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GreyWorm (original poster new member #70069) posted at 2:58 PM on Friday, July 24th, 2020
I wasn't sure where to put this so I'm sorry if this isn't the right place.
Taylor Swift released a surprise album last night called Folklore and there is a sing titled "Illicit Affairs" that is clearly about cheating, written from the perspective of an AP.
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up who may listen to the album. I had a friend listen to the song first to let me know if it was about infidelity and it still triggered me a bit when I listened.
Happenedtome2 ( member #68906) posted at 7:45 PM on Friday, July 24th, 2020
Not surprising considering she's a loon who uses her love life as cannon fodder.
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crazyblindsided ( member #35215) posted at 7:52 PM on Friday, July 24th, 2020
Can't stand Taylor Swift and her many relationships
fBS/fWS(me):52 Mad-hattered after DD (2008)
XWS:55 Serial Cheater, Diagnosed NPD
DD(22) DS(19)
XWS cheated the entire M spanning 19 years
Discovered D-Days 2006,2008,2012, False R 2014
Divorced 8/2024
GreyWorm (original poster new member #70069) posted at 9:46 PM on Friday, July 24th, 2020
That's kind of judgemental, don't you think? Literally every artist uses their lives as inspiration and that includes relationships and relationships are used as inspiration for musicians. Nobody really says anything about male musicians doing the same thing.
And I don't really see a problem with someone dating around. I mean, that's what we're supposed to do right? Date around while we're young, figure out what we want in a partner and all that? She's 30 and has dated idk maybe 8 or so people. That honestly doesn't seem like much to me. Pretty sure I've dated that many if not more people in my life and I stopped dating 8 years ago yet nobody has said anything negative about it to me.
Anyway, I was just trying to give anyone who actually likes her music and listens to the new album a heads up. So for any fans on here, prepare yourself for that song, the album is really good 👍
nomudnolotus ( member #59431) posted at 10:30 PM on Friday, July 24th, 2020
That song isn't about "dating around" though, it's about an affair obviously with someone who's in a committed relationship.
Reading the end of the lyrics there, that's some bunny boiler stuff going on.
Westway ( member #71747) posted at 10:38 PM on Friday, July 24th, 2020
Who's Taylor Swift?
Me: 52;
XWW: 50 y.o. serial cheater
Married 22 years, Together 24
2 Daughters: aged 16 and 20
DDay: 9/20/19
Divorced 12/03/20.
GreyWorm (original poster new member #70069) posted at 11:00 PM on Friday, July 24th, 2020
@nomudnolotus yes the song is about adultery but that has nothing to do with Taylor Swift. Every song on the album is a story, it's all fiction. This is the first album she's written that isn't based on her own life.
When I was talking about dating around I was referring to her actual life that many people judge her for for whatever reason.
crazyblindsided ( member #35215) posted at 12:06 AM on Saturday, July 25th, 2020
That's kind of judgemental, don't you think?
I guess my comment was judgemental. It just seems like she monkey branches right into the next relationship she has.
fBS/fWS(me):52 Mad-hattered after DD (2008)
XWS:55 Serial Cheater, Diagnosed NPD
DD(22) DS(19)
XWS cheated the entire M spanning 19 years
Discovered D-Days 2006,2008,2012, False R 2014
Divorced 8/2024
GreyWorm (original poster new member #70069) posted at 12:16 AM on Saturday, July 25th, 2020
@crazyblindsided I'm not sure if she consistently does that or just when she was younger. I know I did that when I was young but I don't think it's healthy. I guess it works for some people but I personally believe that you should spend some time single after a relationship for reflection and to get your bearings and sense of self back.
Anna123 ( member #70908) posted at 1:53 AM on Saturday, July 25th, 2020
Ughh. One of her songs was big during reconciliation and I used to think the OW probably listened to it as if she was singing it. I thought I had 'won' at the time. HA.
