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 Where did I go (original poster member #29002) posted at 10:45 PM on Monday, November 1st, 2010

Maintaining NC

I've maintained NC for 6 months and my marriage is doing really well!  I wanted to share an exercise I use to do when I triggered and/or found myself pining for my AP.  I would allow myself to play out the scenario....

I break NC.

The A starts again.

We get caught again.

I get divorced.

EVERYONE knows my darkest secret.

My children know my secret.

My children come from divorced parents.

My children visit my fun but crazy in-laws without me.

My husband is not around to do ALL of the rituals and family traditions we created.

My AP gets divorced.

For the sake of arguement - we get married.

My kids hate him!

His kids hate me!

I have to deal w his x-wife forever (kids, grandkids...)!

Perhaps my husband remarries.

My kids have another 'mother-figure' in their life.

Weddings - separate divorced parents tables.

Split holiday

Grandchildren - split visitation

Not having family traditions from my children's childhoods to share (not the same).......

There's just NO WAY to make this a desirable scenario!  I'm so thankful for the beautiful gift of forgiveness I have been given!


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 Where did I go (original poster member #29002) posted at 11:34 PM on Monday, November 1st, 2010

Just to be clear - these are NOT the reasons I stayed with my husband. I stayed because I LOVE him and WANT to be with him.

This is just something that helped me out of my fog. I believe that the fog is a defense mechanism. As long as my A was about true love and fairy tales I was a good person. I didn't have to take the real hard look into what I was destroying.


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Razor ( member #16345) posted at 11:41 PM on Monday, November 1st, 2010

Under standing consequences is a very good thing. Learning to consider consequences BEFORE taking action is a even better thing.

Forgive and forget = Relive and regret.

Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man.
Friedrich Nietzsche

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 Where did I go (original poster member #29002) posted at 11:47 PM on Monday, November 1st, 2010

With tremendous regret and remorse, I learned that the hard way!


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WalkinOnEggshelz ( member #29447) posted at 12:12 AM on Tuesday, November 2nd, 2010

Funny you should bring this up because BH texted me just last week thinking of reasons that i might "justify" breaking NC such as getting closure. This was my reply:

First of all I would NEVER break NC because i love you and I don't want to do something foolish for you to ever doubt that love again. Second, I am realizing that I don't need closure. I don't love him and never really did. You could divorce me tomorrow and I am still not calling him. I deserve better than that! Third, i don't need the consequence of a messy divorce to keep me from contacting him. That isn't what is stopping me. What stops me is knowing that NC is the right thing to do. Loving you is the natural thing to do.

Although I have to admit there was a time that the consequence of a messy divorce was very motivating! I am glad that's not the reason now.

If you keep asking people to give you the benefit of the doubt, they will eventually start to doubt your benefit.

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 Where did I go (original poster member #29002) posted at 12:23 AM on Tuesday, November 2nd, 2010

Ditto! I'm so happy to be out of the crazy and feel normal (lol whatever that is)!


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augustseptember ( member #29904) posted at 3:00 AM on Wednesday, November 3rd, 2010

Where did I go

I LOVE YOUR POSTS!!! For some reason (Thank God), you can always put my Hs perspective into a WOMAN'S POV!!! You may never realize how much my H appreciates your help, so I'll tell you for him!!!

Me: BW 38
Him: WH 39 (NC_FOOL)
D16 S14 S13
M17 DD9-7-10
Better to be an old maid, than just made..........

For I will be merciful and gracious toward their sins and I will remember their deeds of unrighteousness no more.
Hebrews 8:12

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 Where did I go (original poster member #29002) posted at 3:17 AM on Wednesday, November 3rd, 2010

Thanks A!

I glad your moving in the right direction. Even if it's baby steps...forward motion is forward motion!


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facethemusic ( member #29537) posted at 9:44 AM on Wednesday, November 3rd, 2010

Although breaking NC has not even been a temptation of mine, when I choose to remind myself of the consequences I need only to imagine my H marrying another woman :(

That and the look in my son's eyes when I had to tell him we would be getting a D (on D-day)- I saw his pupils shrink immediately. Makes me sick just thinking about it.

BS (him)42
WS (me) 41
Kids: 10,12,14
Married: 15 years
Involved: 10 years extra

D-Day 1: November 2007 (2 month PA)
D-Day 2: January 2010 (7 month internet addiction)

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NC_FOOL ( new member #29863) posted at 3:40 PM on Wednesday, November 3rd, 2010

AugustSeptember is my wife and yes....thank you very much. Your posts have helped her understand my affair and what i was thinking at the time and now. If you ever visit North Carolina we owe you lunch.

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 Where did I go (original poster member #29002) posted at 4:09 PM on Wednesday, November 3rd, 2010

Fool (I had to call you that!) ~ Your wife is a wonderful person! We are both very blessed to have married such loving people!

