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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 9:06 PM on Saturday, January 25th, 2020

What did I ever see in this woman?

Must have been rose colored specs.

I have to pay 80% of all school costs, including uniforms.

I asked her to sent me all her expenditures prior to starting school next week.

I sent her an excel table ( love those ) of her expenditures and my costs and included the 80/20 split.

I owed her a small amount.

She doesn't understand it and wanted to send me money.

As long as her swiping finger works, life will be ok for her

[This message edited by Atg100 at 9:52 PM, January 25th (Saturday)]

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AFL1000 ( member #66483) posted at 11:25 PM on Saturday, January 25th, 2020

ATG

As with the computer software issue recently that your ex sought your help with, this is her still playing games to keep you entangled in her life. "Oh I'm sorry ATG I misunderstood."

I find it hard to believe that your ex being a theatre nurse she cannot read, interpret and act on a simple spreadsheet! Also for that nursing role there is a significant degree of organisational skill required to set up the day's surgeries so her constant need to find trivial things for you to deal with I can only infer is her need to keep you on a very long leash.

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 1:24 AM on Sunday, January 26th, 2020

She went a little further in her next email, and referred to things of the past and which I have apparently done wrong when we were married.

She mixed it in with issues related to the children and finances.

I went back to my favourite line with her :

Please put your expectations into the written co-parenting plan, as suggested by Relationships Australia.

Of course she won’t , but at least it’s silence for now.

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AFL1000 ( member #66483) posted at 3:23 AM on Sunday, January 26th, 2020

So your ex is still quoting from the Cheater's 101 manual that the marriage failed because of things you did wrong.

Makes a mockery of her 16 January 'truly, truly sorry...' email doesn't it.

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 3:49 AM on Sunday, January 26th, 2020

Yes, she again also brought in : I have now found my voice to argue my point against you.

She can use that lovely voice for whoever is prepared to listen.

I am not.

But if her desire to express herself, could lead to her writing down some expectations...

Or use the co-parenting plan.

Good news is - we have now started week long period with the kids, so I only have to see her once a week, not twice like last year

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 8:38 PM on Saturday, February 1st, 2020

My son is doing it very hard at the moment.

He cries a lot, has very unspecific tummy pain and missed a day of school last week. he told me that he is sad, that he hasn't got a family anymore.

I have booked him in to see a psychologist but also a gastroenterologist, just in case I overlook a real organic cause, and put it all in the psychosomatic corner, whilst he has something real going on. We have just been to Bali, who knows if he picked up a parasite of some sort.

I think the main remedy is to tell him that I love him, even when he is at his mum's.

And otherwise make life as normal as possible for the kids.

And things are much easier for me, since I accepted the past. She wants to take the kids to school on Monday, she won't work on that day. It's officially my day and in the past there would have been a power struggle about who takes the kids. Now I just shrug my shoulders and let her go ahead.

Just one little example of her narcissism, which in the past would have annoyed me: She received the payout from our settlement. When picking up my kids the other day, she told me that she was about to go and look at property to buy. And that she decided to continue to work only 3 days a week.

"To find herself"

Have a guess who is paying for her new property and for this great lifestyle of a short work week. Of course, every time I see her, she has a new dress, her hair is beautifully done and just now she has new glasses.

All I could think was:

"I am so glad, I don't have to deal with that shit anymore".

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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 8:43 PM on Saturday, February 1st, 2020

It won’t happen overnight but if you effectively ignore her and cutoff the ego kibbles she’ll go away for the most part but it’ll probably take a year or so.

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 4:25 AM on Sunday, February 2nd, 2020

I don't think I gave her any kibbles.

I say "hello" and "goodbye"when I am at her house, but that is pretty much it.

I didn't refer to any of her nonsense.

A friend warned me - my ex is quite naive when it comes to finances. Whilst she now has a sizeable amount of money, she can't buy a house right away.

She would have to pick up a mortgage, like the rest of us. And her lending capacity would only be based on the cash I gave her. But a nurse who only works 3 days a week, will not get a lot of money.

So she will figure out, that she actually doesn't have much cash - and her first port of call wont be to increase her work hours, but to complain to me that she didn't get enough money - or even , return to court. Here in Australia, you can return to court for up to one year to review the financials.

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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 4:32 AM on Sunday, February 2nd, 2020

That sucks

Good luck on the countdown

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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 4:33 AM on Sunday, February 2nd, 2020

Maybe you’ll get lucky and she’ll remarry.

