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 loser0 (original poster new member #35625) posted at 8:08 AM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

My BH says he is disgusted by me. I can understand why but what I dont understand and he isnt really talking to me much, is why does he stay with me? I dont want to force him to stay with me but I also dont want to make him stay with me if he is disgusted by me. Im sure all the BS's in here felt dsgusted with their WS too so Id like to know why did you stay with someone who disgusted you? Is it because he loves me so much? is it for our kid? I just want to make him feel better. I dont want him to be disgusted by me, it makes me feel like Im not worth anything. I know I made him feel this way I know I brought this on us Im staying with him no matter how I get treated. I realized on dday just how much he means to me. What does You disgust me really mean?

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Diva0702 ( member #32309) posted at 8:22 AM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

As a BS, I believe it could possibly mean that this is another expression of pain that is in some way self protective. If he is 'disgusted' with you, that'distances' his very painful emotions from you to a degree. In other words, he can look at your behaviour objectively rather than having it so painfully close. He wants you to FEEL some of what he feels, and although of course that isn't physically possible, he really does feel that disgust that you could so trecherously damage your relationship.

It is a HUGE attack on the ego, and that deeply damaged self esteem dictates these powerful feelings.

Tell him you understand how awful that must feel, for him to be so disgusted with what you've done, and tell him you respect his need to protect himself from further damage at this time.

Continue to be humble, and offer any assistance to help your H with his emotional roller coaster, because that is exactly what it is, and he feels that he can't get off.

He is still with you because he wants to be. If he really didn't care, he would have left you standing in your own excrement. Your feelings must be put aside at this time in order to help your H heal. That won't happen if you continue to perceive that his feelings are persecuting you.

I wish you both much luck, love, and future happiness on this difficult journey.

Me: BW 53
Him: FWH 47
4 wonderful grown children
2 beautiful grandchildren
Married 20 years
Together 23 years
Dday March 10 2010. 4 yr A.
Me: RGN(ret), N.Dip.,BA(Psych),MA (Psych),BA Music.
OW: 55 year old taxi driver

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HardenMyHeart ( member #15902) posted at 8:59 AM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

What does You disgust me really mean?

He is actually more disgusted and what you did than you personally. However, he is suffering and the anger is talking. When someone is angry, they want the person that caused the damage to be punished. As a result, he lashes out with words that he know will hurt you.

My suggestion the next time he lashes out; tell him you are sorry for what you did and even more sorry for hurting him. If he will allow it, give him a hug and tell him you will never hurt him like this again.

Me: BH, Her: WW, Married 40 years, Reconciled

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painpaingoaway ( member #27196) posted at 9:28 AM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

Hi loser0, welcome to SI.

I'm not sure when your D-day was, but it sounds recent. If your BS has just now found out about your A, he is in excrutiating, unbearable, gut-wrenching pain. Most probably, he will say the most vile, hurtful things you may have ever heard come out of anyone's mouth. And, chances are, it's not going to end anytime soon.

In my case, my FWH's behavior WAS disgusting, and he did disgust me beyond belief. (he gave me her STD) Even to this day 3 yrs later, when I think about it, I am still disgusted.

In the early days after discovery, I stayed because I was so confused and afraid, I was incapacitated. All I did for the first few weeks was to scream at him, dig for more info, scream some more, and sleep. That's all I was capable of. It was like I was a vicious wounded animal, only capable of primal emotions and behavior.

When the initial shock and fear eased slightly, then I saw a lawyer, and moved out. It was then that I just barely began to think straight.

He is staying because: 1) he is not quite sure what he is going to do yet, he is still processing the info. 2) he loves you. If he didn't love you, he would not be hurting so badly.


