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 EEJJ (original poster member #44731) posted at 6:11 AM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

Well, Dont think Im quite ready for the new beginnings just yet, especially with the latest in my story so figured I would throw this on here in General now.

Continued from my div/sep thread. YOP, yeah I got the police involved and also my lawyer now. Lawyer will be doing something tomorrow and I guess the police was gonna call her as well. All for a dam key!!! What a waste. I advised the officer even apologized for wasting their time, but they did not go out to the home. I told them I didnt want any scenes due to my kids being at her place.

I really reached the boiling point tonight though!!! Really having a hard time calming down with the way it has affected family members tonight. For what, for a dam key??? I will be begging god in my prayer tonight!!!!!

Continued from my Divorce/seperation thread

http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/forums.asp?tid=550646

BH...ME WW 38
Beautiful DD and great DS!!
dday 8.7.14
Status: Divorced 3.6.15
"God gives his toughest tests to his strongest soldiers"
"Sometimes you don't need to hear their excuses because their actions already spoke truth&

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goingtothrive ( member #45486) posted at 6:51 AM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

((((EEJJ)))) Soooo...she left the car in your driveway without a key becaaaause....? I don't get it. What does it mean? What's the point?

So you called the police to do what?

How are you feeling right now? Better? Deep, slow breaths.

Dday Dec. 2012
Divorced Dec. 14, 2014
M 17 years
1 DS 17
He married OW. Now she has the same last name as me and my son, and it makes me sick.

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OK now ( member #14459) posted at 1:01 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

She's realized her objective; to make you mad and very upset. Sick woman. Her life's a misery and she can't blame herself so....

If she texts you tell her you are divorced and these texts are somewhat tiresome, considering you couldn't give a damn whats happening to her and you don't personally care if she's unhappy or content. Tell her to move on and quit harassing you; she has about as much relevance has a fart in a gale.

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 EEJJ (original poster member #44731) posted at 5:23 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

I have no idea what her objective is here. Apparently I'm going to have to take care of everything. how does someone just leave a car in somebody's driveway and not leave keys? Makes no damn sense but its obvious I now have to handle everything in regards to the vehicle. now I either have to pay for a tow truck or keys for this remote start vehicle. I am fuming since last night. She is really really pushing me now.

BH...ME WW 38
Beautiful DD and great DS!!
dday 8.7.14
Status: Divorced 3.6.15
"God gives his toughest tests to his strongest soldiers"
"Sometimes you don't need to hear their excuses because their actions already spoke truth&

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Notthevictem ( member #44389) posted at 5:30 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

wow, wishing you strength. Show the kids the best way to deal with shit like this in case they have to one day.

BH
DDAY Mar 2014
Widowed 2022 - breast cancer

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Skan ( member #35812) posted at 6:42 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

One step at a time, brother. One step at a time.

Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.

D-Day, June 10, 2012


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goingtothrive ( member #45486) posted at 8:56 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

I am fuming since last night. She is really really pushing me now.

You know what? THAT'S HER OBJECTIVE!!!! I just got it. So, let's give her the opposite. Contact the dealer and get a key ordered. This will cost some money. My keys cost about $250.00. Document everything. Then, for 40$ take her to small claims court. If the judge sides with you, he/she will include the $40.00 with your award. What do ya think?

Dday Dec. 2012
Divorced Dec. 14, 2014
M 17 years
1 DS 17
He married OW. Now she has the same last name as me and my son, and it makes me sick.

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 EEJJ (original poster member #44731) posted at 8:58 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

Im slowly calming down. Thank you.

So apparently she has already looked into a replacement key and cost and emailed me all the info. Very nice of her. Even offered to meet me at the dealer to being the key to make a duplicate. Oh but I cant use the key to move the car though.

Please god..... (sigh)

BH...ME WW 38
Beautiful DD and great DS!!
dday 8.7.14
Status: Divorced 3.6.15
"God gives his toughest tests to his strongest soldiers"
"Sometimes you don't need to hear their excuses because their actions already spoke truth&

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goingtothrive ( member #45486) posted at 8:58 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

Oh, before filing you have to show that you tried to get the other party to pay. So you'll need to send maybe two certified letters asking for reimbursement. She will ignore them. But you will have documentation that you did everything you could.

Dday Dec. 2012
Divorced Dec. 14, 2014
M 17 years
1 DS 17
He married OW. Now she has the same last name as me and my son, and it makes me sick.