I'm glad that my story has helped your marriage! I am however a little scared that there is another person out there that's as crazy as I am! LOL - lunch would be wonderful!

Many blessings to you and AS!


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UnexpectedSong ( member #21761) posted at 5:35 PM on Wednesday, November 3rd, 2010

Where - That's a good technique. My therapist calls it "play it to the end". I wanted to stop in the middle, but he said you have to get to the end of the scenario!

WW(SA)
"Feedback is the breakfast of champions." - Boris Becker

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Lost68 ( member #27515) posted at 5:02 AM on Wednesday, November 17th, 2010

Bump

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Crossbow ( member #15224) posted at 6:33 AM on Wednesday, November 17th, 2010

Although breaking NC has not even been a temptation of mine, when I choose to remind myself of the consequences I need only to imagine my H marrying another woman :(

Face, wow, thanks for posting this. It had never crossed my mind that a WS might feel that way. I just read that to my FWW, and she absolutely cringed. She said, "OMG that would be awful, horrible."

It had just never occured to me.

DDay 7/4/07 found out about online/sexting EA with OM
DDay 7/25/07 found out about OW
In R

2 DSs, ages 11 & 9
DD, 4

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sosorry75 ( new member #30131) posted at 8:16 AM on Wednesday, November 17th, 2010

I think it's awesome the way you played it all the way through. I wish I had thought about all of these things BEFORE I had my A. I am new here but from what I am reading so far I am glad to find some support, and not judgement. When D day came it was surreal and all I could think was "what have I done to my family?" "How would my children handle a divorce?" Lucky for me it doesn't look like that is where we are headed at this point. I am very, very lucky.

working hard every day towards forgiveness:-)

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facethemusic ( member #29537) posted at 9:22 AM on Wednesday, November 17th, 2010

Crossbow, it really is true in many cases that a WS loses track of reality when living deceitfully and unfaithfully. I never stopped loving my H, but became very good at rationalizing my obscene behaviour. The thought of my H leaving me never entered my mind because he was never supposed to find out. I had even convinced myself at a certain point that I was actually a better wife because of it. It horrifies me to think about how twisted up my mind became.

Nothing clears the Fog like coming clean and staring down the barrel at consequences (hence the name), particularly D.

They say it's men who are best at compartmentalization, but I disagree.

I am almost obsessive now about NC, and define most interactions with men that were previously acceptable as breaking NC. I consider all men potential risks and am almost paranoid of going over the line.

[This message edited by facethemusic at 3:25 AM, November 17th (Wednesday)]

BS (him)42
WS (me) 41
Kids: 10,12,14
Married: 15 years
Involved: 10 years extra

D-Day 1: November 2007 (2 month PA)
D-Day 2: January 2010 (7 month internet addiction)

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betrayedandnumb ( member #24903) posted at 11:55 AM on Wednesday, November 17th, 2010

Wow. I think this should be required reading for WSs, or those thinking of making that step. Very powerful. Thanks.

BW- me
FWH-him
3/28/09 The day he started skiing down the slippery slope
4/26/09 The day it turned PA
Dday #1 7/13/09, #2 7/16/09, #3 10/23/09, Major setback- 8/13/10
In R

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Crossbow ( member #15224) posted at 3:37 PM on Wednesday, November 17th, 2010

Face, my FWW also never imagined divorce because I, too, was never supposed to find out. She says she loved me throughout that time and never had any thought of leaving me. When I met her at the door with a packed suitcase and told her I wanted a D, she was literally in shock.

She, too, has been very vigilant about NC, even avoiding former friends who are having As or think they are okay. She wants to avoid even the appearance of impropiety.

I'm so impressed with the work that she - and all of our FORMER Waywards - have done on themselves and their marriages. Truly impressed.

DDay 7/4/07 found out about online/sexting EA with OM
DDay 7/25/07 found out about OW
In R

2 DSs, ages 11 & 9
DD, 4

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facethemusic ( member #29537) posted at 4:02 PM on Wednesday, November 17th, 2010

Thanks Crossbow, it really means a lot to me to have my efforts recognized.

I think it's great that your W is avoiding supporters of infidelity... none of them can ever be considered friends of the marriage. It really astonishes me even now to think back to how many people supported me during my infidelity and how a few people who know about me now defend my behaviour (even though I do not). This makes rationalization SO much easier!

BS (him)42
WS (me) 41
Kids: 10,12,14
Married: 15 years
Involved: 10 years extra

D-Day 1: November 2007 (2 month PA)
D-Day 2: January 2010 (7 month internet addiction)

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Lost68 ( member #27515) posted at 6:30 PM on Sunday, January 2nd, 2011

Bump

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