D-Day June 2009
Watch my movie: "My wayward husband's adventures in STD land":
Episode 1: youtu.be/9Jv0-d_CdYc
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 loser0 (original poster new member #35625) posted at 9:56 AM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

Thank you diva. I went in and told him almost exactly what you said. I added that we can get through this that he can get through this and that I am here to help him heal. I also thanked him for staying with me. I feel really bad for not being able to come up with those words myself. After I made that post I went into the room he was in and tried to talk with him and he told me I was a horrible person. Since dday I have been a different person I am completely honest with my BH and everyone around me and my BH rules my world I have realized even though he did alot to hurt me in the past that I had no excuse to do what I did. I used to always run away from my problems and now I dont and I used to lie to avoid conflicts and to avoid responsibility for ym actions and now I dont. I am trying so hard to ba a better person in all ways but he always tells me I am doing nothing. I know fix thyself but it is so hard to do when I broke the person that I always relied on for support in everything I did. It has been only 7 months since dday I know I will need to hear him say alot more horrible things about me. It is just so hard to fix myself and help him heal when this happens because I feel like I should just die then he wouldnt have to ever look at me or hear my voice and cringe with disgust. I cant tell him what he needs to hear so far and I know he feels like I am taking to long to say it. I wish I knew the perfect words that would make him feel better and sometimes I have to read SI to learn how to express myself.

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forever.haunted ( member #28645) posted at 11:47 AM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

He is disgusted at your actions during the A, and bewildered that you could do such a thing...

an A is disgusting within itself.

My fwh disgusted me for a long time because he hurt me so bad...but I loved him dearly and toughed out those bad times...until I could see the good in him again.

BS/Madhatter

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broken81 ( member #36774) posted at 12:05 PM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

He is disgusted by you, that you could be the kind of person to do that and that you actually did it.

I was very disgusted by my WH. The thought of touching him repulsed me sometimes. The thought of him being this total low life creep grossed me out.

But those feelings fade over time, as I realize the changes he has made are staying. Also as I work on separating him from who he was and who he is now/becoming. So there is hope that your BS wont always see you this way.

I stay because he is my person...I need him to be the one to help me heal. I told him from the beginning. I might not want you to touch me and I will turn away and it will hurt your feelings but please dont quit trying and just hold me anyway. I need it even if i dont want it.

I also stay because I love him , he wasnt always a horrible person and has worked hard not to be a horrible person anymore.

[This message edited by broken81 at 6:07 AM, November 4th (Sunday)]

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him fWS
M 8yrs 2 kids
DD 2/12 lies until 4/12
2.5 yr A with an OLD married whore
working on R

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Tred ( member #34086) posted at 12:40 PM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

It's perfectly normal to feel emotions such as disgust in the BS and still stay in the M. At seven months out, he is probably in full swing in the anger stage. It's probably as confusing to him why he stays as it is for you. He's probably still trying to figure out how you could have an affair instead of giving him an honest divorce. For some people it's a pretty hard concept to grasp that their spouse stayed with them and yet shared their bodies, their emotions, risked their families health (read PPGA's story), and probably the whole time acted as if there was nothing wrong in the M. It's possible you are equating disgust for the actions vice disgust for the person, even though at times I agree they tend to overlap. The best advice I can offer is to talk to him, be empathetic to him, he's probably as confused as you are.

Married: 27 years (14 @JFO) D-Day: 11/09/11"Ohhhhh...shut up Tred!" - NOT the official SI motto (DS)

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unicornsearcher ( member #912) posted at 1:15 PM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

Along with the other insightful comments, I add this food for thought.

Whle it may not necessarily be true in all cases, in ours & many others, the more the love then the deeper the agony from a DDay hit. I loved my WS with all my being pre-DDay & I was beyond disgusted with what he did, him, myself & the while situation.

And while it is also not true in all situations, it is a gift to be able to get full truth, which is often pretty dang ugly after DDay. Just the sight of my BS was a horrible, horrible trigger.

I meant it when I told my WS that he made me feel like I need to rub my skin raw with Clorox just thinking or talking about what had happened. Sometimes, I vomited, others I had to run to the shower where I cried. It was almost literally unbearable. On our one month DDay anti-versary after DDay, I made a serious suicide attempt.

If while attempting reconciliation, your BS is telling you how he feels, it can be indicative that he wants it to be a team effort to work on making things better TOGETHER. Otherwise, as you say, why be there?

It is also common for the BS not to be able to be extremely articulate or talkative about it all, espeically if they weren't one to be very communicative prior to DDay. That alone, doesn't make one better automatically able to express emotions or even be able to identify them. And there is often quite a bit of confusion & a ton of contradictory feelings that result from the betrayal trauma.

