So many questions.
My husband is here, too, posted in the Wayward side. I hope I'm allowed to say that. He really wants feedback. He has no stopsign on his post. His name is Rizziedizzy.
His post contains most of his life story. I will start with when we met.
He was amazing and wonderful to me. I had just gotten out of a marriage with a man who had multiple EA's (no PA's that I know of). My ex-husband truly did everything wrong. He blamed me for the affair, refused counseling, made excuses "we're just friends", trickle-truthed, continued to lie, etc etc etc etc.
When I met my now-husband, he immediately struck me as so different. First of all, he is so smart, and we could (and still can) have long conversations about anything and everything. He told me the truth about a lot of things right away. But also hid a lot of things from me. Because he told me these truths, I thought he was someone that was very honest and truthful. He was also the guy that remembered every little detail about you, that surprised you with things, and the guy that was ALWAYS where he said he was going to be when he said he was going to be there. He always called when he said he was going to call. If he was going to be late he would let me know. He put in so much effort into our relationship. I fell, and hard.
At six months in, he broke up with me very suddenly. I didn't take it well. In fact, I lost a few friends over it and ended up in trouble a couple times at work because of it. This is the first time I realized I'm a bit dependent. This was the very first time I had been living alone. I was with my ex-husband since I was 15 years old. He was controlling, so I had never really learned to take care of myself. I never thought I COULD take care of myself.
I learned quickly that I could. When I moved out, I bought my own place, did my own finances, etc. That helped me build a lot of confidence.
Anyways. I pestered my now-husband/then ex-boyfriend for a week to tell me why he broke up with me. He finally confessed that he cheated on me, with one woman, and said a lot of things. A lot of things like "I'm a cheater, a horrible person, you don't want me, you don't want to be with me, you deserve better, I'm better off dead" etc.
At this point I became very concerned and there was probably some trauma bonding or whatever its called. Anyways I got him to a clinic where he was diagnosed with a sex addiction, depression, and anxiety. He got prescribed some medication and counseling.
A week or so later we got back together.
A month or so after that came the true D-Day. He showed me a message from an old hook up in his phone (an attempt to show me things and be truthful) but I didn't like how he had worded the text and we fought. I asked to see his phone. He handed it to me and I went through it and....holy God. He had never deleted anything and I felt like I was going to throw up. So many women. He had cheated on me so many times before he broke up with me. There was not just one woman. There were many. He had sex with many women while we were broken up. But the majority of it was messages seeking sex. Girls he had met off of various dating apps, websites, etc. Pictures, text messages, etc.
I realized the problem was a lot bigger. We went through his whole phone. Afterwards, he said he felt better that it all came out.
I did NOT find anything incriminating since the day we got back together. Not since the HOUR we got back together, to be exact. I suppose its possible he could have deleted it. But I'm not sure why he wouldn't have deleted everything.
He did continue to message his ex a few times, as they had been talking when we had broken up, but he had told her we had gotten back together, and there was nothing inappropriate in the messages. A lot of talk about cars. Lol.
So we bought several books about sex addiction, read them, he continued to go to counseling, and we had nightly talks. At this point we were still long distance. He told his father, his sisters, and he flew to see his mother and told them all that he has a sex addiction, about the childhood abuse, and the incest. His mother said nothing, just cried.
Things went really well. He moved in with me. We found a counselor in my area and started couples counseling, but he stopped going individually (first mistake, I think). We went together every week for quite a while but after a while things were so good that we slacked and stopped going except when something would come up (a trigger for me, usually) and we would head back.
He was great about all of it. He never ever blamed me, never argued with me, always took responsibility for his actions. I was always allowed to go through his phone at any time and he never complained about this. He deleted several apps off of his phone at first but over time we got lax about this. He didn't drink alone, any rule I made he happily agreed to and even said he liked it because it was "insurance" for him. He got tested for every STD once a month for like 6 months until he developed a fear of needles LOL.
We fell into life. We bought a house. We got married. We fixed up our house which is still not done. We paid off TONS of debt and got both of ourselves into a better financial situation. He worked his way up in jobs until he now makes great money. We fixed his credit score which is now great. (He had ruined his life due to his sex addiction, he never had any money because he spent his days texting girls instead of working)
He paid off his back child support. We developed a great relationship with his baby mama and we have his son every other weekend. He's now a better dad and more actively involved in his son's life.
