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nekonamida ( member #42956) posted at 7:23 PM on Tuesday, February 16th, 2021

TiF, that's a great update. Glad to see you're finally getting some empathy and contrition from her.

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Stevesn ( member #58312) posted at 1:52 AM on Wednesday, February 17th, 2021

I’m glad to hear this. From what you relay it truly does sound like she’s starting to get it. If she can get that job it will go a long way, of course never perfectly, to showing you she care about you feeling safe.

These are early days of her truly doing the work after well over a year of her doing a piss poor job. At the start of a potentially long road, If she can truly do the right things it can be a path to happiness.

Thanks for updating us.

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fBBF. Just before proposing, broke it off after her 2nd confirmed PA in 2 yrs. 9 mo later I met the wonderful woman I have spent the next 30 years with.

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Radney ( member #75125) posted at 5:56 AM on Wednesday, February 17th, 2021

Your situation sounds like it would be a decent environment for the kids, but, as far as a marriage partner, it sounds like he has the upper hand. I believe you deserve better. NC would definitely be on my list,if I stayed.

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 This0is0Fine (original poster member #72277) posted at 2:29 AM on Thursday, February 25th, 2021

My (f?)WW is accepting the position that she was applying to. I think that probably does it for this thread. I may or may not start anything in reconciliation. I'm not currently seeking advice, but I will stick around to give advice, since this site has done so much for me.

Without making this specifically about me, is it possible to continue, sustainably in a M with a WS without R?

No it's not.

Say WS is an otherwise good match for you aside from the fact that they had an A. Like the same food and entertainment as you. Wants to raise kids the same way as you. Is trustworthy as it comes to things like finances and time management. Sex is good in both frequency and quality. The WS has apparently stopped the A, and has slowly come to understand the damage that they caused.

However, said WS continues to make suboptimal decisions. Breaking NC, rarely, to have otherwise completely innocuous conversations they tell you about/don't hide. Lying about minor things, unrelated to the A. Something like the price they paid for something. Making friends with AP's close friend. Let's say you are willing to be flexible on basically everything except for an A continuing or a new one starting.

Wouldn't you rather have a spouse that is truly remorseful and understands your needs completely and is working toward or actively is making them a reality?

Is it possible to just suck it up and make it work functionally, even though you cannot fully reconcile due to the WS's actions? How long can you continue in limbo or sitting on the fence as a sort of practical matter? Can you just treat your SO as an exclusive fuckbuddy/roommate/co-parent that just doesn't really care as much about your feelings as their own? It's almost like "I'm in love with you but I don't love you" to reverse the old saying.

No, you shouldn't just suck it up. You speak the fuck up that it is bothering you. You should make yourself perfectly clear on what your needs are, and what goals you have for the new reconciled marriage. If your goals are more than where you are right now, don't just sit around and accept it.

So, there you have it. I would have preferred if the path there wasn't getting progressively less happy, asking for a divorce, having two shitty days that should have been special, having multiple drawn out fights over the same topic to make it clear that I'm not just in a mood. But things are currently headed in a very positive direction.

Love is not a measure of capacity for pain you are willing to endure for your partner.

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