None of that means that you are not worth anything, that is a lie. And one that if you dig into will just create even more harm to you, to your BS & to your relationship. Your challenge is to put into actions proof of the opposite, because what is true is that you are worth a lot, as is your BS & the relationship. Showing that you are learning to better value yourself, your BS & the relationship is a very healing & worthwhile journey.

What helped me a lot was to have my BS validate my ugly feelings by indicating that he understood why I felt disgusted, verbally or not, & that he was there for me. Sometimes he would apologize yet again for putting me thru that mess. Sometimes, it would just be a gentle squeeze of my hand, a hug or he would write me something that I could hold on to that showed he was doing what he could to aid me in dealing with the damage. My WS being able to be understanding, patient & loving during that time made all the difference.

It also helps to talk out what your BS wants / needs when he starts to get overwhelmed with those feelings, when he is able to do so. Or write to each other about it, because communicating in whatever ways work for you two is what matters most.

Sometimes, the BS may be wanting to be left alone for a bit or the opposite, to have you nearby. And what is needed / wanted can dramatically change literally second to second.

One second I would not want to even see or hear my BS, yet a few minutes later, I would want to have him sit next to me.

It's terribly confusing not just to the WS but the BS too. A tsunami of horrible, conflicting emotions in a non-ending attack was what it felt like to me.

Sometimes there was simply nothing my WS could do to make it better, as the past can't be changed. But the present & future can & often is.

During those dark days, weeks, months & years, it was often hard to believe we could survive it together or that we should stay together. Yet, ten years later, we are still together & wouldn't have it any other way. While being together isn't the only option, its the best one for us, & we appreciate the gift it is for us individually & jointly.

The infidelty is an extremely long, ugly chapter in the our journey together, but it's not the whole story by any means. It left its scars & impact, but it simply couldn't erase or deny the beauty of what did have prior to the truth being put on the table, what we can & do create together or the fun in doing so.

Unlike Hurricane Sandy, which was a storm of epic proportions which could not be deterred or controlled, the DDay trauma is easily avoidable. Like any major storm, people act in certain ways which have certain consequences not just on them, but those that love them, who may lose them or seeing them badly hurt or worse. I was deeply saddened & distressed at what WS did to himself by his betrayals of him, me & "us". I didn't know if he would keep self-destructing with bad choices or be able to see what needed to be done to best protect himself, me & "us".

When a disaster is about to happen, such as a hurricane with which a warning that all hell may break lose, people have to decide what to do, sometimes very quickly. It is similar to infidelity in that a person has many steps to take, consciously or not, that will have a significant impact not just on themselves but those to whom they matter as well.

Some people decide they will not put themselves in harm's way early on so they prepared to get away & stay away. Just as some people draw a very rigid line with their boundaries toward the opposite sex or any form of betrayal.

Others took longer to acknowledge the real danger or failed to make the right choices quick enough, so trying to protect what they valued became much harder to stay safe. Because those that did clearly see the right choices, immmediately left or gotten what they needed to bunker down in order to stay safe together. By the time some decide what they need to do & finally take action, the choices they had before simply may not be available to them any longer. There are many shades of infidelity as well, flowing from inappropriate boundaries causing inappropriate sexual banter to one night stands to long term affairs.

Others refused to acknowledge the coming devastation; thought there was no reason they shouldn't make poor decisions while denying what they were really subjecting themselves & their loved one to. That mindset did not change the obvious great harms that were possible & probable, even as they refused or were unable to fully accept the warnings of what they were going to be in for if they didn't take proper heed of the chance they had to get themselves out of harm's way in the best way possible.

Likewise, some WS's convince themselves that what they are doing doesn't really matter for a variety of reasons. For example, that "the OP never meant anything to me, it was just sex" excuse. So they allow themselves to keep crossing lines they shouldn't, when it will be extremely hurtful & disgusting to the BS when they find out.

