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He is in Iced. Not a ton, but if you have Barrons around very much, nobody is going to pay attention to Ryodan or Christian.

I am almost done with Iced, and I have to say it is actually excellent. The writing is better than any of the Fever books, tbqh.

I got off on a Dean Koontz tangent somehow.

Will read Kristen Ashley AFTER Iced.

Thanks for the heads up.

Damn...that book is expensive on Kindle! Oh well.

I loved Iced. Finished it in a day and now have to wait another year for the next one :( I just love the world and characters KMM creates. I know the next two books are supposed to be Dani/Christian/Ryoday-centric and then we go back to Mac and Barrons for another 3 books(last the author posted). That's another 5 years of Fever world. I'm very happy about that.

I thought it was great.

I also thought that there is nothing he actually says or does that he could not say or do if he was Dani's dad. I am not saying he is, though one of those guys has to be, right? She has their superpowers, except diluted. There is of course no way that Dani's observations about his various sexcapades or the vibe she feels could happen if that's the way it's going down, just saying that he is actually not definitely indicating interest. His words and behavior could easily be that of a guy warning a bunch of assholes away from his kid. Just because Christian thinks he was eyeballing her that one time doesn't mean he was. Christian is nuts.

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But Ryodan and Christian both need to step off because Dancer is the man. Who gives zero fucks about their (highly entertaining) dick measuring contest, which indicates he knows his is the biggest. I am kind of thinking his backstory is almost what he states, except instead of Australia it's more like one of the other worlds accessible through the silvers, and now he's trapped here.

But seriously, that scene where he completely schools them and defrosts Dani is epic. I was laughing out loud.

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 3:52 AM, November 6th (Tuesday)]

Still reading Iced. So not reading the spoilers!

I like it so far.

Oh my goodness.

Bond/M 3 fanfic.

It is *tremendous*, and is it just me or is it warm in here?

I just read thru this WHOLE thread and did not even know you guys were down here!! Sheesh....I LOVE trashy books! In fact my husband just made me go thru all of my old paperback book collection that I have kept thru the years and I have BOXES!! Ha!

Since the NOOK came along I no longer have boxes and boxes of books....I sorta miss the good ole paperback but if anyone ever went thru my NOOK?

Susan Johnson was my hot read a long time ago...did not know about Charlotte Stein so just ordered some Belle Andre is good too if you want quick fun reads.

OH MY GOD.

This! Book!

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15760001-on-dublin-street

Now now, everyone go get it now. I promise it's not one of those weird ones only I like!

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 3:34 PM, December 5th (Wednesday)]

About 70% through Rock Chick--and I like it! However, it's not as compelling to me as Iced. I literally couldn't put that book down

Will try the Dublin Street next.

Couple other excellent contemporaries I've read recently:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16081272-the-edge-of-never

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15858248-wallbanger

Wallbanger is excellent & IIRC was also born from a Twilight fanfic called "Edward Wallbanger". I should be ashamed I know that but it was a great fanfic lol

You know, I'm glad I know next to nothing about Twilight beyond the first one, since 90% of really great contemporary romances seem to have come from Twilight AU fic.

However, I have to say this: if it's AU I don't even see why, except for noting it came with a built-in audience, one bothers to care (like be bovvered by its success) that it was fanfic. It's not like the wireframe of Twilight was innovative. Romance tropes are romance tropes. It's the skinning and the rendering that make the difference.

With 50 Shades I could see some of the wireframe, at least. Vibe, character types, aspirational (he shows her whole new world! A richer one, with an instant family!) but Wallbanger is a totally different wireframe. Nothing in common in terms of vibe or characters, either. It's not told entirely first person, her POV. And it's a comedy - an intentional one, at that. Was it vastly different in fic form?

I can even see how On Dublin Street could be from Twific (or maybe 50 Shades fic). She's not sure he's into her because he runs hot and cold, he's possessive, it's first person her POV, along with him she is provided with a family. But Wallbanger?

You know, I think these days people are reverse-engineering their original work a bit and find/replacing the names, and posting it as Twilight AU. And good for them, understanding guerrilla marketing like that. It's a business.

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 4:09 AM, December 7th (Friday)]

Oooooh, I have been busy going through these threads and downloading . THANK GOD for the brown paper cover Kindle!! Ladies, your commission checks will certainly be in the mail . . .

Ok, gettin' to trash - know that I would never read trash like Lauren Dane (loved the Chased series!). And I would never, ever read Undercover (yo baby! *fans face*)

I go between so many genres. I'm reading Clare Delacroix's Jewels of Kinfairlie series, which are a medium simmer, but very nicely written. A little hot sex, a little paranormal, very hunky guys, 1400's Scotland. Check.

Has anyone read John Locke? Definitely not "romantic" but HUGELY entertaining, LOL funny - and definitely not for the faint of heart. He has two or three series going, assassin Donovan Creed (Lethal People is #1, contemporary setting) and I absolutely adore his Emmett Love series (Follow the Stone is #1). What's not to love about a retired gunslinger transporting whores with a nip contest and a hunchback sidekick? You cannot judge this series by any descriptions. You. Just. Can. Not. And they are .99 each, so there's nothing to lose.

