- Shake It Out, Florence And The Machine

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betrayedfriend ( member #19785) posted at 7:43 PM on Friday, December 6th, 2013

I sincerely hope he does not show up today and that you are able to stay safe! If he does show this weekend, please check in frequently so we know you're ok!

I originally joined SI as a way to help my best friends find ways of coping with infidelity, but now infidelity has touched my family much closer to home.

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nowiknow23 ( member #33226) posted at 7:54 PM on Friday, December 6th, 2013

And get a VAR! This guy is losing it and you need proof of his threats.

Agree 100%. And your family members may want to carry them, also.

(((((newmom))))) Stay strong, honey.

You can call me NIK

And never grow a wishbone, daughter, where your backbone ought to be.
― Sarah McMane

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ArkLaMiss ( member #14918) posted at 6:20 AM on Saturday, December 7th, 2013

Any updates?

Just HOW stupid do you think I am, exactly?

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Cally60 ( member #23437) posted at 8:57 AM on Saturday, December 7th, 2013

Aunti SIL, grandaddy, and grandma are coming. SIL was only free Friday and Saturday hence the change up. She could really use some DS time after losing [her dog]. We will probably pick him up Saturday around 10:00

So he's bringing an entire posse?

He apparently thought that would get him unsupervised visitation.

And he lost control and raged at your sister at work when you stood firm.

I'm with those who are very concerned, NewMom0220. I think that he may seriously have planned to take and keep your baby. :-(

A kidnap would be easier with his parents there to tend to the baby during the drive home. It is even possible that his parents and sister were in on the plan. (His superfluous explanation of his sister's reason for coming reinforces that suspicion.)

I'm really sorry that you weren't granted the Order of Protection. I think that Nature_Girl's suggestion of blocking in his family's vehicle(s) was excellent. I really think you should do it, if your husband does indeed stick to the visitation plan this weekend.

I'll be thinking of you. {{NewMom}}

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betrayedfriend ( member #19785) posted at 9:32 PM on Saturday, December 7th, 2013

Thinking of you and hoping you your son and family members are safe! Please know I am praying for your protection. Please update us when you can.

I originally joined SI as a way to help my best friends find ways of coping with infidelity, but now infidelity has touched my family much closer to home.

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Skan ( member #35812) posted at 1:31 AM on Sunday, December 8th, 2013

Hoping for the best for you tonight. (((hugs)))

Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.

D-Day, June 10, 2012


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caregiver9000 ( member #28622) posted at 2:04 AM on Sunday, December 8th, 2013

Me, too! ^^

Hoping you can check in soon!

Me: fortysomething, independent, happy,
XH "Stretch" (and Skew!) ;)
two kids, teens. Old enough I am truly NO CONTACT w/ NPD zebraduck
S 5/2010
D 12/2012

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anewday78 ( member #39357) posted at 6:18 AM on Sunday, December 8th, 2013

After this weekend, tell him he is not welcome to see his son until visitation orders are put in place. Tell him that after the stunt he pulled this past weekend, you're over dealing with his ridiculous bullshit. If he doesn't like it, then he should light a fire under his attorney's ass to get the ball rolling with negotiations. No further discussions about it until a judge decides. Period.

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ArkLaMiss ( member #14918) posted at 6:28 AM on Sunday, December 8th, 2013

I'm worried things didn't go well. Anybody heard from her?

Just HOW stupid do you think I am, exactly?

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tesla ( member #34697) posted at 1:28 PM on Sunday, December 8th, 2013

Thinking about you and hoping things went ok.

"Thou art the son and heir of a mongrel bitch." --King Lear

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ruby44 ( member #41135) posted at 6:13 PM on Sunday, December 8th, 2013

Ok I am officially worried. I think there needs to be a way to reach out to someone who we are worried about. Especially since she has not logged on since Thursday! Praying she and DS are ok.

Me BW 52, Him WH 48
Married 13 years,
2 DDs (12 and 10)
D-Day Confirmed 10/24/13 suspected before that but did not want to believe it.
WH filed for D 11/12/13
2/8/14 WH asked if he could come home.

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Nature_Girl ( member #32554) posted at 6:37 PM on Sunday, December 8th, 2013

I'm also concerned. I'm hoping she's just been too busy & exhausted to update us.

Me = BS
Him = EX-d out (abusive troglodyte NPD SA)
3 tween-aged kids
Together 20 years
D-Day: Memorial Weekend 2011
2013 - DIVORCED!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJgjyDFfJuU

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LeopoldB ( member #40606) posted at 7:15 PM on Sunday, December 8th, 2013

Bumping with prayers and good wishes.

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devistatedmom ( member #24961) posted at 9:30 PM on Sunday, December 8th, 2013

Let us know you are ok when you have a change NewMom. I know there is probably so much going on, and you are trying to process it all, but when you are up to it, just send us a quick note so we know you are ok. Details can wait.

((hugs))

BS(me) 46, Two wonderful teens.
He is no longer my best friend. Repeat until it sticks.

WH says marriage is over: May 15, 2009.
EA#2 July 20, 2009. Legally sep: Aug 16, 2009. DIVORCED!!!! Signed Nov 23, final Dec 24, 2010, adultery listed.

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