Betrayal is very similar in that some people stay far, far away from being hit by the infidelity storm, others think they can flirt & delay taking a stand early on. There is always a number of people that think or convince themselves that their betrayals won't really matter when the BS discovers its been going on. They mistakenly think is something they can & want to do with the false belief that it will be a mere inconvenience at most, but are willing to risk it all on staying someplace mentally / physically that they should & could have avoided subjecting themselves & their loved ones to enduring. And they are truly shocked thier partner reacts as they do when the storm finally hits full blast.

Just as the BS is often truly shocked that their partner could do such a thing. Infidelity brings up an immense amount of ugly truths & feelings. Disgust is very frequently part of that, unfortunately.

Like with all sorts of major storms or other trauma, some will get thru it, some will have done permanent damage to themselves and/or have a a loved one lost forever. Not all relationships survive once DDay hits with its great fury & great harm but many do, just as people weather other storms too.

All who are were caught up in a storm, whether one of nature's making or by infidelty have to make choices on what its impact will ultimately have. Some have few or little choices afterward as to whether or not rebuilding, repairing, or improving is possible, by sorting thru the million steps it will take to do that in a good way.

It is impossible to do alone if in a partnership with unilateral decisions, just like with the betrayal impact on a relationship or partner. The fact that you are seeking out knowledge & advice to help you better understand your BS, indicates that you do desire to help him "weather the storm" in your lives right now. That's a giant step in the right direction!

Also, in your case L, it is still very early for you guys -- so what is going on today isn't indicative of what you can have by this time next year.

Creating something solid & worthwhile to protect, is not an overnight, automatic process in a lot of things. Certainly, the betrayal trauma & creating a loving, healthy & deeply connected partnership isn't.

Some people that are suffering from the impact of Hurricane Sandy will take the opportunity to assess what they had & what is best for them to create from the rubble. Same for any relationship equally impacted by its own storms. There is a lot of needed effort that will have to take place in order to make a good recovery in any sort of storm. Trying to deal head on with your BS's disgust is one of those efforts which can have great rewards for both of you, & your relationship.

Feeling they are not worthy of having something beautiful, fulfilling, solid & well cherished will slow the process to achieve what can be down considerably, or even permanently prevent it from taking place at all.

Your user name indicates how horribly you feel about the storm you let into your home, hearts & lives. Making poor choices isn't at all indicative of your true worth. Or the possibilites of wonderful things being deserved by you in the journey of the entire story of your life either, if you don't want it to be.

My WS made his poor choices in some part due to his lack of love for himself or feeling worthy of a relationship worth having in which he mattered. It was a disasterous mindset that nearly destroyed him, me & "us". He still struggles with it, after decades of abuse prior to meeting me. It is a demon that may always wait to pounce on him, but I hope that ultimately he can not just move past that but to be able to fully conquer that personal hell.

What he did with his betrayals, to me, is indicative of his lack of character, value, morals & priorities ONLY at that time. A lot of factors played into that. One of the most important was not facing his feelings, fears, insecurities or issues as he has worked on since. Another important factor was his not communicating or being fully honest even with himself but instead taking lots of steps of disconnection / contamination away from our relationship while not being able to see or understand the horrible impact on our relationship as a result.

People stay together for a lot of reasons, some good or not. Just like your disasterous actions need to be placed in proper context of your entire relationship history, so do your BS's. His horrible feelings now are a piece of the puzzle of his relationship with you & himself. But even if your relationship prior to the betrayals had serious issues, that is not indicative that you guys are limited only to what dynamics played out between you before anyway.

Life is static, there is always room for improvement & now is certainly the time to work on having a healthy, loving, passionate partnership together. It can be done, with or without the betrayal trauma impact, with the tons of resources available, commitment & willingness to make that a valued priority.

I suggest if you haven't checked out the wonderful Retrouvaille yet, to do so. There is a link in healing library. It can be an awesome jumpstart to creating & maintaining a close, healthy partnership that is a joy filled one. We have benefited from that, as have many here in the SI family.

[This message edited by unicornsearcher at 11:15 AM, November 4th (Sunday)]

11/02 Busted WH 4+ cheating yrs, 11/06 Busted [Month Long Lustfest]. 2/1/08 admits false version of betrayals, so no full disclosure / "whole truth" yet. '09 Together, great work in progress. '12 Still gladly united.

