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 NikkiD (original poster member #38173) posted at 4:09 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

That is the name of a book written by Steven James Dixon. Men don't heal they ho.

What do you guys think based on your experiences?

"Spoil me with Loyalty; I can finance myself...."
ME: BS-33
HE: WS-32
Married 3 years, known 20
2 kids
D-Day #1 12/30/12
False Recovery
D-Day #2 1/21/14
LTA 5 years-ish
Riding the "Struggle Bus"
Living apart....

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nowiknow23 ( member #33226) posted at 4:13 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

Not a guy, but what does that title even mean?

You can call me NIK

And never grow a wishbone, daughter, where your backbone ought to be.
― Sarah McMane

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gonnabe2016 ( member #34823) posted at 4:15 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

LOL @ NIK.....that was my first thought also. What does that even mean?

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott

In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.

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BaxtersBFF ( member #26859) posted at 4:19 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

From amazon summary - "Men Don't Heal, We Ho - A Book About the Emotional Instability of Men." The book delves into the longtime Dallas resident's transformation from a "HO" to a successful husband and father. "I speak directly to single women, single men, wives and husbands," Dixon says. "The book is about men because the emotional stability of the 'man' is the key element to having a successful relationship. If we get the men right, the women will fall in line." This book will definitively answer the following concerns for women: 1. Why your boyfriend won't make you his wife. 2. Why you might not want your boyfriend to be your husband. 3. Why you are single while she is married. 4. How to get a man and keep a husband. 5. How to be the best wife that you can be. This book will definitively answer the following concerns for men: 1. Why you are not ready to get married. 2. Why your homeboy is cheating on his wife. 3. How you can have a happy marriage. 4. What is expected of you as a husband. 5. How to be emotional and still maintain your manhood. "My experience and research have produced a body of knowledge about relationships. This body of knowledge has helped many men and women discover truths about their own relationships and lives," explains Dixon.

I probably wouldn't read it.

WH - 49
BW - gerrygirl

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 NikkiD (original poster member #38173) posted at 4:21 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

They wHOre around.......

They use their dicks to feel better instead of their words to get to a solution

"Spoil me with Loyalty; I can finance myself...."
ME: BS-33
HE: WS-32
Married 3 years, known 20
2 kids
D-Day #1 12/30/12
False Recovery
D-Day #2 1/21/14
LTA 5 years-ish
Riding the "Struggle Bus"
Living apart....

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 NikkiD (original poster member #38173) posted at 4:21 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

They wHOre around.......

They use their dicks to feel better instead of their words to get to a solution

"Spoil me with Loyalty; I can finance myself...."
ME: BS-33
HE: WS-32
Married 3 years, known 20
2 kids
D-Day #1 12/30/12
False Recovery
D-Day #2 1/21/14
LTA 5 years-ish
Riding the "Struggle Bus"
Living apart....

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 NikkiD (original poster member #38173) posted at 4:27 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

@ baxter....

LOL...you wouldn't read it but is it true?

"Spoil me with Loyalty; I can finance myself...."
ME: BS-33
HE: WS-32
Married 3 years, known 20
2 kids
D-Day #1 12/30/12
False Recovery
D-Day #2 1/21/14
LTA 5 years-ish
Riding the "Struggle Bus"
Living apart....

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nowiknow23 ( member #33226) posted at 4:28 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

****posting as a member****

Two sentences into the description of the book and I'm already so offended on behalf of both men and women, I could spit nails.

I know I'm not the target audience of your post, so I'll step off now.

You can call me NIK

And never grow a wishbone, daughter, where your backbone ought to be.
― Sarah McMane

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BaxtersBFF ( member #26859) posted at 4:33 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

Okay, here goes. Remember, I'm a WH...

IMO, a small percentage of men actually ho around. A larger percentage believes that many men ho around and just want to be in the same group as the cool kids. IMO, it is due in large part to what is on TV; the over the top shows, the commercials, the crap. Then there is the rest of the men who are normal, healthy, loving and lovable individuals who like romance as much as the next guy.

I never ho'd around. Just wasn't something that ever occurred to me to do. Any book written from that perspective is only going to have a very small demographic of pertinent readers.

WH - 49
BW - gerrygirl

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 NikkiD (original poster member #38173) posted at 4:42 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

@ baxter..

Well here is my take...Not necessarily around. But if you have has a PA with another woman, to your BS, you are fycking around...maybe with just one person, but still.

the point is, instead of healing the situation the person (man or woman) ended up sleeping with someone else vs communicating with their spouse.

Take it in this context: and the shootings the inner city. Mostly done by boys and men, instead of having a conversation with the person they got beef with, they shoot them instead...they really aren't killers.....just like men who have affairs aren't "ho's". But they chose the option that is the MOST counter productive to healing the situations they had a problem with and requires the least amount of thought...

[This message edited by NikkiD at 10:43 AM, February 16th (Saturday)]

"Spoil me with Loyalty; I can finance myself...."
ME: BS-33
HE: WS-32
Married 3 years, known 20
2 kids
D-Day #1 12/30/12
False Recovery
D-Day #2 1/21/14
LTA 5 years-ish
Riding the "Struggle Bus"
Living apart....

