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 Laura28 (original poster member #28997) posted at 11:49 AM on Saturday, May 11th, 2013

Hi everyone

Was reading DragnHeart's recent posts about genetic testing for her children and thought I would post in the hope that others whose children have this condition might see mine.

BIG HUGS DragnHeart.

About 1 in 5000 have Marfan Syndrome so I guess the likelihood is small that anyone on SI can relate but doesn't hurt to ask.

My DS (22) is 6'6" and it looks like he has it. We saw the specialist on Friday and his aorta is now at 42mm. DD's (26) aorta has been stable at 29mm since 2009 so good news there.

The specialist is advising against genetic testing at this time for a whole heap of reasons including because it is very expensive and often not conclusive. He is advising waiting a while until the recent losartan trials are finalised and testing processes improve.

Anyone out there with experience? Would love to get in touch.

Infidelity is shit but when your kids have a life threatening illness it is so much harder.

HUGS to all with sick children

Laura

Married 42yrs Me BW 68Yrs Him F?WH 70yrs OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted. Dday May 28 2010. OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA 16+ years). OW2 2002(8yrs PA). OW3 2009(1Yr PA). Others?? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck 'em"

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Amazonia ( member #32810) posted at 11:56 AM on Saturday, May 11th, 2013

A good friend of mine has Marfan. He has not had a good time of it, unfortunately. His twin brother passed because of it several years ago. He has a heart or lung condition (? I forget the details) and has recently had three or four surgeries for detached/detaching retina with limited success.

His wife is also my friend, and it's hard watching her post the updates (he can't use a computer because of the surgeries/recovery). She remains, I don't know how, one of the most upbeat and positive people I know. Grace of God, I guess.

I will ask her if there are support groups out there like SI. If so, I'll pass that info along to you ASAP.

(((Laura)))

"You yourself deserve your love and affection as much as anybody in the universe." -Buddha
"Let's face it, life is a crap shoot." -Sad in AZ

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 Laura28 (original poster member #28997) posted at 12:11 PM on Saturday, May 11th, 2013

Hi Amazonia

Thanks so much honey - I am amazed at the support of this community. BIG HUGS to you for your prompt reply.

DS has had both lungs collapse and surgery to hold them up. (2007 and 2010 - 2 months before dday!!! )

Both DS and DD have scoliosis, severe short sightedness, joint hypermobility etc. Fortunately no retina detachment as yet.

Thanks for the suggestion re support groups. To be honest I think I am coping better being a little being in denial about the Marfan - When I found out about the Marfan in 2007 my world fell apart. After trying to deal with this the discovery of the infidelity in 2010 nearly killed me. I realised I needed to hold it together for the children. So I suppose one of the main reasons I have chosen to stay with FWH is because of the kids and the Marfan. I'll take whatever support I can get - even from him.

We see the specialist each year who is an aussie expert so I have faith in him.

Saw him on yesterday so I guess I am a little down.

Thanks sweetie

Laura

Married 42yrs Me BW 68Yrs Him F?WH 70yrs OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted. Dday May 28 2010. OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA 16+ years). OW2 2002(8yrs PA). OW3 2009(1Yr PA). Others?? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck 'em"

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Gottagetthrough ( member #27325) posted at 12:24 PM on Saturday, May 11th, 2013

I don't have experience with marfan, but I definitely get staying with your Wh for support.

Hugs

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 Laura28 (original poster member #28997) posted at 12:44 PM on Saturday, May 11th, 2013

Gottagetthrough

Thanks honey.

Laura

Married 42yrs Me BW 68Yrs Him F?WH 70yrs OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted. Dday May 28 2010. OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA 16+ years). OW2 2002(8yrs PA). OW3 2009(1Yr PA). Others?? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck 'em"

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authenticnow ( member #16024) posted at 12:51 PM on Saturday, May 11th, 2013

(((((Laura)))))

DS, you are forever in my heart. Thank you for sharing your beautiful spirit with me. I will always try to live by the example you have set. I love you and miss you every day and am sorry you had to go so soon, it just doesn't seem fair.

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 Laura28 (original poster member #28997) posted at 12:56 PM on Saturday, May 11th, 2013

authenticnow

Thank you!!

Laura

Married 42yrs Me BW 68Yrs Him F?WH 70yrs OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted. Dday May 28 2010. OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA 16+ years). OW2 2002(8yrs PA). OW3 2009(1Yr PA). Others?? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck 'em"

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nowiknow23 ( member #33226) posted at 1:49 PM on Saturday, May 11th, 2013

((((Laura & kids)))) Sending you strength and comfort.

