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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 10:10 PM on Friday, August 30th, 2019

Let's look at this.

I have an affair and want out. I get that plus a whole lotta cash to boot.

Now I'm gonna complain because you have more than me.

Why are you dealing with this?

You have enough problems.

Learn to ignore.

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 12:21 AM on Saturday, August 31st, 2019

Absolutely .

My only difficulty is that I need her to be cooperative on certain child related things.

For example - I need to apply for passports for both children for a trip in January .

I need her signature on the paperwork.

If she refuses, I could go through a court order but that’s a lot of hassle .

Or I just endure her madness and answer .

But yes I forwarded her crazy emails to my lawyer who will watch out If her side considers fighting the mediation result in court .

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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 12:36 AM on Saturday, August 31st, 2019

Yeah, the mediation if they reneg is your major concern.

Once they sign can they try and back out?

If so you'd be better off trying to not throw up redflags to a bull.

[This message edited by Marz at 6:37 PM, August 30th (Friday)]

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 1:53 AM on Saturday, August 31st, 2019

At the end of the mediation, I signed a form, stating that I accept the outcome and if I fight the mediation outcome in court, I would have to carry the legal cost.

My ex did not sign this one.

She signed that she accepts the mediation result, but not that she would carry all legal costs of a trial.

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AFL1000 ( member #66483) posted at 1:55 AM on Saturday, August 31st, 2019

As I understand Australian law once an agreement is signed by both parties during mediation it is binding on both parties and is as enforceable as any other contractual agreement.

ATG's very STBXW is just pissed that she and her lawyer got outmanoeuvred during the negotiations. She had legal advice, delayed the signing of the agreement by half an hour according to ATG while she discussed it with her lawyer and then signed it. No thumb stews were applied, no finger nails were pulled. I am sure she has been told by family, friends and the AP that you should have got more. Well sorry you thought ATG was going to roll over and give you everything and he didn't so now she comes crying poor to all that will listen to her.

Yes she could still go to court but it's going to cost her heaps and a binding agreement is just that, binding! Given her focus on money I don't think she would risk further action and incurring heavy legal costs.

I agree with ATG that she could be petty and cause difficulties if he wants to take the kids overseas on holidays by refusing to sign paperwork for passports so he does have to do his own game playing to keep her onside and cooperative.

ATG you said you have a school function today that she is attending Have you got plans to handle dealing with her in social settings?

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 2:07 AM on Saturday, August 31st, 2019

Hi AFL,

I won't go to the school function, some of the parents I am more friendly with, have got other plans.

The kids are quite happy with a home day, we have got heaps to sort out.

And I enjoy the silence.

As far as I understand, if she wants to fight the mediation agreement, its quite a major battle for her.

I agreed to two years of increased child maintenance pay. If she should let me know that she will fight the agreement, I'd stop those increased payments. She would have a tough time getting the cash for the law suit together, so I think its not a real thread at the moment.

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AFL1000 ( member #66483) posted at 4:07 PM on Saturday, August 31st, 2019

Hey ATG

In amongst all the pain, anger and hurt of the past year as a result of the shitstorm your STBXW brought into your life, the one constant that has never changed has been the love of your children for you.

Happy Father's Day.

Enjoy the day with your son and daughter.

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paboy ( member #59482) posted at 6:02 PM on Saturday, August 31st, 2019

Wishing you and AFL a happy fathers day.

May this time next year have us all in so much more peace.

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 12:46 AM on Sunday, September 1st, 2019

Thank you so much guys, its much appreciated !

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 4:22 AM on Monday, September 2nd, 2019

After a peaceful weekend with the kids, did I drive them over to their mother before work this morning.

She was pissed off about something, could hardly speak because of all the anger.

Yesterday she sent me an email, thanking me for being a wonderful father to the children.She must have had battery acid for breakfast or her new man didn’t please her over night, her mode had again changed.

After I left, she sent me a couple of text messages, still angry.

I ignored all of them.

She is crazy, I’m so glad that I don’t have to see her this week.

The return handover will be done by the nanny.

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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 5:10 AM on Monday, September 2nd, 2019

Anyway you can let the nanny handle all exchanges?

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AFL1000 ( member #66483) posted at 5:36 AM on Monday, September 2nd, 2019

ATG

Was her anger directed at you in the emails or was she just pissed off at the world and venting and you were just in the line of sight at the time?

Could be the outcomes of the mediation and the finalisation of the divorce are looming large. All actions have consequences as she is now learning.

Expect more of these unpredictable anger outbursts. Ingnore, ignore, ignore.

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 6:05 AM on Monday, September 2nd, 2019

Sadly, I can’t use the nanny for all exchanges.

I think the anger was directed at me for all the reasons you mentioned.

I was polite but did not engage into any discussion .

Even the one text message I needed to answer, I remained diplomatic .

( always imagine the the message will be one day read in court )

It’s exhausting , I’m looking forward not to hear from her until Sunday

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 1:20 AM on Thursday, September 5th, 2019

And it continues to be slightly difficult :

Her lawyer hasn’t do the paperwork for the court order which has to follow the mediation.

Yesterday my children were staying with her the extra night, to make up for an extra night they had with me.

My daughter didn’t want a bar of it and demanded to come home to me.

I talked to her via FaceTime and made staying at her mum’s sound like fun.

I had to do it for the kids.

Afterwards my ex texts me “ this is so sad “

I answered “ yes, I don’t ever want to tell my daughter again that she can’t stay with me “ and left it as that.

I’m sure my ex wanted me to somehow say that’s ok , but she won’t get any sympathy out of me.

At night I dreamt that we were still a family and everything seemed so lovely.

Nowadays these dreams don’t take it out of me so much any more, a few months ago, I would have been sad for most of the day.

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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 2:53 AM on Thursday, September 5th, 2019

At night I dreamt that we were still a family and everything seemed so lovely.

Counter that with having to live in infidelity as well.

You're getting there. These things are never easy but time will dissipate it for you.

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20yrsagoBS ( member #55272) posted at 3:53 AM on Thursday, September 5th, 2019

ATG,

You’re doing great! You really are! Your heart still has to catch up to your head.

(((Hugs)))

BW, 54 WH 53 When you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas

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paboy ( member #59482) posted at 6:20 AM on Thursday, September 5th, 2019

Keep on keeping on..My friend.

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 8:03 AM on Thursday, September 5th, 2019

Thanks for the words of encouragement .

I know that the dreams are just that- but they can set the mode for a day.

I’m not confusing my dreams with reality - but the heart is limping behind a bit ...

Today I have got the kids , so everything is so different anyway.

I’m busy in the very good way and there is no real reason for the ex to email me or similar .

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Lifeitself ( member #71057) posted at 8:48 AM on Thursday, September 5th, 2019

You’ve been doing great ATG. Just ignore the ‘this is so sad:((((‘ messages. Keep on grey rocking mate.

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 Atg100 (original poster member #66119) posted at 3:24 AM on Saturday, September 7th, 2019

About 3 weeks ago, I asked my ex if we should work through the co-parenting book from Relationship Australia .

No answer .

Last week, I asked her about a number of specific dates of the co-parenting calendar .

Are you working on this date ? Can we swap that date ?

No answer or even acknowledgement of the email.

I will ask her next week, what she would think an appropriate turnaround time for such questions to be answered might be.

Again, I don’t expect an answer.

It’s her narcissism of course .

I’m not playing this game.

I will collect enough of these unanswered emails and then seek an order that we both have to attend a compulsory coparenting course .

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