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goingtothrive ( member #45486) posted at 9:02 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

She confuses me.

Dday Dec. 2012
Divorced Dec. 14, 2014
M 17 years
1 DS 17
He married OW. Now she has the same last name as me and my son, and it makes me sick.

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 EEJJ (original poster member #44731) posted at 9:25 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

If your confused Goingtothrive, I am completely lost

Im trying to follow the saying "ignore the problem and it will go away", but its difficult when there is a vehicle in the drive way in the way

BH...ME WW 38
Beautiful DD and great DS!!
dday 8.7.14
Status: Divorced 3.6.15
"God gives his toughest tests to his strongest soldiers"
"Sometimes you don't need to hear their excuses because their actions already spoke truth&

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yearsofpain25 ( member #42012) posted at 10:31 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

Not that I want to play armchair psychologist, but to EEJJ and other's who don't understand just what he's dealing with. EEJJ's ex is so much like me NPD mother it's quite eerie. Frightening actually. I have seen EEJJ's ex's behavior up close and personal. In fact, and I could be totally wrong because what do I know...but EEJJ's ex is the only person here on SI that I personally honestly think has NPD or at the very least has strong narcissistic tendencies.

This latest dumping the car in your driveway is about control. Pure and simple. My mother still does stupid shit that makes you scratch your head and it's been 20 years. She just will not let it go.

Here's a little nugget that I dug up by Kim Saeed that I think describes pretty well what you have been seeing EEJJ and what you can expect in the future. Of course I could be way off and wrong and I hope I am.

Can a Narcissist Move On?

These are search terms that come up on my stats page quite frequently. Readers want to know if a Narcissist can move on from their relationships. Honestly, it depends on the depth of their Narcissism and typically depends on one factor:

Whether they left you or you left them.

Narcissists are all about power and control. If they leave you after devaluing and discarding you, they’ve retained the power in their mind, so they can leave the relationship without a second thought. Although, overt narcissists will often keep you strung along for years while they go on to start a life with their new partner, leaving you in a state of limbo for years if you don’t go No Contact.

However, if you leave them first, they will go on a revenge campaign that will make you question your very reason for existence. If you happen to have children with them, it’s best to prepare yourself for Dante’s circles of Hell, circa 4-9.

In fact, their hatred for you will seem as fresh five years down the road as when you first left. There are generally three modes of operation that the Narcissist will engage in after you cut off the relationship.

1. Stalking and Harassing – The Narcissist will use every tool available to them in an attempt to get you back under their control. There are two main reasons for this. The first being that they want you back because you’ve been excellent supply and they don’t want to lose that. Secondly, it’s very possible that they want to enact the devalue and discard phase so you will be left feeling like the most worthless, vile waste of a human being…ever. To them, revenge is the ultimate victory, especially if your self-esteem is left in scraps in the process.

When it comes to the pathology of a Narcissist, expect anything. They will, and often do, hire Private Investigators in addition to monitoring you themselves. They will attempt to plant spyware on your phone and computer. That’s why it’s important that you don’t let them into your new house or apartment after initiating No Contact…well, that and the fact that you don’t want to give them the opportunity to break your resolve by allowing them to assume their brainwashing techniques.

2. The Smear Campaign – The manifestation of this revenge tactic depends on your circumstances at the time you leave. If you share a wide circle of mutual friends, expect your reputation to be tied to the bumper and left in rags. You will certainly find out who your true friends are during this phase. But don’t be discouraged. The Narcissist has been fooling people in their world for years. In fact, consider yourself enlightened as you are able to peel away people from your life that aren’t as genuine and loyal as they once seemed.

If you don’t share friends at the time you leave, that doesn’t matter to the Narcissist. They will find ways to casually infiltrate into your new social circle in an attempt to plant seeds of doubt. Be on the lookout for the Narcissist being added to the “friends list” of people you have on your own social networking sites. If that happens, delete those people from your list.

Unfriend

3. Harassment through the Court System – If you have children with the Narcissist, expect an ambush. Lies and drama will be the agenda and they will do whatever necessary in an attempt to take away what means the most to you, your children. Not because they care about them, but because it’s the ultimate way to cut you off at the knees.

