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Divorce/Separation :
stbxww got a tattoo of our "love"

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badmedicine ( member #41692) posted at 7:28 AM on Sunday, August 10th, 2014

Excuse me for swearing but...

That is some fucked up shit. What a bitch.

I would donate the $5 if you didn't have it. There are some doozies on this site but this one is up there!

"The wishbone will never replace the backbone." -Will Henry
"This wasn't just plain terrible, this was fancy terrible. This was terrible with raisins in it." -Dorothy Parker

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RedWheelBarrow ( member #38966) posted at 8:14 AM on Sunday, August 10th, 2014

She seems embarrassingly immature. What a boring drama queen.

Block her.

Me: BW 50
Him:Peter Pan late 50's
DS: 13
Married 14 years, together 17 years
DDay #1 Nov.2012, plus more, more, more!
OW : 25 years younger

Divorced!

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SBB ( member #35229) posted at 9:37 AM on Sunday, August 10th, 2014

What a mindfuck.

This is all a part of her compartmentalisation - she loved you once, she was a good person once etc. etc. etc. the alternative is the truth.

She is a vile human being. Someone with any shred of empathy or love for you would leave you the fuck alone and not torture you like this. Her 'love' story has nothing to do with you I'm afraid. Nothing at all. Just like the songs the sad clown dedicated to me knowing that he had dedicated the very same song to DDOW a few months prior. He knew it when I asked to read their emails and he knew I'd see it. He let me find it.

The song wasn't about how he felt about either of us - it is what he wanted to feel for someone, anyone. He is incapable of feeling it which is why he creates a mirage of it.

The cruelty was as astonishing as the pain. Please know I was right where you are now and would have likely been for much longer had that parasite not found a new host.

I didn't walk away - he did. I couldn't. It would have taken me years to find the strength and courage on my own. I cannot imagine the mindfuck this is for you. I really can't.

I'm so glad you've blocked her. Block any other avenue she has to set more grenades off in your life.

Healing will come but first the pain.

Nowhere near the same level of c***fuckery but in the same spirit - I live very close to the M house. Early on in S I referred to it as 'the sad house' and it stuck. It was a reaction to my then 5 year old asking why we couldn't all live there together - again - like she thought that house was the key to that.

Anyway - the sad clown heard about this and vehemently corrected her. He was very happy in that house . He loved that house and he loved me. He always has. He always will. Love. Happy.

I was livid that instead of trying to make the adjustment easier for his child decides to reinforce the lies he tells himself.

I cried in every room of that house, at every window, in every corner, under every beautiful ornate ceiling. I cried myself to sleep most nights for years in that house. I wept lonely and isolated tears all over my two newborns in that house. I asked myself what happened to my M in that house. I searched for my husbands heart in that house. I cried angry tears for not being 'good enough' in that house. I was abandoned in that house. I was cheated on in that house. I was vilified, ridiculed, diminished and emotionally abused in that house. My experience of early motherhood was forever damaged in that house.

Just as his lies do not negate MY authenticity in that M, his fabricated/compartmentalised memories of what was DO NOT change the truth. It was a sad M and it was a sad house.

[This message edited by SBB at 4:21 AM, August 10th (Sunday)]

I may have reached a point where I'd piss on him if he was on fire.... eventually!!

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stronger08 ( member #16953) posted at 9:47 AM on Sunday, August 10th, 2014

I don't want to piss on your birthday cake here but how do you know the tattoo is really a tribute to you ? Just because she says it is does not make it so. Even if she has mentioned it prior to D-day it does not mean its about you. I'm a tattoo guy, I have been getting inked since my teenage years in the late 70's. I have to be honest in that each of them are on my body because I like them, not because they represent any other person. Unless that tat has your name and SS # emblazoned on her body chances are its just lip service she has given you. Tattoos last longer then most relationships, so don't think its a sign of commitment from your WW. Shit, I know plenty of guys who tell multiple women that a certain piece of theirs was done for them. Its all bullshit brother !!! In my opinion your WW did this to once again exercise her ability to fuck with your life. As long as YOU allow her to have this power over you she is going to keep doing it. NC my man, NC = no new pain.