LadyG ( member #74337) posted at 3:32 AM on Saturday, July 25th, 2020
1st there’s ‘illicit affairs’ then comes the ‘mad woman’
Read into it however you like.
(I didn’t listen to either song, just read the lyrics)
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Thissucks5678 ( member #54019) posted at 3:50 AM on Saturday, July 25th, 2020
For the record, I’ve always thought Taylor Swift was talented. I haven’t heard Illicit Affairs, but I just read the lyrics and it sounds to me like it could’ve came the COW in my situation. In my opinion it isn’t glorifying an affair, it’s doing the opposite. It’s talking about how an affair messed her up. I don’t know, it doesn’t sound all that romantic and beautiful to me. I can see how it could be triggers though.
I think “Mad Woman” has to do with her argument with her record label.
DDay: 6/2016
“Every test in our life makes us Bitter or Better. Every problem comes to Break Us or Make Us. The choice is ours whether to be Victim or Victor.” - unknown
OwningItNow ( member #52288) posted at 12:59 PM on Saturday, July 25th, 2020
I will check out the song today as Taylor Swift's album is getting a lot of praise, but The Dixie Chick's new album (now The Chicks) is 100% about her cheating husband--every single song!!!!! It was almost hard to listen to because the emotion is so raw.
Natalie Maines was interviewed on Howard Stern a few days ago, and I didn't hear it but read how she kept saying, "I can't talk about this stuff. We have a non-disclosure agreement. I'm going to end up back in court!" But it's obvious that she poured her broken heart into the lyrics with songs like "Gaslighter" and "Tights on my Boat." I found the lyrics a little triggery, putting me back in painful, angry thoughts. I hope she found SI when she needed it.
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Reject the rejector. Do not reject yourself.
GreyWorm (original poster new member #70069) posted at 5:31 PM on Saturday, July 25th, 2020
@Thissucks5678 I agree about Illicit Affairs, I've only heard Mad Woman once so I'll have to relisten. You could be right but I vaguely remember thinking it was linked to The Last Great American Dynasty. Although it was super late when I heard it so I could be wrong.
There are 3 other songs on the album that are part of one story about a teenage love triangle or something, kind of reminded me of Riverdale.
Thissucks5678 ( member #54019) posted at 6:19 PM on Saturday, July 25th, 2020
Owning it Now - I remember listening to “You Were Mine” - an old Dixie Chicks song that I used to love a long time ago, but after dday I just cried my eyes out to it.That one is an oldie but a goodie.
The Chicks have some really good break up songs.
DDay: 6/2016
“Every test in our life makes us Bitter or Better. Every problem comes to Break Us or Make Us. The choice is ours whether to be Victim or Victor.” - unknown
SilverStar ( member #46958) posted at 6:46 AM on Sunday, July 26th, 2020
BW me
WH him
2 kids
D-Day 11/11/14
SlapNutsABingo ( member #71353) posted at 3:38 PM on Monday, July 27th, 2020
Glad she left the Country world, or maybe it left her....
GreyWorm (original poster new member #70069) posted at 7:12 PM on Thursday, July 30th, 2020
@SilverStar if you're talking to me don't be a dick. I posted this to help people who are fans of hers and might listen to it and get triggered like I did.
I am a huge fan of her music, it has gotten me through a lot of bad times in my life. Helped me cope with my mom dying when I was a kid, the death of a father figure after high school, break ups, the death of my actual father, and my wife cheating on me. And due to that I have run counterpoints to what some have said here.
People can hate if they want to I just don't understand it. I try not to be rude to or about anybody, I don't want to contribute to all the negativity in the world, I try to just be a nice and good person. If someone had made a post like this about a musician I don't care for I'd just keep scrolling. What is the point of stopping and commenting about how I don't like them or some gossip I heard about them when the person who created the post clearly likes the artist? It's just rude and a waste of my time.
Anyway, I'll stop posting counters to this post. Obviously it's a waste of time and energy, there will always be someone who feels they need to drag others for whatever reason. I just hope that I was able to help someone avoid this trigger.
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