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 MairISaoirse (original poster member #41497) posted at 8:32 PM on Sunday, December 15th, 2013

what is the difference?

I started reading the 5 Love Languages and my second love language is "Words of Affirmation", very closely behind "Quality time".

I feel like this is sort of an issue because one of the reasons I went outside of my relationship was for external validation.

Note, I haven't finished the book, and I'm still in the process of learning to look inwards for validation. But I'm curious, as I'm lacking a solid differentiation between the two

Mad Hatter

Me: 21
Him: 21
Together 2 years
my ONS->1 mo EA abroad

after D-Day BF admitted he had broken NC with EXGF (EA)
D-DAY 11/21/13

In Limbo

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standingonmarble ( member #31217) posted at 9:27 PM on Sunday, December 15th, 2013

Affirmation to me is like this:

I love you, you are a wonderful fill in the blank, I couldn't do this without you.

Validation is more like:

You got that right, you figured that out correctly, you can trust your thinking to match reality.

At one time he was a man standing on marbles. Now I am a woman standing on marble.....

We are done fighting with each other and decide to fight FOR each other.

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steadfast1973 ( member #24719) posted at 9:53 PM on Sunday, December 15th, 2013

Affirmation is backing up what you already know, validation is making something seem true. Affirmation is always real, validation may not always be true.

Me- 42- BS Him- 38- WH D-day#1 5/25/09 multi EAs, likely PA, trickle truth, d-day#2 11/06/13 Prostitute Separated 1/2017
"I've seen your flag on the marble arch, our love is not a victory march, it's a cold and broken hallelujah"

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steadfast1973 ( member #24719) posted at 9:53 PM on Sunday, December 15th, 2013

Duplicate post (my iPad hates me).

[This message edited by steadfast1973 at 4:09 PM, December 15th (Sunday)]

Me- 42- BS Him- 38- WH D-day#1 5/25/09 multi EAs, likely PA, trickle truth, d-day#2 11/06/13 Prostitute Separated 1/2017
"I've seen your flag on the marble arch, our love is not a victory march, it's a cold and broken hallelujah"

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gotmylifeback ( member #32693) posted at 11:16 PM on Sunday, December 15th, 2013

MairISaoirse,

Great question and I'm looking forward to read what others contribute. Glad to hear that you are reading the 5 Love Languages and working on yourself.

From what I understand, validation is acknowledging someone; their thoughts, their feelings, etc. It does not mean that you agree with them. It's like trying to show empathy and attempting to put yourself into their shoes. For example:

"I hear you saying that you had a bad day."

"I can understand why you feel that way."

"I'm sorry that disappointed you."

Affirmation is communicating truths, or even your feelings to the other person. They are statements that help build up the other person. For example:

"You look great today!

"Your personality is one of my favorite things about you."

"You worked really hard on that project."

I believe that a healthy relationship needs both. I have read about many WS's say that they needed external validation. They wanted to be noticed, acknowledge. But I think they were also looking for affirmation. They wanted to be told that they were pretty, smart, etc.

And some people have shared that it wasn't enough to get the validation and affirmation from their spouse. Like, that was their spouse's job so it somehow didn't mean as much. It didn't matter if I validated and gave affirmation to my ex. I could tell her, "I'm sorry your parents put you down about your weight. But, I love you and I love your body." However, those statements somehow did not mean as much as when the OM probably told her the exact same words.

There is nothing wrong with wanting affirmation and validation. In fact, I think we all want that. But, who do we want it from (SO, parents, coworkers, etc)? That's where boundaries come into play. But, we also need to be giving affirmation and validation to others. Especially our SO, spouse, and even children.

Her-Unremorseful, Wayward ex wife
Me-No longer a betrayed husband
Happily remarried.

"Even a dead fish will go with the flow. Don't be a dead fish." - my pastor.

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 MairISaoirse (original poster member #41497) posted at 4:29 AM on Monday, December 16th, 2013

thank you for the replies! I didn't realize there was such difference between the two.

I guess it would be more accurate now to say I was looking for affirmation rather than validation

Mad Hatter

Me: 21
Him: 21
Together 2 years
my ONS->1 mo EA abroad

after D-Day BF admitted he had broken NC with EXGF (EA)
D-DAY 11/21/13

In Limbo

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