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I love watching Dr. Phil. It makes me realize that my life is not THAT screwed up.

I saw the promo for the new season for the Dr. Phil house with the Real Housewives and one of them says that. I understand it's just a promo.

But OW wrote something similar to me when Noclue confessed. She wrote : I am just this wild thing that every married man dream about.

Why would a woman say/write those things? What do they gain? I don't get it.

I don't know juliette, I don't know

Just my opinion, but I think they like to portray themselves as uninhibited and free. No expectations, no strings, free spirit types. It's all a crock of bullshit, of course. After some time lapses, they start making demands and putting pressure on MM to shit or get off the fence. I remember my husband telling me that the slut he had a relationship with would tell him that her kids had been through two divorces and survived it just fine, so his would certainly survive one. Not true, her kids were totally fucked up, but with her for a mother, I can't really blame them. They were at a disadvantage from the git go.

I am just this wild thing that every married man dream about.

Uh-huh. Sure. Conceited, much?

What are these people thinking?!

If you're empty inside and don't have much going for you, acting out sexually can get you a lot of attention and make you feel worthwhile in some twisted way, I guess.

I would think that a woman who would say that is an amoral, lying skank. That type of person might have somewhat of an allure to a stupid man, but certainly she will have demands at some point in time. They all do.

Oh she did have demands. I think that even before the fuckfest started, she was alluding to his salary and her lack of funds. When he confessed, she was also not a happy camper.

It must be some low self esteem to find boost yourself up by thinking that you can get a married guy.

Because they define themself based on their desireability to men. That's a fleeting and pathetic sense of self and it will disappear sooner rather than later. I have never seen Real Housewives, but I have seen the promo. Those ladies are so fake-tanned and nipped/tucked... they know that it's failing.

It's a rather sad existence when a woman defines herself solely based on her desirability to men - what happens when she gets 'old,' if she has an accident, or there's a better looking girl around. Worse yet, what if she's alone with herself without a man around?

Sad and pathetic - setting the women's movement back 500 years.

you will never understand that king of mind, so don't even give it headspace.

one 23 yr old ow of my wh, told him that when she was 17 she noticed her sd checking her out in a nightshirt w/o undies and asked if he 'liked what he saw'. then they started having oral sex. a couple weeks later her mom walks in on then then a few days later asks her to move in with her grandmother.

this ow claims her mom was upset because she obviously gives better head than her mom.

yuk. who compares stuff like that with their moms! the girl then moved in with her sister and started doing the sister's husband because she was preferred over her sister too!

just yuk!

I am just this wild thing that every married man dream about.

whore-translation -

I can't manage a healthy relationship with a single man that will put up with my psycho bitch ass. I use my sexuality in gross and degrading ways to attract temporary attention.

xOW said something very similar to me on many occasions.

They're sick delusional little puppies.

She wrote : I am just this wild thing that every married man dream about.

I have a lot of nightmares. Maybe she's one of those fish people from Shadow over Innsmouth.

It's a sick form of ego trip, juliette, and believe it or not, there are families in which the sexual desirability of the children is something that's openly promoted - total idiocy, for sure, but if a person is brought up that way, this is a way for them to validate their own value and they probably genuinely feel that it makes them "special"

To the BS such statements are obviously crushing but to a casual observer it's actually funny - the useless twit is basically claiming credit for the fact that biology works. Yes, men do have hormones that affect their behavior and if you stand on a corner and advertise the fact that you have a hole between your legs, some of those men (the "lesser" ones - M but with no sense of loyalty or commitment, for example), will go for the easy kill. If that's the highest accomplishment in one's life and definite proof of her specialness, all you can say is "have at it...sure beats something boring like getting an education or raising a family"

I am just this wild thing that every married man dream about.

What she meant to say was

I'm just this used up old hole in the wall, that every man would like to take a poke at then kick me to the curb without ever taking me home to meet his momma.

I am just this wild thing that every married man dream about.

translation

I am a slut that no decent guy will take home to meet his Mom.

The OW in my WH case stated in emails that she continues to get involved in these situations with married men, "if their marriages are so great then, why do they need me."

My feeling right now is that he didn't "need" her, he "used" her.

In one of her more recent emails, she apologized to him for pressing him about details of our marriage. I don't know what she was asking but I have a pretty good idea she was sizing him up for whether or not he would be willing to D.

I'm sure she is feeling some pain now and I am glad. She needs massive therapy.

To me, this means that she believes she can successfully maintain a wild, uninhibited, sexual dynamo type persona for the limited amount of time necessary to give some guy she's having an affair with the impression that she's a wild, uninhibited sexual dynamo. She has probably learned everything she knows about female sexual response from pornography and is merely mimicking what she sees there. Men, who are often also in the unfortunate position of having learned everything they know about female sexual response from pornography, are easily convinced that her response is authentic since she's acting like a porn star, and that the actual authentic response of their wives and girlfriends is somehow lacking. Baudrillard called this the "hyperreal."

In reality, it means that she either hates sex or is ambivalent about it, and is only interested in it insofar as it gains attention from men. This shit would dry up with a quickness should any man actually decide to enter into a relationship with her.

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 4:49 AM, September 8th (Wednesday)]

I find a statement like that the epitomy of low self-esteem. If she is all that and a bag of chips, she wouldn't need to be trolling married men.

Translation: I'm a whore and men know I'm a whore.

Rough translation: "I am just the whore who has too little self-respect to expect a true, loving relationship."

(Of course, as I type that, I think, "Hm. Self-respect. True, loving relationship. I've been married 24 years and don't know anything about either of those things..." So take my opinion with a block of salt!)