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 7:44 AM on Sunday, February 2nd, 2020

The danger here is that she finds someone clued up about the system who encourages her to sue me.

Otherwise I’d be grateful to that bloke - he can filter out some of the nonsense.

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 12:14 PM on Sunday, February 9th, 2020

Just checking in.

I’m doing very well- my ex just can’t get to me at the moment.

I had to talk to her taking our so for a one on one lunch- and she made a huge deal out of it, just because she is who she is.

She so obviously wanted to wind me up and I just smiled and waved .

When she brought my son back , she asked me to sign some documents - she pre filled it but wrote my date of birth incorrectly .That’s after a 13 year relationship . I just pointed out the error but didn’t comment .

In good news - things have developed very nicely with the woman I have seen for a coffee twice now . I’m in no rush , but there is a very positive vibe which puts a smile on my face .

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steadychevy ( member #42608) posted at 12:31 PM on Sunday, February 9th, 2020

Thanks for the update, Atg. Good idea to take it slow. Enjoy "normal".

BH(me)72(now); XWW 64; M 42 yrsDDay1-01/09/13;DDay2-26/10/13;DDay3-19/12/13;DDay4-21/01/14LTA-09/02-06/06? OM - COW 4 years; "dates" w/3 lovers post engagement;ONS w/stranger post commitment, lies, lies, liesSeparated 23/09/2017; D 16/03/2020

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NoOptTo ( member #62958) posted at 1:20 PM on Sunday, February 9th, 2020

Glad to hear from you ATG. Good responses to your EX. Don't give her any fuel to use against you. And I'm glad your finding pleasure in someone else's company. The future is brightening for you. I agree, take it slow. Let it grow...

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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 3:20 PM on Sunday, February 9th, 2020

she asked me to sign some documents - she pre filled it but wrote my date of birth incorrectly .That’s after a 13 year relationship

Well it is all about her and nothing else matters much.

Did she spell your name correctly.

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 9:32 PM on Sunday, February 9th, 2020

That's a good one. I wouldn't be surprised if she forgets my name.

She must have noticed that I am not angry anymore.

It's just so exhausting.

And handover we have talked strictly about the kids only.I keep it very brief.She must however think, that I want to be her friend and so at handover this morning, she asked me if I could look after the children next Sunday, whilst she is doing a trail run.

I am always happy to look after them if work and on-call commitments require a change from our roster. But I am not her babysitter.

I just said that I will be busy. It's just so predictable. Whenever I have given her the slightest inch, she always checks where the limits are.

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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 5:12 AM on Monday, February 10th, 2020

You’ve got this now. All you have to do is maintain it.

However, when she finds you dating, seeing someone it’ll probably panic her.

Just be prepared because right now she thinks she’s irreplaceable.

Never divulge anything to her about your personal life.

She will ask. Bank on that.

Just say sorry “that’s personal” then leave. The key is LEAVE

Have fun with it. Stock up on popcorn

[This message edited by Marz at 11:13 PM, February 9th (Sunday)]

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paboy ( member #59482) posted at 7:06 PM on Monday, February 10th, 2020

The weeks to divorce is now in single digits.

Your relationship with your recent 'friend', looks promising.

Your wearing a smile more regularly.

The children feel your love and care every day.

😇😇😇😇😇☺☺☺☺☺👍👍 ;👍👍👍

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 7:57 PM on Monday, February 10th, 2020

My son's sadness is the only problem in all that.

He often complains about tummy pain - I had him checked out by a pediatric gastroenterologist who thinks that there is no organic cause.

He is booked to see a child psychologist next week.

In the meantime, I treat him with love , but it is not straightforward.

Whenever he is with friends, playing, he is absolutely pain fee. Now, kids may also ignore pain when they are with friends, but his behavior is too inconsistent to suggest that it is really an organic pain. I was really unsure, that's why I saw a recommended specialist and he did a few tests as well.

My ex tries the best she can, but that is of course limited, as you have to have empathy for other people's pain.

She wrote last week "maybe he has to harden up?"

That would be nice. He hardens up and she doesn't have to deal with this.

Apart from that, life is very good at the moment.

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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 8:29 PM on Monday, February 10th, 2020

She wrote last week "maybe he has to harden up?"

Unfortunately life is changed forever.

I suspect he will adjust. It’s just hard upfront.

I’ve seen this with young kids. It’s not like switching a light switch. It’s anxiety and change.

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