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Emerald Eyes ( member #7977) posted at 9:24 PM on Wednesday, March 6th, 2013
This is the best thread EVER!
aesir ( member #17210) posted at 10:24 PM on Wednesday, March 6th, 2013
#6 I will not gloat over my enemies' predicament before killing them.
#7 When I've captured my adversary and he says, "Look, before you kill me, will you at least tell me what this is all about?" I'll say, "No." and shoot him. No, on second thought I'll shoot him then say "No."
As per The Incredibles, these both fall under the category of Monologuing.
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silverhopes ( member #32753) posted at 12:07 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
"We're Aaaaanimaniacs! Dot is cute and Yakko yaks..."
Hard not to be in a good mood once that song comes on.
Anyway back to the thread!
Definitely monologuing, which sounds suspiciously like procrastinating. Part of having Evil Overlord credentials is to show no signs of being a softie. Also noticed that several of those points reference letting your enemies grow up in order to smite a "worthy adversary". Um, no. Doing it decisively just increases the intimidation factor, and a good Overlord is all about intimidation.
Except for that point about wearing jovial colors... Joker might have been onto something there...
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam.
aesir ( member #17210) posted at 12:23 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
Back to geekiness thanks to silverhopes.
There is something special about the first two SW movies that was lost in Jedi (beyond the lack of Ewoks).
The first two SW movies had a lot of classy British actors, especially amongst the Empire. Think of Moff Tarkin played by Peter Cushing. Truly creepy to watch someone with impeccable manners blow up a planet, just in time for tea.
Contrast that with Jedi and how suddenly nobody had the accent or manners anymore, and the Empire had taken a giant bottle of Windex to the previously gritty fleet, cuz you know, we're losing the war so we better give everything a spit shine so we at least look good doing it.
I would liken Peter Cushing's Moff Tarken to Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector, with his own moral code. Much scarier to realize that the killer is motivated by a strict morality you do not understand than merely by some random urges.
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silverhopes ( member #32753) posted at 12:41 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
Truly creepy to watch someone with impeccable manners blow up a planet, just in time for tea.
Very true. Very effective acting.
Curious - you mention the first two Star Wars as having that quality. Not "Return of the Jedi" as well? What was different about that one?
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StillGoing ( member #28571) posted at 1:56 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
Part of having Evil Overlord credentials is to show no signs of being a softie.
Of course he's a softie!
aesir ( member #17210) posted at 2:26 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
Curious - you mention the first two Star Wars as having that quality. Not "Return of the Jedi" as well? What was different about that one?
The empire all lost their accents and discovered windex for their suddenly clean and free of space grime fleet, Ewoks, the big musical number at the end. True evil is more concerned with accomplishing things of substance than selling toys to children. Oh yeah, a high tech mechanized army with no restraints on their rules of engagement is not going to lose a war to furry stone age midgets, especially not when they have air support and control the orbital space. Essentially a lack of adult supervision on the word processor.
Remember, no true villian ever thinks of themselves as evil. The sole redeeming point of the Episodes 1 through 3 is showing Darth Vader becoming what he is with good intentions all along the way. There was even one of the Star Wars games where you played as a stormtrooper. You were supposed to be fighting to preserve order and extinguish a rebellion by the anarchistic rebels.
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silverhopes ( member #32753) posted at 2:55 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
Ah OK. At first thought you meant that for the prequels... Yeah, I did think the Ewoks winning was ...surprising (hah!)... but chalked it up to them knowing the terrain better.
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Amazonia ( member #32810) posted at 3:03 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
I <3 ewoks.
I'm only a wanna be nerd, but darn if I'm not watching a marathon of bbt episodes and drinking wine tonight.
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dlmos (original poster member #36839) posted at 3:21 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
Ok, how did I ever miss Firefly!? Reynolds is the MAN!
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StillGoing ( member #28571) posted at 3:48 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
The sole redeeming point of the Episodes 1 through 3 is showing Darth Vader becoming what he is with good intentions all along the way.
IMO, they fucked that up too.
Darth Maul and Count Dooku were pretty cool though.
Are you sure you mean the Empire with the clean thing, btw? cuz the Death Star in ep4 was pretty shiny and the Star Destroyers in Empire were too. The Rebel stuff went from grimy to gleaming in RotJ though. It's like they put Ackbar in charge to state the obvious and hire janitors.
I'm excited about eps 7-9. I really liked what Abrams did with Star Trek, and Disney taking over means the movies can be "kid friendly" without being "adult stupid." On Stranger Tides was a decent enough film adaptation (though the entire Pirates series was drawn from the book, which was inspired by the Disney ride.. it's a conflux of awesome) and it managed a good balance between "family adventure" and "what the fuck did that fish person just do"
Geek thread, now with more Hobbit:
Amazonia ( member #32810) posted at 3:53 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
Ok, how did I ever miss Firefly!? Reynolds is the MAN!
I had to google, you mean Mal, right???
Firefly is seriously the best. Love it.
"You yourself deserve your love and affection as much as anybody in the universe." -Buddha
"Let's face it, life is a crap shoot." -Sad in AZ
silverhopes ( member #32753) posted at 4:10 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
Seems Peter Jackson might now be going for a drawbridge and dragon to add to his money fortress!
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam.
aesir ( member #17210) posted at 4:46 AM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
I <3 ewoks.
Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
Reynolds is the MAN!
Your mileage may vary... in accordance with the prophecy.
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StillGoing ( member #28571) posted at 7:38 PM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
I hear if you feed an ewok after midnight GST it turns into a Kowakian monkey-lizard.
Amazonia ( member #32810) posted at 7:49 PM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
aesir, I don't understand your quotes without context... or replies... you confuse me.
"You yourself deserve your love and affection as much as anybody in the universe." -Buddha
"Let's face it, life is a crap shoot." -Sad in AZ
Crescita ( member #32616) posted at 9:01 PM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
I <3 ewoks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzZYanCQyHo
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Amazonia ( member #32810) posted at 9:19 PM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
crescita that's one of my favorite scenes ever from HIMYM!
"You yourself deserve your love and affection as much as anybody in the universe." -Buddha
"Let's face it, life is a crap shoot." -Sad in AZ
aesir ( member #17210) posted at 9:48 PM on Thursday, March 7th, 2013
aesir, I don't understand your quotes without context... or replies... you confuse me.
I <3 ewoks.
This was you.
Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
This is the reply, it is a quote from Malcolm Reynolds.
Reynolds is the MAN!
This is just a fact.
Your mileage may vary... in accordance with the prophecy.
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osxgirl ( member #8795) posted at 1:24 AM on Friday, March 8th, 2013
Oh, people - not that I don't agree with all the geekiness in here already, but...
How did this thread get to 3 pages with no mention of Hitchhiker's Guide?
Or LOTR?
Monty Python?
And for most any sci-fi film made, you have to be able to say, "Yes, but the book/short story/novella/comic was better," and then list out all the ways the film deviated from the original story line.
Think "I, Robot" or "Jurassic Park".
ETA: I've never been able to get into Dr. Who, but loved Torchwood, though I still haven't seen Miracle Day yet.
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