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livebythesea (original poster member #38900) posted at 8:26 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
I am in such a terrible state of mind right now, it's like I so desperately need advice, a hug, a shoulder. Do you members who have experienced this hell and back, and now you are in a position to give sound advice, do you think that I am being paranoia? Is it all in my mind, is it not possible, that he may be telling me the truth? Or is it obvious to you that he is still lying. Help me ...
Me - 65 I often have to remind myself of my age! Husband - 65 DD1 April 5 2013 (a lie)DD2 April 23 2013DD3 June 22 20133 children 5 grandchildren
lieshurt ( member #14003) posted at 8:33 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
Or is it obvious to you that he is still lying.
^^^This.
An honest,remorseful man would be doing everything in his power to prove to you that he was telling you the truth. Refusing to take the polygraph just shows you his true colors.
((hugs)) You will get through this. Never doubt that.
No one changes unless they want to. Not if you beg them. Not if you shame them. Not if you use reason, emotion, or tough love. There is only one thing that makes someone change: their own realization that they need to.
gonnabe2016 ( member #34823) posted at 8:38 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
I don't think that you are being paranoid.
I do think that he is still lying to you.
Your situation is not going to resolve itself in an hour. It is going to unfold.
Just take it one moment at a time.
Breathe. Focus. Process. Think.
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott
In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.
painpaingoaway ( member #27196) posted at 8:42 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
Sweetie, let me tell you something. Do you know why all WS's lie, and deny, and TT, or refuse to talk at all? Because they are afraid. They are afraid to lose everything. They are afraid to lose us, or their lifestyle. Or their possessions, or their children, or their social status or whatever. Bottom line. They are AFRAID.
So, once you let them know that you WILL divorce them if they do not do XYZ, then, they, out of sheer desperation, will finally do what you ask. But, not until then. And, you can not bluff. You HAVE to mean it.
Start looking for lawyers and leave their business cards laying around so he sees them.
D-Day June 2009
Watch my movie: "My wayward husband's adventures in STD land":
Episode 1: youtu.be/9Jv0-d_CdYc
Episode 2: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tz822H82Gk
JanaGreen ( member #29341) posted at 8:45 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
So, once you let them know that you WILL divorce them if they do not do XYZ, then, they, out of sheer desperation, will finally do what you ask. But, not until then. And, you can not bluff. You HAVE to mean it.
This is absolutely true, I'm sorry. I wish there were another way.
((HUGS))
solus sto ( member #30989) posted at 8:51 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
If there is one thing I wish I had truly believed, when told early on: TRUST YOUR GUT.
No, you're not being paranoid.
The mind, actually, works in quite the opposite way.
We go to ridiculous lengths to convince ourselves to believe the people we love, even when we have ample evidence that we should not. We are willing to assign labels to ourselves, to call ourselves paranoid and insane, because it is somehow easier than believing that the people we love might lie to us or betray us.
This is where you now are.
BS-me, 62; X-irrelevant; we’re D & NC. "So much for the past and present. The future is called 'perhaps,' which is the only possible thing to call the future. And the important thing is not to let that scare you." Tennessee Williams
JustWow ( member #19636) posted at 8:54 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
He won't take a poly. He won't tell the truth. He doesn't give a rip if you trust him, he wants to use you.
The M he is offering you to move forward with is one that he has nuked and he wants to act like the problem is that you WANT the truth. The PROBLEM is the truth he continues to hide.
Get mad, honey. Find your angry self. What he's offering to move forward with is soooooooooooooo much less than you, or anyone, deserves.
BW - Reconciling
edited for typos (I always have to!)
residencywife93 ( new member #39695) posted at 9:06 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
I'm not experienced, but I just want to offer support. I'm sorry you are going through this. I've learned a rough lesson about trusting your gut- it's never, ever, wrong.
Me: BS 27
Him: WH 27
Married 9/3/11
Together since 10/2006
DDay 5/28/13
Filed 7/22/13
Lacing up my nikes and running west!
painpaingoaway ( member #27196) posted at 9:10 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
Get mad, honey. Find your angry self.
yep, and at will scare the shit out of him, which is what he needs.
I raged at FWH for 2 solid weeks. Got as much info as I could before becoming so exhausted that I went silent. Radio silent. Then saw lawyers. Then I moved out....
THEN.......he 'got it'.
D-Day June 2009
Watch my movie: "My wayward husband's adventures in STD land":
Episode 1: youtu.be/9Jv0-d_CdYc
Episode 2: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tz822H82Gk
wert ( member #34478) posted at 9:28 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
I am really sorry you are going through this. It is brutal.
I got really angry at first. It shell shocked my W. Then I got stone cold quiet. That was much worst.
If you really want advice this is what I would do:
Go out tonight by yourself. Find a nice restaurant a book and maybe take in a show if you like. Treat yourself and really try hard to forget about him and his current stupidity.
Tomorrow morning search the internet for a list of D lawyers in your area. Call a few and setup some appointments. Talk to them and explain your situation and ask what information they would need from you to proceed with D.
Quietly start gathering information about accounts. Find out where you stand if you leave. If you don't know how find someone you trust (not your H) and have them help.
Then get a calendar out for the next month. Fill it up with things you want to do and things you need to do. Exclude your H as much as possible. Plan you life for you.
If you H talks to you just explain to him that you don't trust him and that you need some time to process. It's a lot to take in after all.
Go live for the next month. Just live and have fun. Don't think about tomorrow or next week. I mean be reasonable and don't take life threatening changes, but do your thing. If you don't know what that is try new stuff. Yoga, running, a new sport, hiking. Get out there.
Every time you think of him and start to work say this to yourself. Fuck him for now. I need space.
Use it to build a new you. If he is still around after a month or so perhaps he will be ready to talk, perhaps not.
take care...
I think I can ( member #17756) posted at 9:40 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
Trust yourself. Your emotions are normal, natural, and understandable--you have just discovered that your life is a completely different one than the life you thought you were leading.
((livebythesea))
And yeah, he's lying his butt off. There's more. I've been here nearly 6 years and read 10,000 stories in that time. Real people here, first hand stories. Brace yourself, honey, there is more.
I'm not the winner, I'm the prize.
OldCow18 ( member #39670) posted at 10:38 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
I'm also not experienced, but I have to agree with the trust you gut thing. My gut told me something was wrong long before I found out he was cheating. I wish I listened to it earlier. Hugs.
Me, BW forty something, DD & DS,
Married to WH (49) 11 years, together 16
D-Day 6.8.13
seekingclarity ( new member #39676) posted at 11:51 PM on Thursday, June 27th, 2013
I am not experienced on this site, but I am experienced with cheaters and liars. Always trust yourself. My WS is a chronic (read: pathological) liar, but was always able to convince me that I didn't know what I was talking about, that up was down and right was left. All the while my instincts were almost screaming that what I believed to be true was true. Your subconscious is picking up the energy that your H is giving off. Trust yourself, trust your instincts. You are wiser and more powerful than you realize.
Me: BS (50's, but No One Would Know)
Him: STBWXH - PA/CA/NPD Serial Cheater (50's going on 12)
D-Day: Every Day?
4 Outstanding Offspring
Tragedy in life normally comes with betrayal and compromise . . .
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