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just wanted to say thanks for the suggestions...have had a very hard time reading since dday...used to read daily....looking forward to starting this series!

@Mead......gee thanks for the insight! j/k lol

Homeboy needed a stronger editor.

FormerlyTeflon, I agree! The first book was tight, and had a lot of momentum, couldn't wait to see how the various strands were resolved.

Then I guess he realized he had a success and decided to milk it...expanding the number of characters and dragging it all out...I just got more annoyed with every successive book. George Lucas Syndrome - no one can tell him what doesn't work artistically, because it's a money-maker.

Also, I felt there was more and more sadistic violence and sex, unnecessary from my point of view.

However, I FINALLY got the first episode from Netflix and am looking forward to it - think the movie will be better because they actually employ editors.

This is one of the few movies/television shows I liked better than the books. I stopped halfway through book 3 because I just wasn't into it any longer.

Homeboy needed a stronger editor.

I agree, though I have not seen the show I want to very much despite not liking the books.

Other things about the series bothered me, especially how everyone apparently had things like bread and hay despite the peasant population of entire kingdoms lying murdered in a ditch and magically repopulating themselves like video game enemies popping up out of nowhere unexplained. He also wandered off from his primary plot threads and instead of steering them back on course just buried them and introduced others. It kind of felt like I was reading Wheel of Time: The unmedicated ADHD version. I kept expecting Gandalf and Lan to appear and do battle with an avatar of Slaanesh at the Icewall leaving me at an unresolved cliffhanger, and then read two books about teen pregnancy from the perspective of a self rescuing princess married to a Cyan Bloodbane.

There is a lot of interesting intrigue that was fun to read but I couldn't get past the things that bothered me enough. Hoping I can get past that in the TV series since it looks like it's a high production value kind of show.

felt like I was reading Wheel of Time: The unmedicated ADHD version

We just watched the first two episodes, and it was pretty well done. H hasn't read books and is looking forward to next episodes. My enjoyment was slightly diminished by his asking me, every time a new character is introduced, "Is he going to die?"

My enjoyment was slightly diminished by his asking me, every time a new character is introduced, "Is he going to die?"

g_r is reading us the Prydain series starting with Book of Three for bedtime stories (we sit in and listen to the other read when we take turns with the chapter books, I read Princess Bride for the previous book) and our 5 year old asks that every five minutes. "Is he going to live?" "Will he be ok?" "Yes he's in the next book but is he gonna be ok? <angrily> Obi wan died and he was in all three movies so does Gwydion live what about Henwen" "GO TO BED"

StillGoing,

A legitimate concern for a 5 y.o., but my H is 5 x 10!

I love it that you read together as a family.

I enjoyed the HBO series. I enjoyed the first book. I watched today, and had been looking forward to it.

However, the pacing of the books gets ridiculously slow. I think it takes longer to read about someone walking across Westeros than it takes to actually walk across the world.

I bogged down in book 3, and have no desire to buy the latest issue.

I think he ran out of ideas a long time ago, and keeps repeating himself. It reminded me a lot of Larry McMurtry and Lonesome Dove. Truly awesome novel, but the sequels were tired rehashes.

Hopefully, HBO has received permission to take this in its own direction soon. Either that, or future seasons will run only an episode or two.

Have to admit I'm looking forward to 6-3 Gwendolyn Christie in the role of Brienne.

I'm another one getting bogged down reading this. I love some of the story lines a lot, but those are the ones he spends the least amount of time on. The stories that have little depth or interest to me are given so much real estate that I have to keep pushing myself through them.

I haven't watched the series, but hopefully they've culled out a lot of the stodge and mundane "what they saw next on the road".

The Big Thing That Happens toward the end of the first book pissed me off so much that I haven't finished it. I keep thinking I will. It has been six months. But I hold a grudge like a professional and I'm not sure I can do it.

I DO, however, want to see the series, because I will simply have to invest less time. And also, eye candy. They have Boromir! Mrrrwwrrr.

What? Sorry.

I completely missed the series when it started so when the ads for the show started last year, I looked it up, bought the whole damn series on my Kindle and started reading. It does get wordy about the 3rd book, but I still enjoyed it.

1st season was great, 2nd so far doing well.....let's hope they seriously edit the next 2 b4 they do book 3 and 4.

Anyone know when the 6th book is due out? I know Martin writes like molasses in January.

Awesome show, great books when they start out but book 4 and 5 drag on and on. He's just asking a lot of his readers who may have gotten into certain characters. He makes the story too all encompassing and loses focus. The second half of book 5 drew me back in though.

In season 2 / episode 2 they've deviated from the book quite a bit already!

Love these books!

However, I waited sooooo long for the 'final,' book to come out, only to find out that there was another one to come!! And then another!!!! Not impressed.

I haven't even read the most recent (though I have it on my bookcase) as I need to re-read all the others first and want to wait for the final book! Little annoying, and the worry is that he won't actually finish it. I've read his 'biography,' and he has had a tendency to begin things, and then leave them unfinished, so....

It's always good to see books that I've loved becoming more wide spread.

Now if people would only catch on to Guy Gavriel Kay....(And Robin Hobb - don't get me started on her! )

Well, count me in as another fan...of the TV series that is. Couldn't wait to watch it last season every week & can hardly wait for each episode now.

Then I guess he realized he had a success and decided to milk it...expanding the number of characters and dragging it all out...I just got more annoyed with every successive book

This is the exact reason I stopped reading Stephen King. It got so that every character that had absolutely no meaning to the plot line was detailed way more than they needed to be and now I'm finding it with my FAVE author, Ann Rule, who does true crime. I don't want to know where each police officer went to grammar school, etc....arrrgh, just get on with it. Makes me wish they would put an abridgement in those books were you read the highlighted sections for the main plotline, hehe.

My husband has been a fan of such fantasy books (why does this not surprise me that he as a WS is heavy in fantasy) & says he has about 4 of the GoT books somewhere. I may wait till the season is over to read them though after the drag along comments, but I think it might be worthy, maybe for me to get a more complete picture.

Just started the tv series last night!!! I am two episodes in and I LOVE it!!!!

I'll probably read the books after I watch the series since I've already started.

@ meta, that's what I did...I saw the first season and then read the book...now I'm readding the book and waiting till I finish to see the second season...but I made the mistake of reading the wiki on the books so now I know some of what's going to happen (I'm just nosy that way and always ruin the ending for myself lol)

Lets just say the author better finish the series however if he doesn't I hope that HBO has permission to finish it as they see fit

I'm almost towards the end of the second book.....and things are getting good!

I am trying sooooo hard not to spoil it for myself. Typically when I watch something like this and have a question I will google the answer and end up reading way more than I should and spoil it all for myself

So even though I have some questions I am not looking them up!! I find some of the relationships confusing. I always do with HBO shows for awhile. There's so much detail that I find myself wondering who they are talking about sometimes.

I don't have HBO anymore, but I have heard so many good things about this series, both the books and the shows. I think it will be the next thing I pick up, having just finished the Hunger Games series.

I can't recommend it highly enough. Totally enthralling!

OMG I knew there would be a GOT thread! :) I watched the series and just loved it. Totally addicted :) So much that I just couldn't wait and started reading the books. Enjoying it so far! I really can't wait to find out what happens :)