Their New “Love”

Regardless of how your relationship ended, they will have no qualms about starting a new one with someone else. They will give the appearance that they’ve moved on, but if you left them first, you can bet they are plotting ways to make you pay. This will come across as innocent banter to anyone who listens to them. They have a sly way of discussing you while making it seem they couldn’t care less about you or your new life, but inside their own mind they are seething with hatred and dreams of revenge.

The reason they can acquire a new partner in such a short amount of time is because 1) there is always someone out there who is codependent and waiting for someone to prove their worth to, and 2) the Narcissist cannot survive without supply. Regardless of what it looks like, they are not in love with the new partner. This is sad because Narcissists are so skilled in acquiring new targets who will become the new punching bag (emotional and otherwise). As such, there’s no need to be jealous of the new love in the Narcissist’s life.

Their “Change of Heart”

Often, even when the Narcissist has acquired a new source of supply, they will still come around from time-to-time. The reasons for this vary depending on the Narcissists’ pathology. However, it’s important to remember that if your Narcissist has a new partner, yet returns to your door, it has nothing to do with love, but can include the following:

They want to ascertain that they still have control over you and your mind. This assures them that you are still in queue in case you can benefit them later.

They remembered they have a few late bills that need to be paid, and need to create the illusion that they care about you so they can cry on your shoulder in order for you to bail them out.

They want to make you feel badly about yourself, so they convince you to let them back in, only to tear you down even more. An example of this would be their getting you to be intimate with them, only to call you “slut” and “whore” and leave you in tears afterwards.

The new supply is somehow out-of-service, but the Narcissist needs a fix.

You are their property and they will do whatever necessary to make sure you don’t start a relationship with someone else. If you do, expect them to attempt to destroy it.

As you can see, the Narcissist typically doesn’t move on. If someone is out of their life for good, it’s because the other person chose that, not the Narcissist. Granted, there are cases where the Narcissist moves on, but it’s typically if they were the ones to leave a relationship first or if they’re the cerebral type. It means they have found other sources of sufficient supply, which include the new partner and likely new side-supply. More importantly, they have completely destroyed their former target financially, emotionally, and on the soul-level and the target cannot possibly be of further use to the Narcissist.

The real question here is…can you move on? Can you let go of the abuse; of the toxic relationship and rise above it all? Can you choose your own happiness over someone that will never love you? Can you overcome any codependency issues you might have and realize your own worth? Can you let go of the fear and surrender yourself to God and the Universe? Can you close the door to heartache and open a new door to your authentic self?

eta - even though your exWW stepped out of the M first, you were the one that left her. No doubt she wanted you to chase. That never happened so ^^^^ that is now happening.

yop

[This message edited by yearsofpain25 at 4:35 PM, March 25th (Wednesday)]

"I remind myself of this. I am a survivor. I have taken all this world has dished out and am still here. So there is no reason to be afraid. Whatever happens, I will survive. So now onto living. It is time for me to thrive." - DrJekyll

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yearsofpain25 ( member #42012) posted at 11:01 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

In the middle of helping my kids with homework...but of course I have more to say.

Also wanted to let you know that you are not alone EEJJ. With the help of SI and my IC, I "emotionally divorced" my mother last year and have been NC since last May. I have seen her try and use the smear campaign on my just as she did with my father before me. She sent me a letter this past summer where she played her favorite card. The victim card. Went on and on about how I was being mean and poor her. She was spitting venom but all it did was reinforce the fact that I'm making the right decision in my life to go NC.

I have also been talking to one of my cousins. Of course she is still bad mouthing my father and has now added me to that list saying that I have taken my father's side in all this, that I'm a hateful person, how she's the victim, and me me me me me me me me me me is all that comes out of her mouth. I had the pleasure of telling my cousin the truth about my mother and everything that my mother has been up to. I backed it all up with examples that my cousin has seen herself. Boy did her eyes get big and she realized everything that I said made perfect sense. Even about my aunt's (my cousin's mother) role in my mother's A.

When asked, I will forever set the record straight of what is truly going on with my mother and back it up with truthful examples. It sucks that I even have to do that at this point in my life, but at the same time it feels good to set the record straight when my FOO had been so abused by her.

Hang in there EEJJ.

yop

"I remind myself of this. I am a survivor. I have taken all this world has dished out and am still here. So there is no reason to be afraid. Whatever happens, I will survive. So now onto living. It is time for me to thrive." - DrJekyll

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Sunrising ( member #44065) posted at 11:23 PM on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015

EEJJ

I've followed you story from the start and just want to say even though Somedays it dosnt feel like it your doing just fine. You've stood tall and strong throughout all of this crap.

