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"The Help" by Kathryn Stockett

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 Thriving (original poster member #4770) posted at 3:07 AM on Tuesday, August 2nd, 2011

Anyone read it?

I'm intrigued by the teasers I'm seeing for the movie. Being a southerner (born in Memphis), raised by a non-prejudiced southern bred mother and ultra-prejudiced Yankee father, I know my view of the Civil Rights movement was severely skewed compared to most people and I'm wondering if this will set thing a little straighter for me.

I'll probably watch the movie first when it comes out and then read the book since movies never measure up. I hate spending the money for a movie and being disappointed. That's probably why I haven't gone to a movie since the mid-80s.

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kdny ( member #760) posted at 3:26 AM on Tuesday, August 2nd, 2011

I just finished the book. I loved it. I wanted to read it before I see the movie.

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Red Sox Nation ( member #26358) posted at 3:35 AM on Tuesday, August 2nd, 2011

I read it as well. Seemed rather predictable, mass market and preachy. At least it moves quickly.

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authenticnow ( member #16024) posted at 4:17 AM on Thursday, August 4th, 2011

I read it and loved it. I'll see the movie with the expectation that it won't be nearly as good as the book. But I usually enjoy watching books get translated to the big screen.

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Hope24 ( member #9344) posted at 10:50 AM on Thursday, August 4th, 2011

Read it. Wasn't a big fan.

It will translate well to the big screen, I suspect.

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TheHardWay ( member #4342) posted at 2:40 PM on Thursday, August 4th, 2011

I read it also - I MADE myself finish it. Just was so-so - at best, IMO. It certainly wasnt worth the hype and the long wait on my book wish list.

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invictus ( member #21623) posted at 3:34 PM on Thursday, August 4th, 2011

I read it -- I remember people like some of those housewives, although at the time I thought they were just rude. Now I think they were ignorant and rude.

I thought the book was an eye-opener for people who had no idea that sort of prejudice existed. I'm looking forward to the movie.

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MissesJai ( member #24849) posted at 5:41 PM on Thursday, August 4th, 2011

loved it! I'm going to see the movie with the full on expectation that it won't live up to the book...

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wannabenormal ( member #19772) posted at 6:39 PM on Thursday, August 4th, 2011

I really enjoyed this book, so much so that I finished within a week, which is FAST for me! (I work, have kids...tend to spend my free time watching trash TV).

ETA: I don't think the movie will be near as good - but I'd like to go see it anyway.

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click4it ( member #209) posted at 6:42 PM on Thursday, August 4th, 2011

ooo there is a book? I definitely want to read it, because I really want to see the movie. Thanks for the heads up.

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formerlyteflon ( member #16725) posted at 7:37 PM on Tuesday, August 9th, 2011

I read this for my book club. I read it in one sitting and still think it's one of the best novels I've read in the last few years.

However. In the 5 years and 40-odd books we read in our book club, this was the most controversial. The gender and race divide was clear, as all the non-black women loved it and the men of all races and black women thought it was "depressing as hell", "borderline racist" and "contrived". We basically disbanded after discussing this book!

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persevere ( member #31468) posted at 9:16 PM on Tuesday, August 9th, 2011

I'm reading this right now! So far I'm really enjoying it.

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steph ( member #11564) posted at 8:25 PM on Friday, August 12th, 2011

I just started the book last night and I like it so far.

I want to see it before I see the movie.

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MissesJai ( member #24849) posted at 10:18 PM on Friday, August 12th, 2011

going to see the movie after work. super excited.

as all the non-black women loved it and the men of all races and black women thought it was "depressing as hell", "borderline racist" and "contrived".

People are going to have their opinions but the truth of the matter is the book is a pretty accurate depiction of southern culture at that time. I find it unfortunate that anybody, especially black readers, would consider it contrived. It's reality. Yes, it's depressing but it's our history as a country. It's embarrassing as hell, but it's the truth. You can't run from the truth. Racism was and still is very prevelant in the South. In fact, there's a small town in Mississippi where slavery still exists. Yes, you read that right.

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InnerLight ( member #19946) posted at 5:17 AM on Saturday, August 13th, 2011

I really enjoyed this book. I don't take it as the end all be all depiction of how black women in the south at that time felt at all. It's just one author and a white one. But I really loved this book a lot. Lots of black women writers to enjoy for a broader perspective.

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MissesJai ( member #24849) posted at 3:47 PM on Monday, August 15th, 2011

Saw the movie. EXCELLENT! Writers stayed true to the book, which was very pleasing. I'd definitely see it again.

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Cabrona ( member #9596) posted at 5:57 PM on Monday, August 15th, 2011

I read it, and was not unduly impressed. I agree that the black female characters were contrived and that annoyed me.

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 Thriving (original poster member #4770) posted at 12:24 AM on Tuesday, August 16th, 2011

Thanks everyone! Such a varied set of opinions. I'll probably wait until the movie is on "on demand" before I watch it but I may go ahead and read the book.

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cmego ( member #30346) posted at 3:04 AM on Tuesday, August 16th, 2011

I thought both were very good. The book is better than the movie.

I am very Southern, born and raised in the South, by very Southern parents. I remember my grandmother having "Help". My Mom said she always had a African American maid. It's just what southern women had at that time.

So, for me, I found it wonderful. I loved hearing about how the "Help" viewed the family...certainly not something my grandmother ever considered!

I'm amazed at how much has changed in 2 generations. My grandmother could have been one of those women in the book...and here we are, 2 generations later, where I grew up knowing nothing about segregation until it was taught in school.

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veritas ( member #3525) posted at 4:24 PM on Tuesday, August 16th, 2011

Racism was and still is very prevelant in the South. In fact, there's a small town in Mississippi where slavery still exists. Yes, you read that right.

That's exactly why many black women don't like it and many black women like myself might read it, but the annoyance factor is already high. It might be an accurate depiction of Southern culture, but it's not a particularly accurate depiction of The Help, the real women. I read somewhere that it was more like Mean Girls or Desperate Housewives for Jim Crow, and looking at the trailers, um, yeah.

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