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READ THE "NAUTI" BOOKS BY LORA LEIGH

NA's upthread rec of Thea Harrison's Elder Races series (first is Dragon Bound) is fucking AWESOME.

The heroes are like Barrons with the added ability to admit when they're wrong and apologize. I know! Flawless!

This gryphon here in the preview for the third plays WoW. I love how the heroes in modern paranormal romance do so many totally mundane things, like leave their shit all around and on the way out to San Francisco to pay back a blood debt log in to get in a few more hours of play time in because no doubt the vampire queen he owes is going to keep him busy for a long time.

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 3:28 AM, August 24th (Wednesday)]

I adore the Fever series. I just read on the author's site recently that Dreamworks has aquired the rights to this series to turn into movies. I enjoy Sherrilyn Kenyon's Hunter series, more the Dream Hunters than the Dark/Were Hunters. Lynsay Sands, JR Ward and Charliene Harris are entertaing as well. I haven't seen Keri Arthur mentioned on this thread. Her Reily Jensen books are fairly steamy and a fast read. I just picked up both Elder Races books the other day based on a friend's reccomendation. I'm glad to see that it seems to be good.

I have a feeling they'll cast an actual 22yo as Mac and Barrons will end up being a 25yo, because they'll want it to have Twilight/Hunger Games appeal. It should be a tv show, if anything, but you'd have to bring in other characters a lot sooner and probably Mac would actually hook up with V'lane and that cop guy from early on because he'd be turned into a young, hot single guy, and Barrons' boys would come along sooner and there'd be some early Sidhe seer action on that front. NOTHING pays off until 4 or 5. That doesn't work for tv and even less for film. Oh, wait, also Darroc is very attractive and it's a waste to kill him. Hilarious in the book but a waste of an actor who might by that point be resonating with the fan base. You gotta be careful. I'm in it for Barrons but that can change and expand when there are actors involved. He's a much more difficult role to cast than the others, who have fewer expectations of omniscient Magnficent Bastardy.

Oh and also the very important death that Barrons is trying to bring about will be solved via some other means.

/overthinks

Allyson James' Shareem series is good and I want someone else to read it so I can eyeroll over the constant "He's a Level Three!" absurdities. STFU about that already. She writes historicals under the name Jennifer Ashley, and wrote that one a while back with the autistic hero who'd been consigned to an asylum, The Madness of something or other. The Shareem books feel nothing at all like that one, though they're all good.

Oh, and lord_v is halfway through Dragon Bound! His reading list the past six weeks or so has been the *entire* Immortals After Dark series, *Lord of Scoundrels*, and now Dragon Bound! And The Quantum Thief but that doesn't go along with my theme.

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 3:28 AM, August 24th (Wednesday)]

Ok ladies, without cheating, guess about the following:

A series called "Cougar Falls" is probably about...

A. Werecougars

B. Older women/younger men

C. Both

Cheating means Googling, Amazoning, or being NewAttitude.

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 5:04 AM, August 25th (Thursday)]

I have nothing to say about this.

I'm SO glad you are enjoying Thea Harrison.

It is my job sometime in the next week or so to actually go back and find her earlier books because I just can't believe that someone went from writing Harlequins when she was 18 to popping *this* kind of book out.

I want to see what she started as.

I will report back my findings.

lord_v is enjoying them but he is highly critical of them and here's why: he's comparing her to Kresley Cole and she's failing on that model because lord_v's opinion on KC was that her world-building and complicated and successfully worked out *series long* plotlines where most of the books were actually set during the same few months so constantly informed one another and her attention to detail and ability to hold a whole framework in her memory was so impressive that lessers just aren't doing it for him. It was hilarious how he kept boggling at KC, like he couldn't believe the superior *fantasy* product a romance author had turned out.

Plus he didn't like it that in Dragon Bound they have sex the first time "In the dirt. While running. From *goblins." He just kept repeating that. Blah blah oh and also, in KC they don't have sex in the dirt while running from goblins.

Men

Yes, I'm sure they will change things from the book that make no sense to change. Have you read Karen Marie Monings Facebook page? Here is a link to some recent news she posted regarding the Fever world if you haven't: https://www.facebook.com/KarenMarieMoningfan?ref=ts#!/note.php?note_id=10150278545389142

Have you or NewAttitude read the Chicagoland Vampire series by Chole Neill. It has a Barron-esqe character and I love the main female. I told my hubby he should read some of these books, but he won't. He calls them my sexy books . Who writes the Immortals after Dark series?

The Immortals After Dark is Kresley Cole.

Great series.

I have one of the Neill books in my TBR pile so I'll move it up the queue.

My findings re. Thea Harrison's earlier books.

She was very 18.

Very.

And they were written in the 80's.

Ouch.

Okay, read Gena Showalter's newest Alien Huntress book...

She is starting to lose her luster with me.

All of her female characters are beginning to seem like different versions of Anya.

Hmm. Since Anya is my favorite LotU heroine by *far* - like I see no value in any of the others at all - I might like this series.

I didn't read the last LotU. I just was not interested in Amun's hook, and the chick he was paired with was the one I thought *Strider* was going to be paired with, because why do the bounty hunter/sexy fugitive thing and then give her a different hero? WTF?

Just waitin' for Paris. He's 6'8, you know! I told lord_v that it's a romance rule that when a guy is abnormally tall or has a Penis of Unusual Size and numbers are given, really, just roll both back by four inches. 6'8 is 6'4 in real boy terms. 12" (egad, *wince*) is 8" in real boy terms.

