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still2suspicious ( member #31722) posted at 9:39 PM on Tuesday, November 26th, 2013

That is a new kind of fucked up wrong!!

Sending (((SL))) that you had to go thru that!

What a couple of dipshits!! Geez.

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anewday78 ( member #39357) posted at 9:43 PM on Tuesday, November 26th, 2013

Wow, I guess I should have read to the end of the thread before I commented! So happy for you, SL. I'm sure this information takes a lot of sting out of the moving-on process for you.

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 StillLivin (original poster member #40229) posted at 9:48 PM on Tuesday, November 26th, 2013

OMG, This is completely insane! You need to get far,far away from this crazy. Kids don't even play games this pathetic. Run!

That is a new kind of fucked up wrong!!

^^^^ All of this. Jeez, I really really needed to go through this.

Twisted and sick. You hear about this on lifetime movies.

I'm done folks. My heart finally caught up to my head. Who does this shit. I have had several miscarriages. He was there for them. He knew how devastated I was that we couldn't have a child together. Ewwwww, WTF is wrong with him? And her....she went along with it. If I were with someone and they wanted to "get back" at their ex, the first thing I would be asking is "WHY", are you still in love with her or something. Huge red flag that she ignored.

I deserve so much better than this crap. And I'm glad I NEVER let him even get an inkling that his games were working.

Those two deserve each other.

I'm sure this information takes a lot of sting out of the moving-on process for you

And THANK YOU too anewday

[This message edited by StillLivin at 3:54 PM, November 26th (Tuesday)]

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PurpleRose ( member #33129) posted at 10:37 PM on Tuesday, November 26th, 2013

So she really didn't have his baby?

I have no words for,the level of disturbed that truly is.

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 StillLivin (original poster member #40229) posted at 10:47 PM on Tuesday, November 26th, 2013

So she really didn't have his baby?

I have no words for,the level of disturbed that truly is.

Yep! But she damn sure posted a picture of her with a newborn. Actually two. The baby nephew should be about 6 months old now. They planned the crap.

Sick, I know.

She even cropped out most of the background so I wouldn't be able to tell it was an older picture from when she lived in a trailor with her folks.

[This message edited by StillLivin at 4:49 PM, November 26th (Tuesday)]

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whiteflower99 ( member #13937) posted at 10:55 PM on Tuesday, November 26th, 2013

I have started and erased three responses to this. I am just....

Really?

This is a new level of ...

Really????????

I am so so sorry.

Wow. Just... wow.

What are you pretending not to know?

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painfulpast ( member #41038) posted at 10:57 PM on Tuesday, November 26th, 2013

That is beyond sick. I'm surprised he emailed you the truth.

You should send her a thank you card for getting that asshole out of your life.

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PurpleRose ( member #33129) posted at 11:02 PM on Tuesday, November 26th, 2013

SL I'm sorry. That is just unbelievable.

You are really the winner here, and he is a complete asshole.

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SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 11:34 PM on Tuesday, November 26th, 2013

In the thread that I started in General called "A-HA! The AP Is a Sociopath, Interesting" I had this quote in there:

They don’t view “winning” in the positive sense of achieving success–be it successful long-term relationships or professional endeavors–but rather as causing others to lose.

Maybe you should read that thread and the link I put in my last post about "winning". I think maybe this applies to your WS, the AP, or both of them. They sound like they need to "win" by any means necessary. Their winning doesn't look like normal people winning.

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 StillLivin (original poster member #40229) posted at 11:53 PM on Tuesday, November 26th, 2013

Sister Milkshake, he is PA, she has sociopathic tendencies, but she isn't a true sociopath, just broken and disturbed. Thank you, though. I did a paper on sociaopathy my first year in college. Wish I'd done one on clincial PA too!

Painfulpast, he wouldn't have told me the truth, but I called the boys and his parents and gave them the horrible news that he had yet another kid born. Embarrassment.

Whiteflower and Purplerose, thank you for the support. I got your back too!

I'm coming out of the shock of this sickness. I don't think he will be able to do anything else that would surprise me now. At least not anything he won't end up in jail for. He is too afraid of losing his clearance to do any real physical hurt.

