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curiouswiz (original poster member #34405) posted at 5:05 PM on Tuesday, August 20th, 2013
Stillstrong; If you saw how young and stupid she is and how old and sickly he is it would make you do a double take. She wants nothing but the comforts we've built together over the years. She wants to be me. She's tried to be me. heh.
Her sister told me and I've told him countless times that she will be gone when the money runs out or there are problems to solve. Well, I think he finally sees that she will not help him. Or he wants the money so he can call her to see if she will help. Either way he's never been "her problem" he's her free ride.
I know you're trying to let me know to let him rot. Let her help. She won't. I'm so exhausted....
GabyBaby ( member #26928) posted at 5:08 PM on Tuesday, August 20th, 2013
CW, please do NOT give him money. Do NOT read his letters.
Now that he's locked up, he's going to try to pull your heart strings with very heartfelt letters of how he's wronged you and how sorry he is and NOW he sees where he went wrong.
As soon as he gets what he wants (or gets out), he'll be right back to the nasty asshat who treats you like a stray dog in the street.
NC NC NC NC NC!
He is not your problem any more.
((( Curious Wiz )))
Me - late 40s
DD(27), DS(24, PDD-NOS)
WH#2 (SorryinSac)- Killed himself (May 2015) in our home 6 days after being served divorce docs.
XWH #1 - legally married 18yrs. 12+ OW (that I know of).
I edit often for clarity/typos.
dmari ( member #37215) posted at 5:09 PM on Tuesday, August 20th, 2013
curiouswiz, I'm sorry that his letter triggered you. What I noticed when I read it that it is about him. Sure he starts by apologizing and then there is the big "BUT ... lifes goes on" and then it's poor me, give me, me, me, me.
I know you are still struggling about the decision to give him money. I just want to remind you that you have a full plate to deal with right now other than worrying about his snack money.
If you give him money, what do you predict will happen next? How does giving him money help YOU to heal, rebuild and move forward? In the end, it is your decision and we will love and support you no matter what.
SBB ( member #35229) posted at 5:11 PM on Tuesday, August 20th, 2013
He is an addict, friend. He's not using the money for comforts but for drugs.
He is not appealing to you because he's desperate but because you are a soft touch and he has run out of options.
He'll use your money to call junky whore.
The minute he has other options he will go back to being the monster you have been dealing with.
DO NOT ENABLE HIM FURTHER. It is not your fault that he is in jail. Geez - if I could put the sad clown in jail I bloody well would. The problem is *I* can't do that - I have to wait for him to fuck up royally.
This guy has fucked up royally. You're not being mean or uncaring or cruel.
IT IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM.
I would talk to your IC and examine what it is you get out of enabling him.
You're worried about him and you don't want him to hurt but you need to know you cannot save him from himself.
DO NOTHING. It is not your job - it never has been.
I may have reached a point where I'd piss on him if he was on fire.... eventually!!
alphakitte ( member #33438) posted at 5:25 PM on Tuesday, August 20th, 2013
Jail is the consequence of his own doing. He trys to make you feel guilty so you will over compensate and give him what he wants.
He gets what he needs, in jail. He wants you to put $ into the canteen so he can trade for drugs. He's an addict still trying to manipulate you. You must learn to understand this so that you can develop healthy thinking.
------ Some people are emotional tadpoles. Even if they mature they are just a warty toad. Catt
Amazonia ( member #32810) posted at 5:29 PM on Tuesday, August 20th, 2013
curiouswiz, how much money has he stolen from you? How often did you go to the ATM and find nothing there? You don't owe him one red cent. His needs are met by the system; he has meals provided. If someone wants to hear from him, let them put money in his canteen for a phone call. Do you really feel the need to fund his phone sex with OW?
"You yourself deserve your love and affection as much as anybody in the universe." -Buddha
"Let's face it, life is a crap shoot." -Sad in AZ
missmydogs ( member #36559) posted at 5:55 PM on Tuesday, August 20th, 2013
((Curious)) No. He gets nothing after all the foulness and filth he has put you through. He will get essentials in there. Let that pig bail him out. If she doesn't that is his problem. You did not do this. This is a result of his poor decisions.
Spend that money on you. Buy a book. Buy nail polish. Or put ketchup on the money and eat it. Doesn't matter, just do not give it to him.
(((Curious)))
Me 36
DS 16
DD 4
Divorced!
I've made a huge mistake - GOB
his#1 ( member #3432) posted at 5:56 PM on Tuesday, August 20th, 2013
Curious, I don't usually ever post in D&S, but I saw yours and it touched me. I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this.
I wanted to give you a little insight to jail. My son was there for a few months. The jail provides tehm with everything they NEED. The canteen will sell them things they WANT.
Also, if he truly WANTS it bad enough, the jail will gladly put him in a job making about .30 cents an hour (it's been a while since my son was in, so this may have changed, and also I am in Michigan, so your jails may pay differently) that they will put into his canteen for him to spend.
The bottom line is this, if he WANTS it bad enough, he will EARN it. Please don't give him money. He is there for a reason and honest to God, he will NOT learn a darn thing if you feed his WANTS with money. Make him earn it. Ignore his letters AND calls. It is hard. It is INCREDIBLY hard. But by doing so, you could be saving his life.
Tough love sucks. But it also works.
Best wishes
**The soul would have no rainbow
Had the eyes no tears.~J.Cheney
**Oh, my friend, it's not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left. ~Hubert Humphrey
alphakitte ( member #33438) posted at 5:59 PM on Tuesday, August 20th, 2013
Curiouswiz, you aren't strong enough yet to see how being codependent and "helping" WH, by putting $ in his canteen, isn't an act of love.
Putting $ in his canteen will only "help" him to harm himself. The only loving thing you can do is not do that.
------ Some people are emotional tadpoles. Even if they mature they are just a warty toad. Catt
curiouswiz (original poster member #34405) posted at 8:26 PM on Tuesday, August 20th, 2013
Thank you. It has sunk in. It really sucks to be him and I know he's trying to hit me in the heart. He's probably still in shock that I had the nerve to put him in jail.
But I didn't. He did this. All his to own. I do know he will use the money for phone sex...thanks Amazonia! heh that one struck home! I know if I give him a dime it will go in the phone so he can beg her to visit. And I know he probably will get drugs in there.
I'm going to go make a ketchup sandwich with dollar bills as missmydogs suggests!! I'll fill it with ketchup, mayonaise, mustard and a bit of siracha to wash this whole shit sandwich down with! HA! Thanks for that one!
Seriously though, thank you so much. I knew if I asked you'd deliver...I know I'm not thinking straight because of all of the things I have to deal with and I needed your help.
Thank you.
Skan ( member #35812) posted at 2:49 AM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
(((hugs))) The kindest thing that you can do is to let him reap what he has sown. The man you once knew, is dead. He is no more. Grieve your good memories of that man, and leave the shell that is left behind to free-fall to it's own level. And heal up, get some cops to go with you, and reclaim that which is yours. (((more hugs)))
Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.
D-Day, June 10, 2012
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