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SBB ( member #35229) posted at 12:16 PM on Sunday, August 10th, 2014

I just remembered another example - a few weeks after Final S I was in my new ace and he asked if I'd kept any wedding photos. I had only kept one group one - I have the rest to him.

He then told me he had a picture of my on my own on my wedding day "proudly on display in my home for all who enter to see." I know the picture well - when I first saw it I thought it captured my radiance, my essence. I loved that photo.

can't remember the exact words but it was something about how he loved how happy I looked and how he felt like he gave that to me.

It cut me like a knife. It still cuts me now. I felt so violated. "all to see" included whatever dumb whore he was luring into his twisted world.

I couldn't believe he would not just let me be. Let me heal. He didn't want me to heal - he wanted to hold on to the ego kibbles from defrauding an astonishing woman like me to fall in love with his pathetic arse.

If he ever loved me he would joy have done that to me. Any of it. I started realising then that he never did love me. Not because I am not worthy but because he doesn't have it to give.

This is why they fake it. This is why they can turn so quickly and do these things. They never loved us, friend. They loved the idea of being in love . They are now loving it with their next victim. Lather.Rinse.Repeat.

I may have reached a point where I'd piss on him if he was on fire.... eventually!!

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sparkysable ( member #3703) posted at 3:33 PM on Monday, August 11th, 2014

She's probably "shared" the same song with the OM and told him that she got the tat as a symbol of their "lurve".

I was going to suggest the same thing. I would be willing to bet that she told OM, or whatever poor soul she is hooking up with now, that it was for him. Then, she thought, "Hmm. I'm bored. I think I'll send my stbx a pic, and tell him that I got this for HIM?" Does she enjoy the mindfuck? Oh yes, every minute of it. Your best bet is to go dark on her. This ego kibble dispensory is now closed.

D-day OW#1 2/2004;D-day OW#2 5/2010
Marriages that start this way, stepping over the bodies of loved ones as the giddy couple walks down the aisle, are not likely to last.

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norabird ( member #42092) posted at 9:13 PM on Monday, August 11th, 2014

(((justme)))

You can never understand her. She's too broken to understand.

"sorry it was a mistake showing you. forget it."

My ex would say things like this. it's blame-shifting. They're having a pity party. Boohoo, we aren't being sweet to them, it's so hard!@ After they ran our hearts into the ground, stepped on them threw them in the trash.

Sometimes I have wondered or even hoped if my ex might get a tattoo related to me also. He has a few, and I think we might have gotten ones if we stayed together. I also know it fits his emotional MO-big gestures, a belief in how amazing and true his love is, and simultaneously an inability to honor it.

Go you for blocking the POS. They just love to dig the knife in--because our reactions and feelings are never actually driving them. Just their own need for validation.

Sit. Feast on your life.

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Thefly559 ( member #40268) posted at 10:17 PM on Monday, August 11th, 2014

sorry brother, this crap sucks , you are not alone , I am in mid divorce with no remorse at all im about 6 months of strict no contact at all. it was hard in the beginning now it is easy. my stbxww sent a picture of me and her together to my daughters instagram knowing I see it? accident? maybe but still destroyed me for about an hour!!!! that's it one hour! that is great because 6 months or 12 months ago that killed me for weeks !!! time brother time. strict no contact , no reaction at all , no response, she is a fly buzzing around now, just a big annoyance. stay strong vent here or the gym. you are not alone. I got a tattoo of a tombstone with a saying that only my ex and I know, she is dead to me now that life is gone as she is !!!! I never sent it or showed it but im sure my kids told her. go get a tattoo that helps you if that works for you. mine did .

"respect? you don't deserve it, you won't get any from me unless you earn it"

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healingroad ( member #41920) posted at 6:51 AM on Tuesday, August 12th, 2014

justme1264 - I've been following your story and this thread and I keep thinking there must be something to say but I've got nothing - it's just so unbelievable, that she would do something like that.

So, I'll just leave it as, sorry you have to put up with that shit and hope things get better. NC hopefully will be the end of this crap.