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Brandon808 ( member #35619) posted at 12:07 AM on Wednesday, November 27th, 2013

Painfulpast, he wouldn't have told me the truth, but I called the boys and his parents and gave them the horrible news that he had yet another kid born. Embarrassment.

How will his parents react to this sick game I wonder? Unless they're as depraved as him they must be mortified their own child did something like this.

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Holly-Isis ( member #13447) posted at 12:31 AM on Wednesday, November 27th, 2013

When I first read this is was going to post that if there's any justice in the world, he'll find out he's not the baby daddy after supporting it for 18yrs.

This...I don't know what's worse, facing the reality that your WS created a new life with someone else...or that your WS is deranged enough to fake it to this extent.

We all hear stories of OW that are "pregnant" and "abort", "miscarry" or the baby just plain fades away. But this...a whole deeper level of depravity.

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HurtButHopeful? ( member #25144) posted at 12:40 AM on Wednesday, November 27th, 2013

StillLivin,

I'm so glad for you that Shrek wasn't pregnant! Those cheaters would make terrible parents!!!

You are so much better than that. You can make a clean cut from him, not having children in common. He really is a detriment to your peace. They are trash, and they prove it by their actions. Block him. Forget him. Look straight ahead and keep on going without him.

(I loved your rant, by the way. Don't let them get you down. They are nothing, you are precious.)

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His Needs Her Needs, by Dr. Willard Harley
Love Busters, by Dr. Willard Harley
(for husbands) Becoming the Ultimate Husband, by Reb Bradley

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storm77 ( member #40277) posted at 1:54 AM on Wednesday, November 27th, 2013

WTF is wrong with these two crazies. A OC is a whole new level of pain and to cause that type of emotional distress is f'd up!!! I would tell everyone and I mean everyone what these two people tried to do to you! I would forward the email/text to everyone in his contact list.

I am so sorry and angry for you at the same time!

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Chandler ( member #23038) posted at 2:24 AM on Wednesday, November 27th, 2013

((((((stilllivin))))) it sucks I know I have lived it too...I still cry about it somtimes and OC is 5. hang in there one day at a time

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gonnabe2016 ( member #34823) posted at 2:53 AM on Wednesday, November 27th, 2013

She posted a pix of her and her infant nephew from like 3-4 months ago just to mess with my head.

He finally admitted that he wanted me to "believe" she was pregnant because he wanted to hurt me.

I cannot have children, several miscarriages.

Your WH is one Sick.Puppy.

I thought my serial-cheating stbx was a sick puppy for telling me that he was just trying to *make me jealous* as a reason for his breaking NC with one of his OW's. But...holy shit. Your WH and his OW are just downright evil.

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott

In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.

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Kalliopeia ( member #35053) posted at 5:29 AM on Wednesday, November 27th, 2013

this happened to me a couple of weeks ago.

I had never seen his OC. no photos or anything. the little boy is almost 2 years old.

Then bam 20 pics of this child posted by his mother. I knew he existed. For going on 2 years.

But there he was. Real. Adorable, too. Sweet little guy appears to be anxious because he was wringing his hands in a lot of those pics.

It took me back to the day I found out about him. Total numbness and shock. Then the hurt.

I guess I accept he is really there. He didn't do anything wrong.

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Kalliopeia ( member #35053) posted at 5:33 AM on Wednesday, November 27th, 2013

btw, op, what they did to you is messed up.

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Skan ( member #35812) posted at 6:27 PM on Wednesday, November 27th, 2013

If this is THE thing that helps you move on with no regrets, then it's worth it, IMO. I've had several miscarriages and found out that I was unable to carry a child to term. Had anyone pulled this shit on me, after the soul-eating heartache, I think that I would have come unglued!

Live well and be happy. Best revenge you can have with these assholes!

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 StillLivin (original poster member #40229) posted at 7:09 PM on Wednesday, November 27th, 2013

If this is THE thing that helps you move on with no regrets, then it's worth it, IMO. I've had several miscarriages and found out that I was unable to carry a child to term. Had anyone pulled this shit on me, after the soul-eating heartache, I think that I would have come unglued!