Given the car on the drive is the one that needs selling (if I'm not mistaken?.) Could you obtain a new key from a dealer or go to a locksmiths who do car keys and are sometimes a bit cheaper and sell it to pay off the loan on it?. To help keep your credit score good?. That way she's kind of done you a favour and so very kindly helped you out to sell it by bringing it to your drive. Perhaps then she'll think twice next time before doing stoopid shit like that, as she's doing it like yop said for control. Show her she ain't got that on you no more!.

Stay strong

Sunrising

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 EEJJ (original poster member #44731) posted at 3:32 AM on Thursday, March 26th, 2015

Sunrising thank you.

Vehicle more than likely will be returned to the bank. I will have to voluntarily turn it back in more than likely. I regained myself and am myself again. Did hit a major nerve though.

I get many messages thanking me for continuing to post my story and how it helps others so I continue to do so, at the same time it helps me cope with some of the hard moments as everyone here knows.

I just want to move on and be left alone, but as many of my close SI fam has said, prepare myself and I am now seeing why.

Heres another one for everyone. So Ex bought a new car. Throughout our marriage she would always complain about me always getting black cars. Last car we got her was black. She used that as one of the excuses of our marriage problems, not letting her pick a car color and how she hated black cars now because I always bought black vehicles and blah blah blah!! Well ladies and gentlemen, anyone want to guess on what color vehicle she just bought? ...............................

Anyone??

Yup.....ITS BLACK!!!!!! WTF

as the brother ALLATSEA put, you cant fix crazy but you can sure document it!!

BH...ME WW 38
Beautiful DD and great DS!!
dday 8.7.14
Status: Divorced 3.6.15
"God gives his toughest tests to his strongest soldiers"
"Sometimes you don't need to hear their excuses because their actions already spoke truth&

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 EEJJ (original poster member #44731) posted at 7:15 PM on Thursday, March 26th, 2015

The comedy show continues. She has contacted the court and she is now trying to get me for contempt of the court. She has warned my lawyer about this also.

To be continued. ....

BH...ME WW 38
Beautiful DD and great DS!!
dday 8.7.14
Status: Divorced 3.6.15
"God gives his toughest tests to his strongest soldiers"
"Sometimes you don't need to hear their excuses because their actions already spoke truth&

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OngoingProcess ( member #40635) posted at 9:19 PM on Thursday, March 26th, 2015

She's a train wreck. Expect anything and everything to be said and happen. But keep on as you have been - calm cool and collected. The minute you let her get to you is the minute she feels she has won.

I wonder if we can set our ex's up. I think they would make a great couple. A couple of psychos...

Multiple DDays Oct '08 to Oct. '09
Same AP
Papers served 7/23/10
Divorced and Delighted 12/12/12

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goingtothrive ( member #45486) posted at 9:29 PM on Thursday, March 26th, 2015

now trying to get me for contempt of the court

Sigh....on what grounds?!

Dday Dec. 2012
Divorced Dec. 14, 2014
M 17 years
1 DS 17
He married OW. Now she has the same last name as me and my son, and it makes me sick.

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 EEJJ (original poster member #44731) posted at 1:59 AM on Friday, March 27th, 2015

Well I guess me ignoring her means I am not following court orders. I advised her that she had to contact my lawyer and she said she would not because the divorce was done and she did not have to contact my lawyer anymore. So today she emailed my lawyer to threaten the contempt of court. she actually got the court involved

Ongoing I hear you. Im trying and got myself back together Now.

Yop I dont know how I missed what you posted. Wasnt there when I checked earlier ill read that now brother

BH...ME WW 38
Beautiful DD and great DS!!
dday 8.7.14
Status: Divorced 3.6.15
"God gives his toughest tests to his strongest soldiers"
"Sometimes you don't need to hear their excuses because their actions already spoke truth&

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goingtothrive ( member #45486) posted at 2:05 AM on Friday, March 27th, 2015

The only thing you should have to talk to her about are the children....right?

Dday Dec. 2012
Divorced Dec. 14, 2014
M 17 years
1 DS 17
He married OW. Now she has the same last name as me and my son, and it makes me sick.

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