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What happens in emdr therapy?

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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 3:14 PM on Monday, July 28th, 2014

Can anyone who has done it describe what a session is like? And did it help you? What issues - infidelity, etc. - did you focus on during your sessions?

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yearsofpain25 ( member #42012) posted at 3:20 PM on Monday, July 28th, 2014

Hi Jana. I have a thread going over in Off Topic here:

http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/forums.asp?tid=536753

where people have asked me to document how my EMDR therapy is going. I just started last week and the first session is a get to know you session. Thu night this week will be my first with some actual EMDR treatment and we are going to start with the topic of growing up without love from my mother. Nothing like a light topic for starters but she says oldest baggage first. Apparently I have a lot of baggage.

She did notice in my first session that I was rubbing my forehead and grabbing at my neck quite a bit. She asked me if I felt pain there as I was talking. I did feel like I had a headache coming on and my neck was stiff. Apparently EMDR treats the physical symptoms as well as the emotional and mental. My IC deals with a lot of combat vets and EMDR is supposed to be very good with the mind movies too which is why I searched for someone trained in EMDR.

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lotsexperience ( new member #37612) posted at 5:13 PM on Monday, July 28th, 2014

I'm a psychologist who uses EMDR therapy as my primary treatment psychotherapy and I've also personally had EMDR therapy for anxiety, panic, grief, and “small t” trauma. As a client, EMDR therapy worked extremely well and also really fast. As an EMDR therapist, and in my role as a facilitator who trains other therapists in EMDR therapy (certified by the EMDR International Assoc. and trained by the EMDR Institute) I have used EMDR successfully with panic disorders, childhood sexual/physical/emotional abuse and neglect, single incident trauma and complex/chronic PTSD, anxiety, depression, grief, body image, eating disorders, phobias, distressing memories, bad dreams and more.

You can read a description of the process of EMDR therapy here: <http://www.emdrnetwork.org/description.html>

One of the initial phases (Phase 2) in EMDR psychotherapy involves preparing for memory processing or desensitization (memory processing or desensitization - phases 3-6 - is often what is referred to as "EMDR" which is actually an 8-phase method of psychotherapy). In this phase resources are "front-loaded" so that you have a "floor" or "container" to help with processing the really hard stuff, as well as creating strategies if you're triggered in everyday life. In Phase 2 you learn a lot of great coping strategies and self-soothing techniques which you can use during EMDR processing or anytime you feel the need. So if you start feeling overwhelmed or that it's too intense, you can ground yourself (with your therapist's help in session, and on your own between sessions) and feel safe enough to continue the work.

In my practice, after the Phase 2 work lets us know that my patient is safe enough and able to cope with any emotion and/or physical sensation both during and between EMDR processing sessions, I often suggest we try a much less intense memory first if there is one that happened BEFORE the trauma(s). If there isn't one, then I suggest we start developmentally with the least disturbing memory and work our way "up" to the most disturbing event(s).

Grounding exercises are indispensable in everyday life, and really essential in stressful times. Anyone can use some of the techniques in Dr. Shapiro's new book "Getting Past Your Past: Take Control of Your Life with Self-Help Techniques from EMDR." Dr. Shapiro is the founder/creator of EMDR therapy but all the proceeds from the book go to two charities: the EMDR Humanitarian Assistance Program and the EMDR Research Foundation). Anyway, the book is terrific. It's an easy read, helps you understand what's "pushing" your feelings and behavior, helps you connect the dots from past experiences to current life. Also teaches readers lots of helpful techniques that can be used immediately and that are also used during EMDR therapy to calm disturbing thoughts and feelings.

One of the key assets of EMDR is that YOU, the client, are in control NOW, even though you likely were not during past events. You NEVER need re-live an experience or go into great detail, ever! You NEVER need to go through the entire memory. YOU can decide to keep the lights (or the alternating sounds and/or tactile pulsars, or the waving hand, or hand/knee tapping - all forms of bilateral stimulation that should be decided by the client for the client's comfort) going, or stop them, whichever helps titrate – measure and adjust the balance or “dose“ of the processing. During EMDR processing there are regular “breaks” and you can control when and how many but the therapist should be stopping the bilateral stimulation every 25-50 or so passes of the lights to ask you to take a deep breath and to say just a bit of what you’re noticing. The breaks help keep a “foot in the present” while you’re processing the past. Again, and I can’t say this enough, YOU ARE IN CHARGE so YOU can make the process tolerable.

Pacing and dosing are critically important. So if you ever feel that EMDR processing is too intense then it might be time to go back over all the resources that should be used both IN session and BETWEEN sessions. Your therapist can use a variety of techniques to make painful processing less painful, like suggesting you turn the scene in your mind to black and white, lower the volume, or, erect a bullet-proof glass wall between you and the painful scene, and so forth. There are a lot of these kinds of "interventions" that ease the processing. They are called "cognitive interweaves" that your therapist can use, and that also can help bring your adult self's perspective into the work (or even an imaginary Adult Perspective). Such interweaves are based around issues of Safety, Responsibility, and Choice. So therapist questions like "are you safe now?" or "who was responsible? and "do you have more choices now?" are all very helpful in moving the processing along.

In addition to my therapy practice, I roam the web looking for EMDR therapy discussions, try to answer questions about it posted by clients/patients, and respond to the critics out there. It's not a cure-all therapy. However, it really is an extraordinary psychotherapy and its results last. In the hands of a really experienced EMDR therapist, it's the most gentle way of working through disturbing experiences.

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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 5:45 PM on Monday, July 28th, 2014

Thanks yop and lotsexperience, that is really helpful. I maybe should have posted this in off-topic but I'm sure if I went we'd talk about the infidelities. What's weighing on me now is recurrent miscarriages, I'm bitter and angry and want to lash out constantly. I don't know if EMDR would help with that, but I'm not myself. And the emotional effects of the miscarriage grief is bleeding into other parts of my life, and my marriage.

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tired girl ( member #28053) posted at 5:52 PM on Monday, July 28th, 2014

It has helped me considerably Jana.

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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 7:59 PM on Monday, July 28th, 2014

Thanks TG I'm glad it helped you. I love my IC but I have heard so many people talking about EMDR - I just wonder if that might help me work through these feelings.

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DixieD ( member #33457) posted at 8:01 PM on Monday, July 28th, 2014

It helped me process some feelings Jana, like anger. Life saver really.

I say go for it.

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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 8:08 PM on Monday, July 28th, 2014

God, I'm full of anger. That's my biggest problem.

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WabiSabi ( member #43489) posted at 4:31 AM on Friday, August 1st, 2014

Thank you, lotsexperience, for taking the time to share all of that!! That was so helpful.

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MegM ( member #34941) posted at 4:43 AM on Friday, August 1st, 2014

Hi Jana

I have not experienced EMDR therapy but my therapist used TRE (trauma release excercises) My understanding is they use some different methodologies but are related to similar base theories.

I highly recommend TRE and by reports here in SI I see people have had a LOT of success with EMDR.

For a point of comparison TRE uses stretching and repetitive exercise (related to yoga) to replicate a 'shake' that helps reset the individual neurological memory / experience of the trauma.

I am beginning a course again as I think it will help settle some of the triggers that have started in the last couple of months (of which have not occurred for over a year).

In case you want more info Here is the Aus site which has links to others:

http://www.traumareleaseexercises.com.au/

best wishes.

Meg

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