You can call me NIK

And never grow a wishbone, daughter, where your backbone ought to be.
― Sarah McMane

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DragnHeart ( member #32122) posted at 9:50 AM on Sunday, May 12th, 2013

Big Hugs right back at you Laura28

I'm so sorry you're going through this. I don't know anything about Marfan syndrome but I think anything that affects our children is the toughest thing to deal with.

((((((((((Laura28)))))))))

Me: BS 46 WH: 37 (BrokenHeart911)Four little dragons. Met 2006. Married 2008. Dday of LTPA with co worker October 19th 2010. Knew about EA with ow1 before that. Now up to PA #5. Serial fucking Cheater.

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 Laura28 (original poster member #28997) posted at 10:09 AM on Sunday, May 12th, 2013

Thanks DH

Only those of us with sick kids get this shit. Especially when the problem is genetic, has long term implications and is inherited.

I suppose it is like infidelity. Until it happens to you it is so hard to understand how it feels.

BIG HUGS to you and your kids.

Laura

Married 42yrs Me BW 68Yrs Him F?WH 70yrs OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted. Dday May 28 2010. OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA 16+ years). OW2 2002(8yrs PA). OW3 2009(1Yr PA). Others?? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck 'em"

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avicarswife ( member #35799) posted at 11:05 AM on Sunday, May 12th, 2013

My aunt, cousin and one of my cousin's 2 sons have Marfan Syndrome.

My aunt who is in her late 70's was the first in our family that we know of who have Marfan Syndrome.

Both my aunt and cousin have had cardiac surgery - mitral valve. My cousin died a number of years ago and his wife took their kids overseas and we don't have any contact.

Whilst my aunt has had a number of surgeries she has and continues to live a very full life.

On D-day:BS 46 (me)WH 50
Toasted22M 26 yrs,3 kids (16-24) at discovery. D-Days 2012 23-24 May + TT D-Day 2013 12 Apr
mOW #1 EA yrs PA Feb 2009-end 2011
mOW #2 EA months PA 4 mths 2010
mOW#3 PA once
2022 Separated

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 Laura28 (original poster member #28997) posted at 11:32 AM on Sunday, May 12th, 2013

Thanks avicarswife

Both DS and DD have mitral valve problems. Time will tell I suppose.

The Prof is talking about surgery in the next few years for DS for his aorta. DD should be OK as her aorta seems stable. The Prof has not mentioned surgery for their mitral valves so I suppose they must be OK at present.

I guess the aorta problems take centre stage with me because they are so scary. At the first clinic we went to in 2007 I met a couple who had two daughters with them for investigation. Their third daughter had died from an aneurysm at 18 years old 3 months before. The two daughters they had with them were very tall and thin and drop dead gorgeous. I had done some reading on Marfan syndrome before the clinic but talking to them sent me into shock when I fully realised the implications.

What also freaks me out is the inherited aspect.

How do you tell your kids that THEIR children could be born with a life-threatening illness and multiple health problems?

They are both very clever and I think they have probably googled but they refuse to discuss it. I am torn between the urge to make sure they realise the implications and the desire to not spoil the lives they have now.

It is a shitty illness. I know my kids are so much better off then many who have youngsters whose illnesses cause serious problems daily. Mine seem well and fit at present while so many others don't have that. The "time bomb" aspect really gets to me at times.

Whilst my aunt has had a number of surgeries she has and continues to live a very full life.

Thanks for your info.

I suppose I can only hope for advances in the research and treatment.

Thanks again.

BIG HUGS

Laura

Married 42yrs Me BW 68Yrs Him F?WH 70yrs OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted. Dday May 28 2010. OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA 16+ years). OW2 2002(8yrs PA). OW3 2009(1Yr PA). Others?? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck 'em"

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girlsbird ( member #30877) posted at 4:42 PM on Sunday, May 12th, 2013

So many hugs to you and all the special needs Mom's out there.

I frequently care for kids with Special needs and I see how hard it is for all of you. Each and everyone has a special place in my heart, thoughts and prayers.

Recently lost a long time client (5.5 yrs with this little one) and felt like I had lost one of my own.

Although not Marfan this 8 yr old touched my heart in a very special way.

