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hexed (original poster member #19258) posted at 9:17 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
knowing what you know now in your NB, How many of you would have wanted R if your WS had been genuinely remorseful.
Its weird...but I actually feel a smidge guilty b/c I'm glad my X wasn't truly remorseful. I was all in for trying to R in the beginning. Looking back I'm relieved that he wasn't genuine.
Anyone else feel conflicted about the fact that you're glad your X wasn't actually remorseful? How weird am I with this?
But that's just a lot of water
Underneath a bridge I burned
And there's no use in backtracking
Around corners I have turned
“Many of us crucify ourselves between two thieves - regret for the past and fear of the future.” -foulton oursler
lieshurt ( member #14003) posted at 9:18 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
Not me. My exwh was a dick. His cheating was just the cherry on top
No one changes unless they want to. Not if you beg them. Not if you shame them. Not if you use reason, emotion, or tough love. There is only one thing that makes someone change: their own realization that they need to.
hexed (original poster member #19258) posted at 9:22 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
lieshurt --
yeah mine is just a dysfunctional-functional alcoholic
i suppose it would be different if we were hostile towards one another. We're actually friendly. Nothing excuses his cheating but I have to admit I was pretty awful for a good stretch of the M. Very selfish and hurtful to him in a lot of ways. Cheating is his fault. The disasterous state of the M was both of our fault.
But that's just a lot of water
Underneath a bridge I burned
And there's no use in backtracking
Around corners I have turned
“Many of us crucify ourselves between two thieves - regret for the past and fear of the future.” -foulton oursler
ajsmom ( member #17460) posted at 9:23 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
Remorsefulness would have been a good start.
For me to want him back now, he'd have to have had a full frontal lobotomy and a penal transplant seeing I would have no idea where that thing has been.
In all seriousness (cuz I know you did have a serious reason for asking), I really don't think he would have been able to do the work required. You and I share alcoholic X's, hexed, and as you know, fighting addiction is and of itself a losing battle.
Though for our kids, I wish he had made better choices.
AJ's MOM
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Amazonia ( member #32810) posted at 9:23 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
Not for a moment.
When I still talked about the divorce regularly, I frequently found myself telling people that the biggest favor my ex ever did was to be a big enough jerk to push me into therapy and then leave me the hell alone.
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click4it ( member #209) posted at 9:26 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
Oh yeah, I had always wished that my ex-h had been truly remorseful and actually cared that he had FAMILY. I've mentioned before we never had a terrible marriage, so yeah if he had been truly remorseful, and SINCERE about repairing the family, etc. I would have taken him back.
Now, its a moot point. It never happened and its way beyond ever wishing something like that.
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Two boys: 20 and 17
Divorced 12-13-05
d-day 10-02-01
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lieshurt ( member #14003) posted at 9:27 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
he'd have to have had a full front lobotomy and a penal transplant seeing I would have no idea where that thing has been.
No one changes unless they want to. Not if you beg them. Not if you shame them. Not if you use reason, emotion, or tough love. There is only one thing that makes someone change: their own realization that they need to.
movingforward13 ( member #38405) posted at 9:29 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
I would have but mainly because we have a child together.
I wish I got genuine remorse... Mine was hoping I would accept sorry, forget that it happened and let him be "friends" with his AP
He said counseling was abnormal and he wouldn't subject himself to that. Oh how the way wards must protect their ego.
Once a cheater, always a cheater happens when your cheater doesn't have remorse.
Regret is not remorse- know the difference!
hexed (original poster member #19258) posted at 9:35 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
I don't think I made myself quite clear.
I'm glad he wasn't remorseful. I like things better now. If he had been remorseful, well I'd still be with him...yeah...not liking that idea so much.
skip the penis transplant. i got an arm candy transplant with better penis
But that's just a lot of water
Underneath a bridge I burned
And there's no use in backtracking
Around corners I have turned
“Many of us crucify ourselves between two thieves - regret for the past and fear of the future.” -foulton oursler
click4it ( member #209) posted at 9:43 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
whoops, yeah I guess I mis-read your question.
Me: 45
Two boys: 20 and 17
Divorced 12-13-05
d-day 10-02-01
Laughter will cure life's ills. Have you had your laugh today?
