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Just Found Out :
I am now a BS

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HobbesTheTiger ( member #41477) posted at 9:38 PM on Wednesday, August 12th, 2015

I understand, that's why I mentioned the option of telling her about other sites, there are a few good there.

Thanks for the reply!

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happyman64 ( member #33212) posted at 9:58 PM on Wednesday, August 12th, 2015

It doesn't change my path but it just shines more light on how fucked up she is.

Yes. It takes weeks sometimes months to come off the affair "high" or fog that we call it.

So yes she is fucked up. Like I said they are living a fairytale and farting pixie dust. I assure you this will not last. But it dies slowly.

One day she will be alone, you will have the kids and she will wonder just what the hell she did to blow up her life, family and marriage in one shot.

But she has to reach that point on her own. You cannot make it happen. All you can do is fend for yourself now.

I've got to get her out of the house. She is my enemy of happiness

Now I will give you some advice from the HappyMan.

The only enemy of your happiness is yourself. Happiness truly comes from within. You make it or generate it. Sometimes it can be so abundant that it spills over and others feel it.

Your wife might be causing you to be unhappy. But she does not make your happiness for you.

That is your own responsibility.

Do not use her or her affair (lies & cheating) to be an excuse to not be happy.

In the beginning you fake it till you make it.

I became a good friend to another poster on here a few years ago. His wife screwed him over by having an affair with a friend of their, His two girls were only 7 & 4 at the time I believe.

His wifes OM was married to her friend and they had just had a newborn.

She broke the news to him the day before Thanksgiving. He was completely blindsided.

He fought for his family. He fought for his marriage.

His wife left him around 7 times to be with the OM.

He ended up with full custody because the kids showed signs of PTSD and his wife became unstable.

Long story short he is now remarried has a few more children and is happy.

Why? Because he took control and made his own happiness. He went as far as to create a new larger family.

What I'm saying is give it time. Focus on you and your kids. Make your own happiness.

You are young and have beautiful, healthy children.

The world will soon be your oyster again.

HM

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 ICanOvercome (original poster member #48625) posted at 10:05 PM on Wednesday, August 12th, 2015

TheAmazingWondertwin hit the nail on the head. I haven't told her about this site because of that reason. I'm 95%+ sure that I am talking to her but just in the off chance I am not I don't want to risk it.

Once the ink is signed on the divorce papers, then maybe I will tell her about this place.

I'd be happy to tell her about other places but really I only know this one.

Happyman64 - you are right about the happiness. I need to get back to reading and doing my daily things. It's been messed up lately and of course I am not getting a lot of sleep. I swear we talk for 2 hours every night and I just want her to stop. There's nothing left.

Me: BH (37)
Her: WW (35)
Married 10 years (2004), together since 1998.
Two daughters, ages 5 and 2.
Divorced 11/20/15 - living and LOVING life!

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Hope2behealed ( new member #48436) posted at 3:42 AM on Thursday, August 13th, 2015

ICO,

You are simply amazing. Not once during your process have you faltered in your integrity nor your morals. You remained steadfast to your goals and attacked this hail storm head on. I am in awe of this thread and the strength you exude. The things I have learned from everyone's contribution of knowledge during your battle against infidelity has been invaluable. This is definitely a resource worthy thread. And holy heck, the speed of pace at which you went is...intimidating to say the least.

I am happy to know you are choosing to not allow anyone to give you second prize affection. You sound like you deserve full blown, head-over-heels love and I think you will not be a man that will settle for less ever again. Your posts were raw with emotion in the beginning but your conviction to get this shit out of your life gives me hope that strength can be found from within and that good people can and will prevail.

Your future can be nothing but bright because we all can see how you shine.

The cruelest lies are often told in silence.

— Robert Louis Stevenson

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5454real ( member #37455) posted at 4:05 AM on Thursday, August 13th, 2015

Talk about what?

Dude, quit pain shopping. She's made her choice. Read a book, go to a movie, go out with some buddies. Find a college class on abnormal psych, but quit letting her in your head.

No, it's not easy. She's trying to keep you *on the hook*. Just unbalanced enough so that when/if she fails in her quest, you'll be there to save her.

She knows your buttons, she installed many of them.

Strength

Oh, remember the phrase *not my circus, not my monkeys*.

[This message edited by 5454real at 10:31 PM, August 12th (Wednesday)]

BH 58, WW 49
DS 31(Mine),SD 29,SS 28(Hers),DS 16 Ours, DGS 11, DGD 8, DGS 3
D=Day #1 5/04EA (Rugswept)
D-Day #2 3/10/12, TT til 3/13/12
Married 13yrs
"I have no love for a friend who loves in words alone."
― Sophocle

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Hope2behealed ( new member #48436) posted at 4:20 AM on Thursday, August 13th, 2015

Oh yeah, and quit talking to her. She sucks.

The cruelest lies are often told in silence.