Live well and be happy. Best revenge you can have with these assholes!

I've had a half night's sleep to reflect.

Yes, scan, this was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.

I woke up in the wee hours. It was still heavy on my soul. The utter sadness of my STBXH's sickness. I got on my hands and knees and prayed and prayed. Think I was down there for about 2.5 hours. I haven't done this kind of prayer in a long time.

I'm tired of feeling all this hurt and I'm tired of being angry. I just am. I am moving forward. Of course, when I sent that email rant yesterday, I meant every word of it. It was the me that wasn't tired yet of being so angry. She is a trifling, disgusting whore. So what. I'm better than her. I'm taking the high road. I'm not giving him anymore headspace to put toxin and poison in my soul. He will NOT have that power over me again. Below are the emails that were sent back and forth. He doesn't truly get it. And, he is still rugsweeping the extent of his betrayal and calling it mistakes, but not my problem...like i said, I'm moving forward now.

His response to my belittling email to him:

Look we were not together for 20 years, but I guess it sounds better to you when you tell all of your friends that crap. You know what I dislike the most is that I have to deal with you for another three plus years but like I said before at least I have a little peace from you. can we just stick to what I have to pay you every month and getting rid of the truck? I mean look at the e-mails that you have sent me, man you are on some high school stuff. Get over yourself StillLivin, get a life.

My response:

We've had a friendship, not a marriage, that spanned over 20 years. I am really and truly sorry that all you can remember from our marriage is negative. I remember wonderful Christmases with the kids opening up all of the presents that I lovingly shopped for and wrapped. I remember the hot cocoa and all the cookies I've baked and you and the boys have enjoyed. LOL, I remember all three of you turning up your noses in disgust at menudo. The boys sneaking up the stairs trying to get out of helping with the dinner's preparation. OMG I remember you laughing so hard your stomach hurt when I would call them back down those stairs to get back to business. I remember how bad your gas and diarrhea was when you and the boys had my awesome lasagna for the first time! I remember every single time I've made my pasta the happiness in your eyes and the bloat in your belly. You never could push away from the table when i made it.

I remember the first Christmas, the look in your eyes when you saw all of the trouble I went to for you and your sons. You really appreciated that I felt you AND your sons were worth all of that trouble.

I remember the first time you had my turkey and stuffing. Kept telling me you don't like stuffing. Now, every year, you get the biggest portion of stuffing.

I remember the laughter, the hugs, the kisses. I remember how special I felt when we made love to each other.

Oh my goodness, all the tears when cray cray 2d ex wife did her damndest to ruin you. Gosh how I remember our tears during that time. The fear that she would be able to convince a judge to put you in prison based on her lies. She wanted to make your life a living hell and I was NOT going to let that happen to someone I loved so fiercely. I remember us sticking together as a family when she jumped in bed with the devil. I remember the fantastic news that the judge didn't buy her lies. I remember getting on the phone with your Mom and sister and getting all the details. Me AND the boys all made your birthday cake and met you at the airport. We went to Denny's and they came out and surprised you with that huge, 3 layer chocolate cake with chocolate frosting. See, we had missed your birthday because you had to face the devil in court on your day. But we all made up for it when you got back. I remember the look on your face. That look was a cross between relief and finally acceptance that it wasn't a dream, that you truly had prevailed and now you were home with your family.

I remember sticking together as a family in the fires. You, DSS#2, Renia kitty and me all in that hotel room. LOL, we were so sick of McDonald's and KFC after that month there. Uhgggg and those nasty nasty eggs they served at the hotel. You taking DSS#2 out for driving lessons.

I remember the first time taking you to the Cost Plus World Market and Tres Amigos furniture store. Man you really liked those two stores.

For a few months, I was so hurt, so lost. Instead of giving my pain to God, I turned it on you. It was easier to be angry with you than to be on the floor in the fetal position every day with body racking sobs for the hurt and devastation you and your mistress caused me.