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southsidecali ( member #22752) posted at 7:58 AM on Tuesday, August 12th, 2014

i am sorry, my ex got a tattoo for the OW after 2 weeks of "knowing" her via TEXT/phone calls, they were soul makes and just had a "spark"... yeah 2 weeks- they are a special kind of fucked up.

no contact, if you want to save the $$ just change your number.

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 justme1264 (original poster member #42890) posted at 6:25 PM on Tuesday, August 12th, 2014

I wish I had more time to respond to more replies. Thank all of you for your support. It means a lot.

RomanticInnocenc:

Why do I want to love her again? That is a tough question these days. To be honest, I don’t want to love her anymore – I just still do. The original meaning behind the tattoo was beautiful. But now, it’s nothing but an excuse she is using to make herself feel better. I don’t want to see it because she has made it VERY clear she does not have remorse and doesn’t intend to. That tattoo is not for me or for our marriage like it was originally supposed to be. It’s now for her own guilt and regret.

What did I get out of the relationship? The marriage was not void of love. In fact, we had a lot of it. It’s just her depth of love was very limited. When she deserted me and had the affair while I needed her the most it did do some permanent damage. She sees the damage, and she even somewhat sees what it would take to make amends. But, she chose to walk away so that she doesn’t have to face the pain and damage she caused. She rationalizes that she’s doing me the favor. Her exact words were, “I stand firm in my decision to be apart. It’s the right thing.” She actually believes her running away is the right thing. In fact, I am certain she doesn’t even see it as running away. She doesn’t allow herself to see that our R was false. She’s fooling herself – and it is irrefutable. I DO NOT crave this part of my wife back. In fact, I detest it. It angers me, and I wish I had some sort of way to get this all out so I never have to care to think about it every again.

What I crave is the woman I loved before she bailed out of the marriage when things got tough. I lost the love of my life. I crave the love of my life back. I crave the woman I once knew. I crave the woman I used to have faith in. The choices she is making now she will forever regret IF she knocks out of her current insanity and delusional way of thinking. She is making excuses after excuses as a way to deal with the shit storm she created instead of actually dealing with the problem. That’s why she “stands firm” in her choice to bail on our marriage and the pain she left behind. I do not see her facing the real problems anytime soon (i.e., remorse). I see her continuing to put Band-Aids on everything, and doing anything to relieve the guilt and shame. As long as she continues down this path, she will be nothing but toxic to me and those around her. THIS is what makes me so sad because after this last stunt of guilt to Band-Aid the problem with a tattoo, she has unwittingly turned my anger for what she is doing into hate. This is a bad place for me to be in.

Forged1:

I honestly don’t know if the OM is in the picture. Logically, and with prior history to go off of, it is likely he is there if for anything other than as a way for her to numb her regrets. I don’t want to assume anything as it doesn’t help me in any way. I don’t think she cares if others see her as the bad guy. But, it is very likely she is trying to show herself she isn’t as horrible of a person as she believes herself to be. The lines she is feeding me is her own bullshit. It’s the bullshit she is telling herself. She is too blind in her guilt to see how much of a destructive force her lack of understanding and remorse truly are. This pisses me off to no end. Because while all her actions have nothing to do with me as a person, they have everything to do with me as the casualty. Her actions post affair have been 1000x more damaging than the affair itself. And she has no clue or understanding of this.

I doubt she will come back somehow in November. This is because I think she will have convinced herself to such a point that being apart and divorcing is the “right” thing to do. She is going to convince herself, if not already, she is being the martyr. This will let her at least sleep at night. Especially on those nights when she isn’t distracted and she sits with the horribleness of who she’s become and what she’s done.

SBB:

You couldn’t be more right about her compartmentalization. And damn does this part of her hurt me so much. The collateral damage of this part of her personality has no end to the amount of pain it brings. I don’t believe she is vile – her intent has never been to hurt me directly. I believe she is just so blind from guilt that she has no damn clue of the collateral damage she causes by her impulsive actions. Her constant mode of operation is that she sees the damage immediately after the fact and that’s when her real character comes out – she packs her bags and runs as fast as she can because she gets a glimpse of the horror she caused. I can almost bet the moment she got my text back she woke up from her compartmentalization for a moment and saw the bomb she just fired. That’s why she packed up again and ran fast – telling me to just forget it and she never should have showed me. It is cruel –there is no doubt in this. It is insanely hurtful on so many levels. It’s literally like someone wanting to take a drink of alcohol because it feels good, then they get in a car, kill a family, are horrified with what they just did, and instead of taking responsibility, they run from the scene. She has done this time and time again with my heart and my very life.