— Robert Louis Stevenson

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Aumanny99 ( member #48529) posted at 4:39 AM on Thursday, August 13th, 2015

My WS also knew the OM's wife and daughter, had spent time at his house with them. He went to the beach with my WS and my kids once, with my blessing, because I was assured nothing at all would ever happen and they were "just friends". It really frosts me how she could be so friendly with each other's families and yet commit such a betrayal.

Do they lack empathy? Does the dopamine/testosterone cocktail just override that circuitry? It's so hard to conceive of and then to try to forgive.

Me: BS: 52WS: 40sDD: 11/7/14DD2: 10/17/15 (EA cont'd during false R)Married for 20 years Two kids, pre teen.WS: has LTA for 4 years. First 2 years EA, then last 2 years EA/PA. False R between 11/7/14 and 10/17/15(

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hurtingheart1215 ( new member #48942) posted at 7:22 AM on Thursday, August 13th, 2015

This is my first post. I've been happily married for 23 years So I though, and what I found out on Thursday, 7/30/15 was the worse day of my life.

I stumbled upon a transaction for a hotel in my husband checking account which I am also a signer, purely on accident. Then the red flags started popping up. The weekend just prior my daughter had a softball tourmament which he never misses, but this time he said he couldn't go due to work issues, but he said he would come up Sunday morning. Well, come to find out he had other plans, they are still unravaling, but of course I think it was planned.

When I confronted him by crypted text, like what were you doing in Pasadena, he made some legit excuse to be there until I said then what about the hotel room? Then silence, next he tells me he went drinking with co workers and didn't want to drive home. Well I kept pressing the issue because it just didn't feel right. Then I went into our phone account and saw all the text and phone calls to and from one number in Pasadena. My heart dropped I couldnt breathe I had to leave the office to get it together. Then I called the number, of course no one answered, but she must have panicked and told me husband, so next text I get about killed me it said "stop digging for answers I cheated on you!". This was a Thursday, I think I was in shock because I didnt cry until 2 or 3 days later. Ii went to lunch and called him to find out more he never gave me a clear "it's over with her"' and after a lot of BS, blaming me and issues in our marriage it sounded like he was blaming me and it was all justified I just couldn't handle anymore so I hungup. Still can't cry at this point. Unbelief ripped through my bode this can't be happening.

Of course he is sleeping In the den on a blowup bed that deflates quite a bit during night which made me extremely happy all the many times I heard him blowing it up cuz of course I couldn't sleep for Days after.

Then on Friday, I ask him if he is still going to contact her and he wouldn't give me a direct answer. I finanlly said "are you waiting for me to say it's over so you could be free and leave with less guilt?" We have a 13 year old child. He told me the marriage was over and if I'd like he could lie to me about contacting her, basically saying he wasn't stopping. I couldn't let him stay in my house like this so I told him to tell our daughter in front of me So he didn't spin the truth in his favor. Hardest thing ever.

I couldn't let him continue to disrespect me in my house talking to this women. It was killing me but he had to go, he agreed and even offered to give up the house so we didn't have to disrupt her schooling and he acknowledged it was all his fault. The reality is our debt was too complicated and it was going to take some time to figure thing out.

On Monday, he was leaving and cornered me and said "how can fix this with teary eyes". I was already set on him leaving me for her and I felt a whole new emotion, I screamed and yelled, after all he can't play with my emotions like that, it's over but no wait there's hope. I didn't even have time to figure out what I wanted. I slapped him and I wish I could do it again and left the room. Later checking phone records again, he called her all morning after that tiny micro second of remorse, I called him out and all he said "I'm sorry, I shouldn have said that to you" now I'm back to extreme sadness, even a little blaming myself of the way I reacted that morning.

Then he changed the password on the phone account cuz I told him he cannot talk to her in my house he must get out,

4 days of despair my marriage of 23 years is over, then micro second of hope only crushed quickly as if that was the impulse mistake he made (asking me his wife what can he do to fix it ....instead of his impulse decision to be with her that one night). I'm sorry but how fucked up is that.

Well it isn't over, now 4 days later, Friday, he has ended it with her and wants forgiveness knowing it could take a year of him sleeping in den, begging me by text (I still can't look or talk to him face to face). Told my daughter that he's trying to fix our family. I am soooo angry, can't concentrate at work, all day long I'm checking Phone records, which he gave me back the password. I asked to see the actual text he says he deleted all her contact info, I'm so mad I don't know what to do,,? Now the crying is daily, multiple times. I know it's affecting my daughter cuz although I try to hold it back it come out in some form of anger like destroying pictures of him. Am I wrong?

Our financials have really gotten us tied at the hip cuz I need his pay and he needs mine. I wonder if this is all a game because we are in debt.

Devestated and confused. Thanks for reading my story.

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eric1 ( member #47762) posted at 7:44 AM on Thursday, August 13th, 2015

Wow, what an awful story.

You should start your own thread. You are a very strong woman.

From his perspective, he is in love with her, chose her when you pushed him and when he went to her all bright eyes and cheery she told him that she wouldn't leave her husband for him. Now he's spinning it. Obviously.

Do not worry about financials. You are too good of a person to accept that, and you know that.