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sodamnlost ( member #37190) posted at 1:23 PM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

I struggled with this BIG time in the beginning and still do sometimes :-( I had several days in a row I couldn't even look at my WH. It was like seeing someone else and he disgusted me to say the least.

I stayed for many reasons. I love that idiot with every fiber of my being. Even in all the anger, hurt, betrayal and pain - I knew who he was to me before the A. I couldn't see him as the man I loved but knew that man was still in the shell of a human my WH had become. I stayed because I knew making a decision so soon would be a dumb idea. My moods changed by the hour in the beginning so I was just so unstable. I stayed because I kinda lost it and couldn't function in daily life. He picked up my slack.

How my WH helped - he didn't avoid me even though I was nasty to him and he knew how I felt. He slowly showed me the sides of him that don't disgust me. Most days I can look at him now. I still have many moments for sure though. Just getting a grasp on just how flipping long this process will be :-(

Me - BS original Dday 10-2012, separated June 2014, divorce Fall 2016


Grief, loss and pain taunt her - "you will never be the same." Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes, she rises and spreads her new wings as she brushes off the ashes an

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Crushed38 ( member #30644) posted at 2:11 PM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

It's so hard to understand the rollercoaster of emotions we, as BSs, feel. I can remember looking at my FWH (and still do sometimes a year after dday) and thinking: who the fuck is this guy, this man is my best friend for 20+ years? With a frend like him, who needs enemies?

Your husband's disgust in you is completely normal. Are you guys in MC? IC?

ETA: It sounds like your fog has lifted and you are committed to your marriage now. Just because you are seeing more clearly does not automatically put him in the same place. You need to let him feel the emotions he feels, listen to him, comfort him, and keep doing the hard work to regain his trust in you. The road to recovery after an A is long and painful. The timeline for the BS is two to five years. Buckle up. It's gonna be a bumpy ride.

[This message edited by Crushed38 at 8:21 AM, November 4th (Sunday)]

It's amazing that someone can break your heart and you still love them with all of the little pieces. -unknown

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Missymomma ( member #36988) posted at 8:07 PM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

We are over a year since DDay and I still feel disgust for my fWH, occasionally. Sometimes when I look at him it just overwhelms me. It is hard to reconcile the person you thought your WS was and who they actually are. We have had this discussion many times and he is just now starting to get that I am conflicted. I both love him and am disgusted by him. Over time and hard work the disgust lessens. When he acknowledges that what he did was disgusting and he understands why I feel that way, that he is disgusted with himself, then that helps. Slowly, there are times now that I look at him and just feel love. The more he works on changing the more I feel love and less disgust. Just keep working on yourself, it sounds like you are really on the right path. Keep it up if you want R!

DDay - 6/15/11
R started - 7/1/11
False Discl- 9/27/12
Real Discl - 2/12/13
Poly - 3/1/13 Pass!
Me - BS (46)
WH - 52 (SA, NA, WA)
Kids: 2 littles and 1 grown
The road to recovery is long and hard. Some days I am up for it and others not!

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Angelstar5 ( member #35276) posted at 8:36 PM on Sunday, November 4th, 2012

i often look at my fWH with disgust. i dont always tell him what i'm feeling but early on i did at every oppurtunity.

What he did was disgusting. It made him disgusting, and made me feel disgusting (sometimes i still feel like this) that i let him use me as a doormat and still stayed with him. I felt as cheap as his hooker..except she was worth 500.00 an hour. He returned my diamond necklace to get cash to fuck her (my xmas present) so i wouldnt notice the missing money, then took his xmas bonus to buy me an ipad. I never use that ipad, it disgusts me also.

Give it time...like i said im still disgusted with him, myself and things pertaining too the A. Its been since April 1rst or so that i found out.....

Me 56,WH 55alcoholic/Married 25y
2 kids age 16 and 28
DDay #1-7/3/94 hooker, DDAY #2,2/10/12 found 100's of calls to a hooker gaslighting begins. DDay#3 3/26/12 proof/TT DDay#4 3/28/12 weekly sex with 2 hookers Dec-Feb. Several EAs

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