I have to remember that rule as I read the Shareem series (recommend!) since they were all grown in a lab and are 7' tall with 12" dicks. Just go ahead and roll those back 4" and envision that, that's really what the author *means*, she just knows if she says 6'8 and 8" we will mentally subtract 4" and that will not produce the desired results.

I really wish specific penis lengths wouldn't be mentioned at all. It's inevitably an absurd length and then I can't enjoy the sex scenes because I have too much information.

Oh, and I read the Nauti books by Lora Leigh! Aside from having major name issues with the cousins and I had them in PDF, no less, which means I couldn't find and replace their stupid names and never really figuring out why a bunch of dudes were so taken with that particular spelling of "naughty," it was really good! Much better than that companion series about their cousins, which was so gang-rapey I had to put it down halfway through the second one. She sure does like her incest, though, doesn't she? She's a native of Kentucky, these books are set in Kentucky, and incest is a go-to backstory/villain motivation for her? This is like if I wrote a series set in Florida and my go-to backstory/villain was something about conventionally attractive young blonde teachers molesting their teenage students.

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 3:32 PM, August 29th (Monday)]

Just popping in to share a funny..... so trashy books are my dirty little secret. H knows, and I've often shared with him when I found characters in the books that reminded me of him. I swear, I can't read about any of these men without putting his face/bod on them -- so he's been cool with me reading them and I've had no guilt.

Fast forward to last week when he returned from Europe and a business trip. He tells me how he was showing his colleagues all the neat things he can do with his iPad, including access the Kindle app. And look, he says, it even shows you your archived books....

And then he begins telling me the top titles that were on the list. He was laughing so hard I thought he'd pee on himself, and I was ready to crawl under a table and hide.

It's one thing to have those random, sexy conversations with the hubs about the books. It's entirely another to learn that his colleagues know his wife has a large collection of BDSM (and other interesting topics)novels.

oh. my. gawd.

I'd DIE (but I can laugh since it happened to you and not me! lol)

NA, I don't often get freaked out (thank you Prozac) but I had to stop him from telling me anymore. We were at breakfast with the kids who were thankfully busy laughing about something else and all I could say was stop talking! don't tell me anymore please! shussssssh!!! Neither of us could believe how much it had me blushing. Mercy!

But what a sweet memory for you two to have together... even if it is embarrassing.

My H likes to tease me about reading 'woman porn' and then he looks at the covers and makes up his own titles. It is hilarious what he comes up with. Then he will come up with a character and ask me something like if the 'French Vietnamese Hemophiliac Horse Training Spy' is in this one.

Stacia Kane "Ghost" series.

First off, the female lead is a trainwreck of a human being, living in a slum by choice and popping pills by the handful, pretty much unapologetically so--certainly unself-pityingly so. She debunks/dehaunts (depending) hauntings for the Church, which has replaced all religion and pretty much all government since The Haunting some 25 (?) year earlier, when all the ghosts rose, and were pissed. Two thirds of humanity died, so your basic dystopian dark urban fantasy, but not boringly so.

There are three so far, and they're *surprisingly* good for the genre. And she gets better with one, so she's on the upswing. I suspect the author of being *much* smarter than she writes. Little things jump out--surprising nuance, the odd breath-takingly beautiful turn of phrase-and then dive back underground. The plot is more mystery than romance, but there is the requisite Tragic Male, but he's not interested in Healing by Vagina, because she's a trainwreck (though he saves her ass when brute force is needed, he's totally impressed by her cool witchy skillz). He works with her on her mysteries. And he's the enforcer for her drug dealer.

Still stinky cheese, but more Époisses than Limburger.

I swear, I can't read about any of these men without putting his face/bod on them -- so he's been cool with me reading them and I've had no guilt.

I go through phases. Generally if he's fair-haired I picture him as Kevin McKidd. If he's dark-haired, that changes over time. Right now, it's Joe Manganiello, unless the guy is clearly way, way too *not Joe Manganiello*. Michael Fassbender is a go-to when Joe doesn't fit.

In Lord of Scoundrels, I do picture lord_v, because he ticks off many of those boxes. Good and bad.

I had been *highly* resistant to the Richelle Mead Succubus series, even though I loved the Vampire Academy series. I guess I felt that I had put up with enough humiliation from her when I read Vampire Academy (yes, the first is titled exactly that) *on an airplane* in *full view of humanity* because it was *in trade paperback* while being *an overweight brunette female in her late 30s* and thus *falling into Stephenie Meyer's actual demographic* which *makes it much more embarrassing*.

But! The first in the VA follow-up series (ADRIAN!!!) came out Monday, so I read that, and I thought you know, I've been reaaaally species-ist about the Succubus series, let me look into that. Then I discovered the sixth and final volume was being published *yesterday* so I took this as a sign from the universe and read them all yesterday.

It. Was. Awesome.

I can't believe she had me on board with the human over the nephilim. Nephilim are my favorite immortals and are never done right. It's an adorable series, and she really goes all-in with the supernatural hooker thing. I was surprised, that takes nerve.

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 9:58 AM, September 1st (Thursday)]

Raziel By Kristina Douglas

and the Guild Hunter series by Nalini Singh feature angels and fallen angels if you are into that kind of thing.