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I'm not mad b/c she and her kids came over. I'm pissed at the lack of consideration for my clearly expressed feelings on the subject.

The longer the morning goes on the more pissed I get. I usually don't hear from him until lunchtime and I know I'm going to be pissed until then.

It's disrespect. Plain and simple.

If you had been home and invited her and her kids over AS A COUPLE, that would have been perfectly fine.

But if there were people there who aren't friends of the relationship as you've implied, that is a major issue.

That is just rubbing your face in it.

If you flip this and make it you socializing and drinking with someone you had history with while he was out of town and you didn't contact him, how the heck would he feel?

Exactly the same I would imagine.

We will be discussing just that. I know its tough to plan things as a couple because of my travel schedule. However, I don't think I'm being insanely jealous by wanting just a little bit of contact from him last night.

I don't normally fuss much about cheating types of things. He knows it. I expressed my concerns and my desire for some contact. He acknowledged it. I didn't spend the evening calling him every 30 minutes. I called once.

This just pisses me off. I am not asking for too much out of this and if I am someone here set me straight b/c I am getting madder and madder

This is creeping up really close to deal breaker territory for me.

Hey hexed,

I am sooo right with you on this one. I would be freaking out. I have to say I am a bit confused as to what exactly happened. You called him and you talked to him because you said he had obviously been drinking. So, then you expected him to text you later? and he didn't? So this is what is making you mad? Is there a chance he didn't think he needed to because you talked? I guess I was just confused on why you are saying you wanted contact with him and you did talk to him?

What you are not admitting here is that you don't trust TG. Who cares if the woman has loose morals, gets pissy drunk, whatever. If you trust him and his boundaries are firmly in place, you don't have anything to worry about. This is the crux of the situation.

Yes, it's disrespectful of him to ignore your feelings, but if you trusted him, you might not have these feelings.

You guys have a lot to deal with; I hope it gets straightened out.

SadAZ

Its not that I don't trust TG. This is exactly what I explained to him. I'm reliving the situation with my X. No matter how much time goes by certain things will still make me relive my own trust issues.

I explained that to TG last night. "i need a little extra attention tonight" My X would get drunk and behave badly with friends. I never saw it coming. Its not that I don't trust TG, Its that I asked for something small and didn't get it. That is not normally a problem. I don't ask often but when I do. I just tell him I'm a little needy b/c of XYZ and he's usually very good about an extra call or text. Last night, this woman that I don't trust was at my house with TG and I didn't get what I asked for and I'm upset.

Hi Hexed...butting in but this

I'm not mad b/c she and her kids came over. I'm pissed at the lack of consideration for my clearly expressed feelings on the subject.

why aren't you mad that she came over?

From what you posted we know:

A - this woman was an ex girlfriend of sorts

B - she made it clear she wants to be the girlfriend again

C- she repeatedly fishes even though she knows full well about you

She has zero boundaries and no respect for you, your relationship or TG for that matter. There is no way in hell she should be in your home.

That is not about you trusting your SO, it's about respect and common decency. You shouldn't serve milk and cookies to people who seek to stab you in the back.

And question - why does your SO have to be friends with this woman? Really?

She lives far away, makes you feel uncomfortable and is disrespectful. What exactly is the upside?

The kids? If I am correct the kids are older than say 10yrs old? If so, non of the parents need to be involved if the kids want to maintain a long distance friendship. The kids can email and Facebook and Tweet and call each other all they like.

Seriously, I would look to jettison this chick from my life. Part of my new beginning is that I will not allow people who treat me poorly or consistently make me upset any room in my life.

[This message edited by phillygirl at 1:05 PM, July 25th (Thursday)]

Thinking about you this evening. Sending you mojo for patience and "right words" and peace in your heart for what to say and ultimately do.

(((hugs)))

missed this yesterday, looks like hugs are still important(((hexed))) BREATHE, think before you talk, take your time to say what you need to say and remember to listen too.

(((hexed)))

He really needs to respect your feelings & she needs to go. He can keep contact with the kids without her - they sound like adults?

Check my profile - exes are not to be trusted, especially the fishing kind. Throw in alcohol & BOOM!!!

She is clearly not a "friend of the relationship" so I don't think you need to be ok with it on any level. And for your partner to know how you feel and know where this person stands yet thinks its ok, its not ok. The lack of contact on top of all that, is really just icing on the cake. I would be pissed, so I am not talking you down. Get it out.

Edited to add a hug, because that is what you asked for, not my opinion! (((Hexed)))

[This message edited by ItsNotUitsMe at 7:19 PM, July 25th (Thursday)]

(((hexed))))

Asking for what you need like a mature participant in a relationship and then NOT getting it is really hard. Unless he said he couldn't give you that extra contact/reassurance. My guess is he said OK but didn't follow through. Ouch. In addition I also don't understand why this woman has to come to your home when you are not there. I'm sure there are some social complexities.

I hope you and TG can talk this through. You guys have a solid history of working through difficult things that have come up. I hope his reassurance is just delayed.

(((((hexed))))))

Thanks everyone we have talked. I am not 100% OK with things at the moment. I am better but not 100%

We had a good talk but I feel like at a certain point he put up some defensivness. Not the kind b/c he did something wrong. The kind that comes from discomfort and unhealthy communications. I'm also sure he's not 100% comfortable with my position on this.

I believe that we will work through it but we are not there yet. I suspect that this is best left for in person so I have dropped it for now.

There are some social complexities. However that does not excuse being disrespectful. Part of it has to do with it some assumptions on both of our parts. Its a big challenge for us.

We have had successful communication in the past. However, we're not in the same place mentally or physically right now so I'm going to just try and find my own focus and peace until I get home.

Oh HELL fucking NO. I'd be putting my foot down hard-core. I would straight up be like "this is not happening, and if it does, then you've made your choice". And I'd be out of there. This would 100% be a deal breaker for me. Then, you don't hear from him all night? Don't let the door hit ya in the ass!

I think a lot of us who have been burned by "just a friend" would be thinking the same way. WH and I had these similar discussions when I expressed my discomfort at OW and their "friendship". And I got accused of trying to ruin our relationship by not "trusting" him.

It's a slippery slope. Where there is smoke, there is fire. I'd be taking a long hard look at this whole situation, seriously.