Last night I woke up. I got on my hands and knees and prayed for almost 3 hours. I cried. I let all of the hurt out.

I wished, in the beginning, that God would see fit to let you feel the pain you and your mistress caused me. I wanted you to hurt as bad as you and she hurt me. I just couldn't understand how someone I have been so fiercely protective of and loyal to could show me such complete and utter betrayal and disrespect and for so many years. How could you hate me so much when I came home every day and performed acts of love. I cooked, cleaned, blah blah blah.

Now, I feel only happiness. I choose from this day forth to bring up only the good memories. I won't let the Devil in as he whispers and reminds me of my grief and hurt. I release my hurt and anger for your betrayal. I no longer want God to give you what you and your mistress so selfishly and cruelly gave to me.

I've come to realize that you were already in some kind of pain. Only hurting people hurt the people that love them so much.

And love you I did. I loved you with every pore in my body. I don't regret being good to you anymore. I don't regret how I cherished you and your sons. I was supposed to do that. For whatever reason, I was also supposed to go through this pain. I don't question HIM anymore. I praise HIM instead, because through only HIS love could I have finally found this strength and this peace.

Mr. StillLivin, whatever demons ride you, I pray you get them off your back and that one day you find yourself to healthy. I hope you eventually learn that happiness comes from within and from God's love. No person or possession can give you complete happiness. I pray that you find clarity and that whatever is broken inside you can somehow be fixed. I hope one day you can become the man that I know is inside you. I hope you heal and I hope you never hurt another person again, I hope that you learn to love yourself as I have loved you and as our Lord has always loved you and always will.

May you find peace in your new life. I'm sorry that I couldn't by example show you how to love yourself.

I'm so tired of being hurt and angry. I'm done with it.

I forgive you.

I forgive your mistress.

His response:

I do remember those times, this is the nicest e-mail that I have received from you in a while. I am sorry for the harsh e-mail about the get a life stuff StillLivin, that wasnt nice at all.

My response:

You hurt me to my soul. There was no emotional abuse from me. Now I'm NOT saying that I never said harsh things, just that it wasn't emotional abuse. I've always called things pretty bluntly. And I'm sorry if my bluntness over the years caused you further damage or pain. That was never my intent. In your heart, your true heart, you know the truth. You have told me one time too many that I am a better person than you and that you didn't deserve me. You have told me one time too many that I am an angel from heaven just like your Grandmother. You cannot turn around and tell me things I know aren't true because I was there. I hope you can face your truths one day.

I'm sorry for your pain. You have to figure out a way to let all that pain go or you will continue on the wrong path, and you will continue to hurt people that love you so much. You will continue to shame yourself and hate yourself. Believe me, I saw it in myself I was so hurt by your betrayal. Instead of focusing on the hurt, going THROUGH the hurt, I chose to compartmentalize it and let it become anger. I'm a good, no scratch that, I'm a really great person inside. The Devil was whispering pretty hard in my ear, though! He gets us through our love and our hurt. I have always seen your pain over the past 20+ years. I thought my love would help you. My mistake is that that was the Lord's job to heal you.

I hope you heal. I really do.

Thank you for your betrayel. Thank you for the pain. I thank HIM as well. I give praise now and forever more. I'm stronger and more virtuous for it. I see clearly the Devil's hand and how he tried to lure me.

Careful, be very careful, you have been down this road longer than me and you are further down it.

Me, I'm turning back around and heading back into the light now. It's been pretty dark where I was almost headed, but I see a lot of light in my future.

His response:

Wow may the Heavenly Father continue to send you blessings and you are right I have been dealing with my pain through the Heavenly Father. I am not perfect but am trying to work on that and you are like my Grandmother the only difference is she new how to build up a person. My Grandmother used to tell me that it was ok to fail at things becuase that is how you become stronger with the Heavenly Father. I have failed at alot of things in my life since the passing of my Grandmother, but I new she is telling me its ok just be a better and stronger man when dealing with women. See I have no problems d3ealing with a man when they piss me off but a woman is so different. I didnt mean to hurt you so deep, again I am sorry StillLivin.

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