Crescita ( member #32616) posted at 9:47 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
I don’t really know how to answer this. If he was capable of remorse he would be a different person, one I never met.
I’m happy with my decision to D. Happy with my NB. Happy to have traded some naiveté for wisdom.
I really have no desire to relive any portion of my life. Live and learn. I’m a linear gal, onward and upward!
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Newlease ( member #7767) posted at 10:04 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
I feel like my XWH really saved me a lot more pain by having a very short time between the second Dday and him filing for D.
I know he would not have made the effort required for a full R. I think if we had stayed together I would have ended up being miserable.
NL
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wildbananas ( member #10552) posted at 10:33 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
Not me. My exwh was a dick. His cheating was just the cherry on top
This.
But seriously, I wonder how things could have turned out if he'd been truly remorseful and dedicated to R, if it would have been better for the bunch. But like Cres said, that would have made him a different person altogether.
I'm glad we're D. One of the best decisions ever for me and the bunch overall.
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hexed (original poster member #19258) posted at 10:41 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
I just feel some guilt over being happy that he didn't really try to work on 'us'.
life is better now. i don't think it ever would have been with him.
i guess idealized the concept of R. i placed a really high value on repairing our M. each false R was so devestating I can't believe i'm here now, relieved he didn't really want R.
But that's just a lot of water
Underneath a bridge I burned
And there's no use in backtracking
Around corners I have turned
“Many of us crucify ourselves between two thieves - regret for the past and fear of the future.” -foulton oursler
Sad in AZ ( member #24239) posted at 10:41 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
I'm a bit conflicted about this. What I know now is that he doesn't have it in him to pull himself out of his depression. He will always take the easy way out. He will always be a KISA. I am glad that I will not have to take care of him in his old age, as he will probably have a stroke at some point because he does not take care of his health. That makes me feel like I took the easy way out...
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cayc ( member #21964) posted at 11:54 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2013
If my xWH had truly been remorseful, then yes, I would still say I would want R despite what I have now. I would not claim to say my life is better now. It's good, but in a different way. Is my life better than with xWH as he was?? Yes, of course. But better than if he had chosen to be real ... I can't say that.
phmh ( member #34146) posted at 12:05 AM on Thursday, August 22nd, 2013
My life is so much better now, it's almost unbelievable. I'm happier now than I was at any point during my relationship with him. At the time, I thought I was happy, but I realize now how much he was dragging me down...from the beginning.
I married him way too young (20 when we met, 22 when we married) and we are fundamentally incompatible people.
I would go one step further. Not only am I so happy that we didn't attempt to reconcile (he refused to sign a post-nup with favorable terms to me if he cheated again) but I am also happy that he cheated as I never would have divorced him otherwise, and I would have just existed, getting increasingly frustrated with myself and my life. I'm pretty sure I would have become an alcoholic to deal with the underlying stress of living with him.
I do feel bad for him. With the combination of his terrible genes and terrible childhood, he didn't stand much of a chance.
I don't feel guilty at all.
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inconnu ( member #24518) posted at 12:13 AM on Thursday, August 22nd, 2013
I am definitely relieved now, and rather happy about it, that R with ex didn't work out. Because I would have stayed married to him for the rest of my life. And there's so much I would have missed out on.
There is no joy without gratitude. - Brené Brown
Weatherly ( member #18222) posted at 12:31 AM on Thursday, August 22nd, 2013
I've said many times I'm thankful he destroyed our marriage so thoroughly. If I thought there was anything to save, I probably would have kept trying, but he made sure there was nothing.
And, I'm so glad. I'm so much happier now than I ever was with him, and happier than i think I ever could have been.
I knew ex wasn't right for me when we got married, but, I said I do, and I intended to stick it out. He made it impossible, so, in a weird sort of way, I'm glad he cheated. He let me go, with no guilt on my part.
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gardenparty ( member #12050) posted at 12:40 AM on Thursday, August 22nd, 2013
I am grateful that he wasn't. I would have felt obligated to at least try to work on the marriage if he was and would have wasted even more time trying to do the impossible, make him happy with himself.
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