Look forward to chatting with you in your own thread. You will get lots of great help from lots of great people

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mharris ( member #46683) posted at 2:33 PM on Thursday, August 13th, 2015

Hurtinghheart-I agree with Eric1. Start your own thread jere in Just Found Out. You will get lots of great advice.

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eric1 ( member #47762) posted at 2:34 PM on Thursday, August 13th, 2015

ICO's efforts were of such magnitude that he created his own gravitational pull of other betrayed spouses.

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SpokenFor ( member #48401) posted at 11:39 PM on Friday, August 14th, 2015

Hey ICO,

I hope things are going OK for you -- stress levels must be through the roof. Whatever you are doing I hope you keep that sense of purpose you had found in the past week. Remember that this is still all early days and you can get through it.

I also hope that over the past couple of days your wife's fog has finally been completely pierced. Not sure what good that would do, but at least you could have a rational conversation with her. In the face of your justifiable anger perhaps she can begin to realize where she really is and what she's really done.

Hopefully your divorce work is proceeding regardless of anything else so that you continue to have all options available.

Keep on overcoming...

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california111 ( member #48976) posted at 2:27 AM on Saturday, August 15th, 2015

Thank you for posting your story. I found out just a few days after you did. Today I spent three hours reading your whole story. While some parts are very different, I can so relate to the pain you felt in those early days. I wish you all the best.

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 ICanOvercome (original poster member #48625) posted at 3:20 AM on Saturday, August 15th, 2015

I'm still around!

I had a really super bad day yesterday. I even called my doctor for some antidepressants. She didn't get me a script until today and I feel a lot better.

I also found out that they aren't like a headache pill. They take time to build up.

I'm not a big fan of chemicals anyway so I'm good for now. Still, I have them if need be.

I'm a lot better today. I had a half day today and I got out on the trails and listening to nature and it just makes everything feel better.

We are very close to filing for divorce. The forms are mostly filled out. We found a guy who does uncontested divorces for cheap. So unless something drastic happens, I think we should file either this weekend or even by the end of this week.

Feels weird but I know it is the right path.

Me: BH (37)
Her: WW (35)
Married 10 years (2004), together since 1998.
Two daughters, ages 5 and 2.
Divorced 11/20/15 - living and LOVING life!

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SpokenFor ( member #48401) posted at 4:39 AM on Saturday, August 15th, 2015

A couple of "Wow"'s to hand out. A big congrats to you for staying the course, you are doing great.

An incredulous "Wow" for her -- is she really planning on blowing up her AP's marriage, or is she just trying to get out of being a Mom and finding another fuck buddy closer to home? The fog is deep in this one...

What is she saying about why she wants the divorce to move fast ?

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 ICanOvercome (original poster member #48625) posted at 9:13 AM on Saturday, August 15th, 2015

She doesn't want the divorce. I do because she still in love with him.

Me: BH (37)
Her: WW (35)
Married 10 years (2004), together since 1998.
Two daughters, ages 5 and 2.
Divorced 11/20/15 - living and LOVING life!

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eric1 ( member #47762) posted at 9:27 AM on Saturday, August 15th, 2015

You knew this day was coming.

A week ago you gave her conditions and she chose him and her job over you. Period.

[This message edited by eric1 at 3:30 AM, August 15th (Saturday)]

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 ICanOvercome (original poster member #48625) posted at 11:03 AM on Saturday, August 15th, 2015

Absolutely right.

She wanted more time to decide but I will not wait around for sloppy seconds. I've made my peace with the situation, now she's going to have to deal with it.

There are so many mean things that I want to say to her but in the end there is no point.

She fucked over me and my kids for a few nights of sex and a shitload of emails. Congratulations!

Me: BH (37)
Her: WW (35)
Married 10 years (2004), together since 1998.
Two daughters, ages 5 and 2.
Divorced 11/20/15 - living and LOVING life!

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Valentinessucks ( member #46486) posted at 11:35 AM on Saturday, August 15th, 2015

ICO, keep the tunnel vision (men are so good at that!!). Divorce is the goal. Smooth custody agreement. Civil relationship because of the kids.

You are doing great.

Strength

Me: BS, 52 Him: WS, 68
Married 30 yrs; DDay E/A, 5/2012
2nd DDay, again E/A, broke NC 2/2014 Reconciling.

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 ICanOvercome (original poster member #48625) posted at 12:09 PM on Saturday, August 15th, 2015

You know, the thing is that I want to waver. I'd love nothing more than to get my loving wife back. It won't happen. What I would get back now, or anytime in the near future, is someone that is just scared of their own future. I'd get someone that would be using me as a safety net, a fallback plan.

I'm not into that. She'd just do it again. So here I am pushing for the divorce.

I know that she'd love to have me say it can wait a month, two months, whatever but no. I don't like limbo and I am not going to get into a picking battle. Besides, in my eyes she already picked him.

Time to pack up and get out.

Me: BH (37)
Her: WW (35)
Married 10 years (2004), together since 1998.
Two daughters, ages 5 and 2.
Divorced 11/20/15 - living and LOVING life!

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