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realitybites ( member #6908) posted at 1:58 PM on Thursday, April 18th, 2019
I called my attorney and asked what he thought. He suggested I approach the company in which the shares were held, show them the evidence that I have a legitimate and legal interest in those shares, and ask them to provide you with an update on their disposition. So I did.
On 4-11-19 they wrote me back and informed me xWH cashed out our shares in November 2017 in the amount of $1.9 million. He had the money wired into an LLC in OW's name in another state.
I am not an attorney, but I would say the cat is very definitely out of the bag, because that company right now just got informed that THEY were scammed by your WS and his OW into sending money into an LLC that was not signed off by both parties who owned the shares. So I would assume that the company itself has now talked to its lawyers to see how THEY can protect themselves from a potential lawsuit from you or your lawyer for releasing money without your permission.
I won't even pretend to advise you what to do, but fraud is fraud. You might not be able to get any money back, but he and his OW could possibly end up in jail.
Is your attorney an expert in this kind of financial fraud? He may need to refer you to someone who can explain it to you much better.
Half of $1.9 mil is $950,000.
I think that company is now scrambling to cover their own ass. Or go after your WS and OW as well, I think you should seek advice from someone who is very knowledgable about this kind of financial deviousness. Your WS and his OW may have even forged your name for all you know...
Thats alot of $$$$. I don't think this is going to go away. So sorry.
Crazy, just crazy.
Stop expecting loyalty from people who cannot even give you honesty.
He stopped being my husband the first time he cheated. It took me awhile to understand that I was no longer his wife.
WornDown ( member #37977) posted at 2:05 PM on Thursday, April 18th, 2019
Wow. That's crazy.
He may be hiding the cash, be he won't be able to hide other assets as easily - like his house and the Lambo. You should be able to repo those (eventually) and sell them.
Yes, for $950K you do need to follow through on this.
Me: BH (50); exW (49): Way too many guys to count. Three kids (D, D, S, all >20)Together 25 years, married 18; Divorced (July 2015)
I divorced a narc. Separate everything. NC as much as humanly possible and absolutely no phone calls. - Ch
IslandGirl4418 ( member #63198) posted at 5:07 PM on Thursday, April 18th, 2019
The law is on your side. You have proof that half belongs to you and you have proof that he took it all. Try to calm down and be patient. He will not get away with it in the long run and never give up!!! He stole your money!!!
Age: 65
Married: 27 yrs.
D-Day: 6/9/2017
Divorce Final: 12/10/2018
HalfTime2017 ( member #64366) posted at 7:26 PM on Thursday, April 18th, 2019
call me crazy, but I'd be hiring a new attorney just about now.
I'd be going after EWH, the OW, the company that negligently gave him your shares, and potentially your own divorce attorney.
Judges do not look kindly to a spouse that commits financial infidelity, even if he blew a huge chunk of the funds, your exH would owe it to you. You obviously need to be careful if you think he'll resort to violence, but would he really hurt his own children? Seems like he's just after the money and giving you the bird. I'd go after him with all you got using the law, which it sounds like is on your side. I'd go after the whole lot of them.
alphakitte ( member #33438) posted at 12:11 AM on Friday, April 19th, 2019
So I would assume that the company itself has now talked to its lawyers to see how THEY can protect themselves from a potential lawsuit from you or your lawyer for releasing money without your permission.
According to IDoExist
we . . . entered into a secondary agreement that establishes we will share the proceeds from the future sale of those shares
It doesn’t sound like the company was at fault as it appears the shares were in ExH’s name with a private agreement between IDoExist and the ExH.
------ Some people are emotional tadpoles. Even if they mature they are just a warty toad. Catt
k8la ( member #38408) posted at 2:29 AM on Friday, April 19th, 2019
HalfTime - this ex HAS hurt the children before, depriving them of needed medicine and endangering them in many other ways. He can and would do just about anything, and IDE is absolutely on point to be nervous as hell about taking action. She's in a damned if she does/damned if she doesn't because if she doesn't smack him down into place, he gets more bold. And if she takes action he gets dangerous. Either way, she has to be on guard.
[This message edited by k8la at 10:46 PM, April 18th (Thursday)]
I_Do_Exist (original poster member #24196) posted at 3:30 PM on Friday, April 19th, 2019
Yes, yes, and yes to the clarifications you have all pointed out.
Yes, xWH is absolutely dangerous and would (and has) hurt our children. So much so, at one point a judge signed an emergency order suspending his visitation because his behavior IN HER COURTROOM DURING A HEARING was so troubling, she felt our children were in imminent risk if they were in his care. He eventually lost custody altogether and now he can only see our children when I allow it. His mental illness is untreated and he is deeply troubled.