Ok, waiting to download a shitload of trashy good stuff!!!! H is out of town, need entertainment

PippaPeach6 is namechecking menage titles.

COME SIT BY ME.

Girl can I ever *hook you up*.

Here's my menage list:

http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/3838951?shelf=menage

Here's my MMF/+ list:

http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/3838951?shelf=mmf

If they're on menage but not MMF they're straight guys. You can see where my loyalties lie.

You'll have to be a member to view my lists. =)

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 3:38 PM, December 7th (Friday)]

And it's a comedy - an intentional one, at that. Was it vastly different in fic form?

No, it wasn't vastly different from the fic at all. Edward Wallbanger was also an intentionally hilarious story & was quite the hit on fanfiction.net (also where 50 Shades began before she put it on her own website).

You're so right about it being a business though. I remember when E.L. James ( posting as Snowqueens Icedragon on Twitter) announced she would be publishing 50 Shades and the "fandom" went insane because they thought it was stealing from Stephanie Meyer. James then said she already had the story formed in her head but then wrote it with Edward & Bella to capitalize on the Twilight craze...and it worked because even though I read the original "Master of the Universe" for free, I still bought all 3 books and so did many others

There's another really good Twilight fic that was published, I believe it's called "Poughkeepsie". I've read the fic, but not the published story so I'm not sure of the changes but it isn't really a trashy book, but very good all the same!

I'll look around the net & my fanfic files on my laptop to see if anyone has Edward Wallbanger if anyone's interested; it has to be one of my all time favorite Twilight fanfics...and sadly, I've read a lot

Sure, I'll read it. I really enjoyed Wallbanger, though honestly, they took so long to get around to doing anything I got nervous and searched for cock just to make sure at some point there was going to be cock. I don't REQUIRE it, but if there isn't going to be any I want to know ASAP.

I told my husband the other week that my theory was that EL James wrote that in the 90s. Everything about it feels so 90s. She didn't even fix up the language to sound American. Americans don't say "sort yourself out," etc. And good for her if she did.

Cara McKenna, who is one of my favorites, has gotten so much money from me this year. It's not that no one else is doing this, but she's the perfect example. She releases Curio summer 2011. It's 3.99 and is long novella length. And starting August 2011 she publishes one "Curio Vignette" a month, five total, ending this month...short novella, 3.99 each. Put together the whole thing is maybe a 6000 on Kindle, but one 6000 would go for what, 6.99? This 6000 is $24! I have enormous respect for people who work out new ways to get my money.

Really, romance is practically following a blog model these days. Always. Be. Updating.

I think I tried to start Poughkeepsie and got bored. Right now I'm reading a CR called The Mighty Storm which was 3.99, I think, but it's over 16000 on Kindle. Jesus. The longest Kristen Ashley wasn't even that long and that bitch goes on forever. I like these people who write very long things for 3.99 or less. Established authors get more money for stuff that doesn't occupy me for more than 4 hours. They're like hotels. The more they cost, the less value they provide.

I'll look for Edward Wallbanger for you, Lady V Since it's been published, I know it's no longer on fanfiction.net but I may have the PDF file or know someone who does.

OK...I've read most of this thread so I may have missed it but does anyone have any good BDSM Erotica recs? I tend to not want to pay more than $6.99 for a Kindle book..well I prefer free, but still...I'm cheap I've found quite a few free BDSM books on Amazon but the majority are less than 100 pages & I like something I can sink my teeth into. Nothing too hardcore (like forced rape) but not too light ( I considered 50 Shades WAY light).

Thanks in advance!

Mdom, Fdom, either? Can the guys be bi? Can there be guys as opposed to a guy? Can there be only guys? Are you talking like Captive in the Dark or like Club Shadowlands? Do you not care if it's absurd like Club Shadowlands and the rest of the improbable BDSM club in Tampa or similar genre? When you say 50 Shades was too light you mean in the way it was written, which was low on the dirty writing scale, or the acts portrayed, like you'd want to see more, err...descriptions of BDSM activities?

I end up reading a lot of these just because there are so many of them but it isn't my thing, since you rarely find Fdom and the men in these books, though sure maybe hot, almost never strike me as people who are suited for leadership positions. Also I don't care for props so anything that includes any floggin' and figgin' (seriously ladies, you don't have to throw in everything you read about in Screw the Roses, Send Me the Thorns, mmmkay?) so I only really get into it when it seems life-sized.

My favorite life-size BDSM-adjacent genuinely sexy book is Willing Victim by Cara McKenna. Switchy.

My favorite improbable BDSM club in Tampa or similar Mdom is My Liege of Dark Haven.

Life-size Fdom, many things by Charlotte Stein, probably Control if I had to pick one. Lots of things by Megan Hart have that vibe.

Improbable Fdom...Joey Hill, Natural Law. However, it should be noted this is probably the only tolerable title in its category, so...

Menage BDSM, Kele Moon, Beyond Eden. Mmf.

[This message edited by ladyvorkosigan at 5:14 AM, December 8th (Saturday)]

Lady V - You rock! Love some of your recs!

Just read Wallbanger....I agree that it is a funny book but took too long for some real action. But very easy read and I too read it in a day as I did find it a fast paced and enjoyable book.

My nook is burning up!