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BaxtersBFF ( member #26859) posted at 4:44 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

Good points. Just difficult to get past the title and the summary description.

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BW - gerrygirl

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StillGoing ( member #28571) posted at 6:14 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

5. How to be emotional and still maintain your manhood.

Yeah because this Cosmo for Men thing here just screams masculinity. I immediately envision Eddie Izzard in his Executive Transvestite outfit laughing so hard he pukes at this stuff.

I really don't see how an emotionally stable man means a successful relationship. It's not like there's a dearth of emotionally stable men married to emotionally unstable women around here.

Sorry, you said WH, not BH.

Tempus Fuckit.

- Ricky

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aesir ( member #17210) posted at 6:29 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

Not buying it... literally, figuratively, or as an ebook.

Your mileage may vary... in accordance with the prophecy.

Do not back up. Severe tire damage.

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 NikkiD (original poster member #38173) posted at 7:42 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

I think a lot of people do other things to cope instead of healing. Take out the cheating aspect. Lets say Kelly and lisa have a misunderstanding abt something and instead of kelly going to lisa with her problem she gossiping to everybody else talkin smack abt lisa. So "women dont heal they gossip....." jus my opinion....

"Spoil me with Loyalty; I can finance myself...."
ME: BS-33
HE: WS-32
Married 3 years, known 20
2 kids
D-Day #1 12/30/12
False Recovery
D-Day #2 1/21/14
LTA 5 years-ish
Riding the "Struggle Bus"
Living apart....

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stilllovingher ( member #29959) posted at 10:14 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

it sounds like garbage.

like, "i was a man-slut before, and i knew a group of other man-sluts, so we must all be man-sluts. let me show you how(after i lost my appeal to the she-slut community) ive changed so you can be like me again and i wont feel like an outcast from the tiny community i once enjoyed."

The only difference between a butt kisser and a brown noser is depth perception.
I'm sure WAL would agree.

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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 10:24 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

As a man, I guess I AM in the target audience, and my response is about the same as NIK's.

"The book is about men because the emotional stability of the 'man' is the key element to having a successful relationship. If we get the men right, the women will fall in line."

IMO, this means either or both: 1) Dixon can't think his way through a fork in a road; 2) he can't express a complex idea in English.

The book probably isn't a rewarding read, except perhaps for Dixon.

fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex apDDay - 12/22/2010Recover'd and R'edYou don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.

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stilllovingher ( member #29959) posted at 10:49 PM on Saturday, February 16th, 2013

...after getting a good chuckle from his website...

if it was free, id read it...for some more good laughs.

He is quite funny.

Nine out of the ten husbands said that their wives are not handling their bit-ness! A husband is a man first, and a man is going to have sex. Wives, if you don’t care to have a healthy sex life with your husband, you don’t have to but when you find out that his sex life is healthy without you . . . don’t be mad.

dont be mad...riiiiight...

Remember when you were a girlfriend? Remember that you wanted a husband? Ain’t nothing-changed sista! Girlfriends still want husbands. You have girlfriends right now who would love to have your husband, “AS IS".

cant say its all bad though

The only difference between a butt kisser and a brown noser is depth perception.
I'm sure WAL would agree.

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Sad in AZ ( member #24239) posted at 4:22 AM on Sunday, February 17th, 2013

This is, seriously, a bunch of crap.

You are important and you matter. Your feelings matter. Your voice matters. Your story matters. Your life matters. Always.

Me: FBS (no longer betrayed nor a spouse)-63
D-day: 2007 (two years before finding SI)
S: 6/2010; D: 3/2011

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5454real ( member #37455) posted at 5:38 AM on Sunday, February 17th, 2013

OK, I'll bite even though I'm a BSO/BH. In the first two instances of infidelility (on the womens side, five LTR's, five unfaithful women) my reaction was to soothe myself through proving I was still attractive. I'd find any willing female who thought I was cute/handsome. Both relationships were in excess of two years and were headed for marriage. My world had been shattered and my self absorbed parents had never taught me anything different. Hell, my Dad always slept in the basement and I never could figure out where my younger siblings had come from.

I have a problem where the author uses the word Men. Men don't do that(sorry, no offense meant), boy's do. Emotionally damaged/immature people will use anyone or anything to try to fill that hole within themselves. I think it fits both genders.

After the birth of my son, I like to think I grew up. I knew that just using others to soothe myself was wrong, I just didn't really care. Wow, when I had to think about what I would model for him, did my global perspective change. I wanted to show him what was right, not what had been not shown to me.

Anyway, just wanted to say that I get what the author is trying to say, I just disagree with who he is attempting to target. It's not Men(unless you are only using the physical description), but the emotionally immature.

Swing away, I fully expect the 2X4's.

ETA didn't/couldn't get past the title

[This message edited by 5454real at 12:30 AM, February 17th (Sunday)]

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PurpleRose ( member #33129) posted at 2:19 PM on Sunday, February 17th, 2013

Once again it's a woman's fault that the man is a Dooosh?

If we get the men right, the women will fall in line.

Is this guy for real?

divorced the Dooosh 8/13
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