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Marriage in trouble 3 years after my A

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ozzie111smith ( member #13635) posted at 4:15 AM on Monday, October 11th, 2010

WS Only

[This message edited by Deeply Scared at 6:42 AM, October 11th (Monday)]

"All that poetry and all those songs about something that lasts no time at all."
Best movie line from 2009 (An Education)

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not_regular_name ( member #27577) posted at 3:32 PM on Monday, October 11th, 2010

Some observations:

One thing that strikes me is the focus on what you did with your AP vs. what you did/will do with your husband. You are VERY clear that some of the things you did with the OM you view as disgusting, immoral, and transgressive, and that you don't want to do them again. And that is entirely your right. But this leads directly to the question "If these activities were so vile, WHY did you do them?" Was there force involved? Blackmail? You must be able to answer this question - not necessarily here, but definitely to yourself and your BH. I have the suspicion this is the root of his fixation - he already knows the what, but he needs to know the *why*.

Second, the monetary situation. You say you have 2 incomes, and you also state that he controls and/or is hiding all of the money. If so, how does he have access to your income? You seem to be uneasy about what he's doing with the money, but you don't seem to be taking positive steps, such as depositing your money in a different account.

Third, what is your source for what he can and cannot do vis a vis divorce and custody? Has a lawyer told you that he will get full custody? A friend? Has your BH claimed/threatened this? Or are you just assuming it?

From your description of the situation and the way you write about it, I would hazard a guess that your relationship with the OM was basically a submissive one, both sexually and otherwise. And your relationship with your BH also tends to be submissive, but you don't want it to be. You believe that if you just do what he asks, he should be satisfied. And since he's obviously not satisfied, he's not holding up his end of the relationship. But you value the relationship and don't want it to end (at least not on his terms) and feel trapped.

You are trapped, but it is one of your making, and it's a trap of false assumptions. First, you CANNOT "fix" the marriage, at least in the sense you imply. There is no making up for what you did - it's a hole that cannot be refilled, a debt that can never be repaid. So stop focusing on counting the transactions and wondering when the payments will be over. Instead, focus on:

a) understanding why you did what you did, and working on those parts of you that need strengthening

b) understanding the stresses in your marriage, both post AND pre DDay, and work on your end of those, and

c) accept that he can choose to walk away, and so can you. The choices may all be bad, but they are still choices.

This last one is probably the hardest, because the ability to choose requires you be responsible for the consequences. It sounds like you've been letting others choose for you (which is still a choice, btw). And you've seen where that's gotten you.

FWS - Me, 41
BS - Her, 43
Dday - Thanksgiving Eve, 2009
D15, S10
In R, and dealing with preexisting mental health and marriage issues. This effin' blows.

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Maia ( member #8268) posted at 7:30 AM on Tuesday, October 12th, 2010

Trust, respect, compassion, mercy, honesty.

If you agree to do something sexually you do not wish to do, you are being dishonest. You are lying with your body. You are allowing yourself to be cheapened and bullied and not fostering respect or trust.

"Honey, I didn't want to do those those things in the A. I don't want to do them now. I don't want to be reminded of the A anymore because it was awful. I do not want to replay it. I also do not want you to re-enact it."

tell the truth.

"I feel controlled and it scares me. We can't rebuild like this. I want to rebuild and reassure you..help you to never be afraid again, can we work together towards that? I don't want to be the person I've been."

tell the truth even when your voice is shaking and it means a fight, means a horrible showdown. if your motive is peace, you might have to fight for it.

tell the truth.

the truth might also be... I miss you. I don't know how to reconnect. do you want to try?

invite it. invite it daily by being vulnerable and open. Even if it hurts. But be honest. that might mean you have to tell him no. This doesn't mean a blank check, you shouldn't be a doormat, that isn't love.

tell him the things you said to us.

trickle truth comes in different forms. your hiding is not honest.

are you being honest and authentic with yourself? do you want him? or are you just afraid of him? does he know it?

trust, respect, compassion. mercy. honesty. do yo know what they look like? sometimes we don't fight with people because we don't trust them enough to. Giving in isn't love. It's avoidance.

it's okay if you don't. but it's time to learn what they look like.

you have the markers of past abuse. might need to address that.

peace.

[This message edited by Maia at 1:48 AM, October 12th (Tuesday)]

The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.Psalms 34:18

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Maia ( member #8268) posted at 7:31 AM on Tuesday, October 12th, 2010

ps, when the bullying begins, the magic words to snuff it and begin to turn it to something helpful are these words. Use them.

"What is your goal here?"

The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.Psalms 34:18

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