Blocking her is the best possible thing I can do. I have to get myself away from her as much as possible. I can’t take much more of her recklessness. She keeps slowly taking away parts of my soul. She may be ruining me, but I have the choice to allow it to continue or end it entirely. Blocking her number was so hard to do. I felt like shit for 3 days after. It’s hard not allowing yourself to be someone’s victim anymore.

I know what you mean how your husband created some sort of fantasy around his love for your home when in reality it was filled with your misery and pain. My wife, like your husband, is incapable of remorse. They don’t, and likely will never, deal with the pain they caused us. I think it is a survival mechanism because if they allowed themselves to be vulnerable to the pain they caused us it would very well break them. To say we are stronger than they are is an understatement.

How you feel about your wedding photo being displayed in his house for all to see is exactly how I feel about her tattoo about me. The authentic love I have for her, the endless moments of pain and suffering I endured because of her, and all the lies she has concocted about me are all on display for everyone. It is pure bullshit. Her tattoo is bullshit, how she shows her care for me now is all bullshit.

She got a tattoo of a sailing ship floating on the flowers of one of the islands we went to early on in our relationship. It symbolizes a poem I wrote her and a song about how we can rebuild our marriage ship and sail back home together because we’ve still got time. This was true back before she broke NC with the OM and CHOSE to end our R. This was all true before she PURPOSELY lied to me and KNOWINGLY ran over my heart. There is no excuse anymore, no amount of brokenness, and no apology needed. It was spelled out clearly. It is no different than her purposely taking a gun and firing it right into my heart. Why she did it? I have don’t really know. It doesn’t matter – because in the end she CHOSE to hurt me. But, what she is too self-involved to see is that her choice to not be remorseful has pushed me off our ship and ended any time we had. What hurts me is that she prefers it this way because she ultimately doesn’t want to deal with me, the damage, and all the pain she’s caused. She’s content to just walk away from the scene of the accident she caused, knowing fully that I am bleeding out to death. I do not want to love a woman like this anymore. I do not want to think about a person who can so carelessly play with my life.

[This message edited by justme1264 at 12:25 PM, August 12th (Tuesday)]

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 justme1264 (original poster member #42890) posted at 6:28 PM on Tuesday, August 12th, 2014

mhca:

I know what you mean about there not being any words. The night of her text I went to a room, fell to my knees, stared at the floor, and knew there wasn't any words for how this felt. Something died that night - what or how to describe it is beyond me.

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prowoman ( member #40761) posted at 9:05 PM on Tuesday, August 12th, 2014

God, that's awful. I'm so sorry.

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 justme1264 (original poster member #42890) posted at 9:25 PM on Tuesday, August 12th, 2014

You know what... why in the hell do I try to explain or rationalize my stbxww's actions?

After re-reading everyone's comments and especially mine, I am done trying to defend her.

All of you are right: This is one F*&**D up and cruel woman. It doesn't matter "why" or if the woman I once knew and believed in even is inside there anymore. The fact is she is down right cruel and utterly thoughtless. I hate admitting this about her. I am NOT her husband anymore and I certainly don't have to protect her anymore. She's doing a bang up job of showing everyone just how screwed up her thinking is.

You all were right when you said she is being vile, cruel, a bitch, embarrassingly immature, drama queen, etc. etc.

I am going to spend sometime for a while to sit with who my stbx has become. It's been too shocking for me up till now to really sit with this, swallow it, and crap it out. But I need to. I need to move on to a much healthier person. This is harsh to say, but it is 100% true...if I keep her in my system any longer it will give me cancer. She's cancer to my heart. So sad it had to be this way. So sad she had to be this person. She could be so much more.

[This message edited by justme1264 at 3:27 PM, August 12th (Tuesday)]

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