((((Hugs))))

D-Day 10/28/10..almost admission 7/10 Reconciled. I was the betrayed

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wildbananas ( member #10552) posted at 8:28 PM on Sunday, May 12th, 2013

I don't have experience with Marfan but do follow this blog written by a woman who lost her first daughter to it:

http://oursunshineangel.com/

I know she has links to some resources on there. Hope it helps.

Travel light, live light, spread the light, be the light. ~ Yogi Bhajan

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Take2 ( member #23890) posted at 10:10 PM on Sunday, May 12th, 2013

Well I likely have Marfan's.

I can't imagine how scary to have this situation with your child though. I have had no symptoms thus far but I do have all the physical markers, though I am only 5'8")and it is in the family

My Dad had Marfans and had numerous aneurysms, before he passed at the age of 76. (not due directly to Marfans) His first aneurysm was aortic at the age of 50, and scary as hell - it was unexpected. But once they knew what they were looking at - they monitored him very closely and stayed on top of it.

His father and grandfather likely died due to aneurysms before Marfans was on the radar, both over the age of 50.

My eldest brother has already dealt with the first aortic surgery at the age of 50. This was 15 years ago. Monitoring is ongoing for a leaky valve in the hopes the keyhole surgery will be perfected meantime, no other issues before or since.

There are 8 of us kids, 6 of us are tall and slim, long-limbed, little fat to speak of, high arched pallet...etc. We're all aging. I am number 7 - at age 54, so far so good. But I do have the aorta monitored every few years.

Never went for the genetic testing, I work off the presumption that it is a potential issue and monitor.

My niece is planning to go for some sort of base test that once completely she said could be used as a comparison for the rest of us. Presumably with just a simple blood test from family members they draw a comparison to her results. I do know that due to my brother's (her father's) aneurysm they recommended a C-section for her when she had her children. I had both my girls naturally (no issue)...

It can be confusing - no doubt, but know this - the survival rate with surgery is immensely increased when it is not an emergency procedure, and they are learning more everyday, coming up with better, less invasive procedure -- monitoring is key!

((Laura28 and kids))

T2

"We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us." Joseph Campbell...So, If fear was not a factor - what would you do?

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 Laura28 (original poster member #28997) posted at 9:38 AM on Monday, May 13th, 2013

wildbananas

Thanks for the link to oursunshineangel honey. I started to read it but got teary pretty quickly. I will get back to it when I can. Such a sad story.

Take2

Thanks so much for your info honey. I suppose the stuff you hear about or read online is all for those who have crises. It is great to read about a family that has it but has been able to enjoy a relatively "normal" life. I recently heard that a local woman with Marfan (aged about 30) died from an aneurysm. I know she was being monitored and surgery was planned but news like that sends me into a panic.

The children both live about 250 miles away. They have awesome lives. They are very intelligent, social and have lots of friends. I actually posted a pic of them in F&G:

http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/forums.asp?tid=495798&AP=61&HL=28997

My son worries me though. He has been advised against doing weight training but insists on doing it. Having said that, I often think I would prefer he lived and enjoyed his life and died young rather than wrapping himself in cotton wool and being miserable. I find it hard to stand by and bite my tongue when I know he is doing things he shouldn't. But he is 22 and knows the risks so I have to leave it up to him.

Anyway, thanks again for your story. I really appreciate it.

HUGS

Laura

Married 42yrs Me BW 68Yrs Him F?WH 70yrs OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted. Dday May 28 2010. OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA 16+ years). OW2 2002(8yrs PA). OW3 2009(1Yr PA). Others?? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck 'em"

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Amazonia ( member #32810) posted at 1:29 AM on Wednesday, June 26th, 2013

Laura, I just heard back from my friend (finally). She recommended http://nmfconnect.marfan.org/ but warns that it's not as active as it should be.

"You yourself deserve your love and affection as much as anybody in the universe." -Buddha
"Let's face it, life is a crap shoot." -Sad in AZ

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itainteasy ( member #31094) posted at 1:47 PM on Wednesday, June 26th, 2013

(((((Laura and family))))))

I'm not a mom...I can't imagine the terror you must feel.

I'll pray for you and your kids.

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h0peless ( member #36697) posted at 5:48 PM on Wednesday, June 26th, 2013

I probably have it (I have a lot of the physical markers and I'm 6'8" tall) but I've never been tested and have always been healthy enough. It really hasn't caused me any problems except that I feel bad when I'm standing in front of other people at a sporting event or a concert.

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