And yes, the company did not know about our secondary agreement. My attorney and I decided to not inform them on the front-end that we had the agreement for several solid reasons. It may have been a mistake in hindsight . . . or not. We felt it was a calculated risk to simply lay low on the issue of money and not involve a lot of people who, in turn, may help xWH hide the transaction.
Plus, remember, I've been locked in custody litigation while all of this was happening. It simply wasn't on my mind.
I'm pressing forward. xWH knows we know. I'm taking precautions. I have an amazing support team. This is all I can do.
I really appreciate the advice of getting an attorney who has expertise in financial fraud. My current attorney said the same thing. Right now we're pursuing this in family court in an effort to quickly get a Judgment and lien everything we can find, but we think there may be a criminal case on the other side of things that would include OW.
As I type all of this, I still can't believe this is happening. It's like a bad movie.
Me: BW 46 determined & healing
Him: xWH 48 bipolar & NPD
Ours: 20-year marriage and 2 beautiful school-age daughters
2007-2013: 2 d-days; 2 secretaries in their 20s; 2 attempts at R
2015: D-day 3 w/secretary 3; game over; divorce final Oct 2015
alphakitte ( member #33438) posted at 4:11 PM on Friday, April 19th, 2019
IDoExist, I am soooo concerned for you. I will keep you in my thoughts.
------ Some people are emotional tadpoles. Even if they mature they are just a warty toad. Catt
devotedman ( member #45441) posted at 4:15 PM on Friday, April 19th, 2019
I know nothing about the legal end of it, which you seem to have received good advice on. I do wish you the best of luck, and safety, with all of this mess.
Me: 2xBS b 1962 xWW after 2 decades, xWGF after almost 1.
Amelia Pond: Who are you?
The Doctor: I don't know yet. I'm still cooking.
ENFP-A. Huh.
Adlham ( member #53358) posted at 4:24 PM on Friday, April 19th, 2019
IDE, I will be sending energy out into the universe that a criminal case can be pursued,in addition to your family court case, with the goal of a positive outcomes in your favor!
I'm glad you have a good support system in place. Stay safe.
There is NO need to have that “one last conversation” with a toxic individual in your life.” The closure will come when you look deeper inside yourself. It’s not your job to fix someone when they are unwilling to fix themselves.
Robert22205https ( member #65547) posted at 5:48 PM on Friday, April 19th, 2019
It's just a civil action vs criminal with respect to your x.
However, it may be different with respect to the OW. I suspect her participation (conspiracy) may be viewed differently than your X.
Talk to your attorney about possible criminal charges against the OW. It may give you just the edge you need to confront a bully.
knucklehead ( member #2041) posted at 2:43 AM on Sunday, April 21st, 2019
Hello IDE. I tried to PM you, but you are at your limit. In more ways than one, actually.
I can recommend several avenues for you to pursue on this using existing US and local laws on financial crimes. Please feel free to PM me, but I strongly suggest a meeting with the Financial Crimes and Money Laundering units of the FBI, coupled with the USPS Fraud unit. Yes, USPS. You would be surprised how aggressive they are in pursuing fraud committed via the USPS, which includes mail and wire fraud, and they are dogged.
I will hold you and your children in my prayers tonight.
"The argument that one doesn't have to take responsibility for what comes out of ones mouth because one has gone through something is bullshit." My good friend Archy. Archy for Prez!
iamweasel ( member #65930) posted at 4:05 AM on Sunday, April 21st, 2019
Never treat truth as the enemy, even if you don't like what it's telling you.
Chrysalis123 ( member #27148) posted at 3:55 AM on Monday, April 22nd, 2019
OMG...I.do.exist
I have no expertise in any of this.
Just been around a long time. Please be careful. Guys like this like to permanently erase anyone that gets in their way.
I know you know this and are being supremely careful. Know we are all behind you!
Someone I once loved gave me/ a box full of darkness/ It took me years to understand/ That this, too, was a gift. - Mary Oliver
Just for the record darling, not all positive changes feel positive in the beginning -S C Lourie
I_Do_Exist (original poster member #24196) posted at 7:37 PM on Monday, April 22nd, 2019
Knucklehead: Sending you a PM. Thanks for letting me know my PM was saying it was full . . . working to resolve that now. Thanks!
Me: BW 46 determined & healing
Him: xWH 48 bipolar & NPD
Ours: 20-year marriage and 2 beautiful school-age daughters
2007-2013: 2 d-days; 2 secretaries in their 20s; 2 attempts at R
2015: D-day 3 w/secretary 3; game over; divorce final Oct 2015
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