We've gone on several vacations. We've just...lifed. Lol.
A few things came up here and there but nothing too terrible. A few months ago he messaged a girl that is a friend of a friend to ask if her and her husband wanted to hang with him and myself sometime. The message itself was fine, but he admitted that his intent behind talking to her was shaky and that it kind of scared him.
Now finally on to whats happening now. He sent a message to my best friends sister via Instagram and insinuated she should come over. I was in the hospital at the time. He was drunk. He fully admits and fully admitted as soon as I asked him that his intentions were to have her over for sex. He does not think he would have done it sober. He is not sure if he would have gone through with having sex, and how can anyone be sure? He doesn't have a lot of answers for what was going through his head, probably because he was drunk.
Obviously, I'm very upset, and so is my friend. I had to find out from my friend. I'm mostly upset that he didn't confess to me on his own.
I told him he needed to tell me everything and be honest. He said I knew everything. I then logged into his Twitter account. Nope, hadn't been honest about everything.
He did not chat with girls or anything but he just made a bunch of gross comments on girls pics about their boobs. He was not seeking out sex and frequently mentioned his wife in his posts. Its just....gross. I told him this.
Because I told him I needed complete honesty and he didn't tell me about the Twitter account (although he did delete the Twitter app off his phone and planned to never use it again), I now feel like I can't trust that he will be honest with me about things moving forward and that he hasn't been honest with me about everything else. He said he NEVER planned to tell me.
He swears he has never had sex with anyone since we got back together. He even went through several girls and asked me. Girl x? I said no that was when we were broken up. Girl y? I said no, that was before we broke up. Girl z? I said no, that was also before we broke up. He is terrible at remembering, probably because there are so many.
I chose to forgive him when we got back together, and I have done a lot of work moving passed that initial trauma, because he is SUCH a different person now. But if he's had sex with someone and withheld it from me, or lied to me about other things since we got back together? That's the part I will be upset about. I've always always always told him, if you fuck up just tell me. I'll likely forgive you if you tell me honesty. Its the lying that hurts the most. But he doesn't tell me!!!!!!!
Anyways here we are. He is going to IC twice a week, started two weeks ago.
He is going to do a full STD panel tonight at the walk in clinic, for my peace of mind.
I have booked a polygraph test on Thursday evening for $800 (!!!!!!!!!!!) I get three questions. WH says he will happily pay this for the price of my peace of mind for the rest of our marriage.
We both wish for R. I love him so very much and can't imagine my life without him.
He is not the same, romantic person I met in the beginning. I do not know why. He is....muted? I don't know another way to explain it. He does not show his emotions. But he is still good to me. We do not fight much. We usually talk it out. He has NEVER called me a name. Ever. He has never sworn at me, ever. He is good with my son. He is sweet to me, always brings me tea in the morning, etc. We laugh together. I think we've always had a good sex life. Although for him I know he doesn't feel the connection as much during, but afterwards.
Anyways. Advice I am seeking-
I have read so much conflicting advice. Some say that in order to move on you must get the polygraph so you know for sure, you must give control of electronics, etc. Others say that is codependent and enabling behavior and he is the one who has to change. It isn't my responsibility to monitor his every move and it isn't my responsibility to coerce him to tell me the truth.
So I'm asking for advice on what to do. Should we proceed with the polygraph? He seems very confident he will pass and isn't concerned. The $800 will hurt us but I agree with what he said, it might be worth it for piece of mind.
The STD testing is giving me so much anxiety because I already have health anxiety. At this point I think I believe he hasn't slept with anyone. But I don't want to put my health at risk so he's going to do this. I will also get tested at my next check up which is soon.
He will continue with individual counseling. He has been listening to a lot of podcasts and reading a lot.
I'm so scared. I know we are CAPABLE of moving past this. But I want him to feel empathy and emotion and show me that. I think he gets caught in the self-hate and shame spiral so much that he forgets to think about MY feelings. I also think he overthinks things to the point of insanity, lol. He questions himself so much. He is so scared of failing. Which makes me scared. We have built such a life together. I'm just so sad.
I'm sorry for the book. Thank you for listening and any advice is appreciated.