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 KatieG (original poster member #41222) posted at 7:38 PM on Thursday, December 12th, 2013

So my WBF's xOW is continuing her affair with WBF's work colleague.

Married Work Colleague just called me.

He doesn't know that they had sex but that something happened. Its driving him mad. I have protected my WBF by not telling him but I told him lots of details that lead to the fact that they had sex; like me having an STD test, email sex talk. And now I'm thinking, he's going to absorb those details and work it out. Should I just tell him and forget loyalty to my WBF?

We are in R and I feel now this could be a step backwards.

DD#1 - Oct 13

"Everyone says forgiveness is a lovely idea, until they have something to forgive" - CS Lewis

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karmahappens ( member #35846) posted at 7:40 PM on Thursday, December 12th, 2013

This guy is married, I wouldn't give him anything.

He is a POS.

I would instead call his wife.

FTG

“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom”
Anaïs Nin
Me: 45
Him: 47
Dday 8/2007
We have R'd

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ascian ( member #40304) posted at 7:59 PM on Thursday, December 12th, 2013

My comment to the OM (a former friend) upon discovery. I think it will be useful for you.

"I will not lie for you, I do not owe you that."

Me - BH 41
Her - FWW 38
D-Day: 8/13
Reconciled

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Holly-Isis ( member #13447) posted at 9:12 PM on Thursday, December 12th, 2013

Basically he's involving you in his A but leaving his BW in the dark. He cares if the slut he's screwing is the company bicycle, but doesn't care if his wife has a faithful husband.

He also believes that you care so little about fidelity that you'll involve yourself in this episode of "A very Special Jerry Springer."

How do you feel about that?

"Being in love" first moved them to promise fidelity: this quieter love enables them to keep the promise. *CS Lewis*

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 KatieG (original poster member #41222) posted at 2:59 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

I feel bad.

WBF has just walked out on discovering that I have betrayed him and spoken to the other man abut WBF's personal business.

Is he right?

I said sorry but he's gone. He doesn't know if he can forgive me.

Feeling numb and like I've messed everything up.

[This message edited by KatieG at 8:59 PM, December 12th (Thursday)]

DD#1 - Oct 13

"Everyone says forgiveness is a lovely idea, until they have something to forgive" - CS Lewis

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 KatieG (original poster member #41222) posted at 3:00 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

He said he needs to think about whether he wants to be with me after this.

DD#1 - Oct 13

"Everyone says forgiveness is a lovely idea, until they have something to forgive" - CS Lewis

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 KatieG (original poster member #41222) posted at 3:02 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

I need some help here.

DD#1 - Oct 13

"Everyone says forgiveness is a lovely idea, until they have something to forgive" - CS Lewis

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karmahappens ( member #35846) posted at 3:44 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

Oh Katie

Do you see what he is doing? He is turning this around so you have to beg HIM for forgiveness.

YOU did nothing wrong. He is the one that drove this truck into the ditch. Do not beg and plead your case to him.

He is being an asshole. period.

After my husband's A I talked to everyone. His mother, his siblings, my parents, our friends. Hell if I had had a milkman I would have told him.

You know what my husband did? He looked sad, you could tell he was hurting, but he said. IT'S OK...I DID THIS TO YOU. Whatever you need to do to make yourself feel better, do it.

He didn't try to make me feel like shit, he didn't turn things around so I was the bad guy.

He knew it was all on him.

Now my dear, is time for the 180.

Read it, do it. He does not deserve you right now.

(((hugs)))

I would not be talking to the WBF whoever he is, he is a piece of crap too...let him sort out the mess he got himself into.

Get into some IC and start seeing your WS for who he is right now. Not who he was or who you want him to be. See him for his actions in this moment.

I am sorry

“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom”
Anaïs Nin
Me: 45
Him: 47
Dday 8/2007
We have R'd

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Thinkingtoomuch ( member #31765) posted at 3:55 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

Hi, Katie

I wouldn't beat yourself up over this. You did the best you could in the circumstances. It's a complex situation if I understand what you posted.

Whenever I see a ws get mad at their bs for something like this, my instinct tells me it's really a ploy of ws to deflect their own blame and exaggerate the fault of the bs over something much smaller. This-your giving information- was absolutely NOTHING in comparison to what wbf did to you.

He doesn't know if he can stay with you over this?? Oh, well. And can you stay with him over what he did to you? What he did is the true "unforgiveable" item here.

You didn't mess up. He did.

IMO.

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 KatieG (original poster member #41222) posted at 5:57 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

Thanks guys. I said I thought he was using it as an excuse to get out and I said, he could just say he's out, so he doesn't need an excuse.

I got a couple of hours sleep and am still relatively calm. 180 here I come.

I'm going to read it again and again.

I tried to do what I could under the circumstances. His reaction has shocked me actually.

DD#1 - Oct 13

"Everyone says forgiveness is a lovely idea, until they have something to forgive" - CS Lewis

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karmahappens ( member #35846) posted at 6:03 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

Be strong, completely ignore him and his childish tantrum.

(((hugs)))

I am sorry he is being such an asshat!!

“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom”
Anaïs Nin
Me: 45
Him: 47
Dday 8/2007
We have R'd

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 KatieG (original poster member #41222) posted at 6:04 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

Yes, I need to see it as a tantrum - it was just like that actually!

I have read 180 and I am ready to do it.

Wow, never saw this one coming!

DD#1 - Oct 13

"Everyone says forgiveness is a lovely idea, until they have something to forgive" - CS Lewis

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karmahappens ( member #35846) posted at 6:11 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

Unfortunately Katie, in the beginning most of us don't see anything coming

It will be one of the craziest times in your life. You will have days where you just walk around the house shaking your head like WTF...

Thats why SI is so great, most of the shit they pull has been pulled before. Hang around long enough and you see the cycles. It's kinda creepy how similar cheaters are.

Different names, cities and lives....same old bullshit.

“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom”
Anaïs Nin
Me: 45
Him: 47
Dday 8/2007
We have R'd

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 KatieG (original poster member #41222) posted at 6:14 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

I have to get the 180 in my head. I'm not close to crying or feeling too bad, but I have to focus on that and it will help me find my strength.

Its my grandmothers funeral today so have that to deal with. I guess he won't be around!

180 and time I guess.

DD#1 - Oct 13

"Everyone says forgiveness is a lovely idea, until they have something to forgive" - CS Lewis

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karmahappens ( member #35846) posted at 6:22 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

I am really sorry for your loss.

IMO he doesn't deserve to be with you at such an important time.

Do you have family you can lean on today?

(((hugs)))

Be good to yourself Katie.

“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom”
Anaïs Nin
Me: 45
Him: 47
Dday 8/2007
We have R'd

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 KatieG (original poster member #41222) posted at 6:24 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

Thanks karma, she was very old. I don't have any family but I can find a friend, I will be OK today.

Just bad timing that this has all happened.

Thank you so much for your support. I needed your words. x

DD#1 - Oct 13

"Everyone says forgiveness is a lovely idea, until they have something to forgive" - CS Lewis

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karmahappens ( member #35846) posted at 6:38 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

I am working and will be around most of the night. If not me, someone is usually around.

Just post when you need strength.

You will be ok.

“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom”
Anaïs Nin
Me: 45
Him: 47
Dday 8/2007
We have R'd

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SummerStorm21 ( member #41320) posted at 10:13 AM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

Hi Katie,

Just wanted to let you know you're not alone.

I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you do ask a friend to be there for you.

Hugs.

BW

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I think I can ( member #17756) posted at 1:11 PM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

Um, I'm pretty sure that your boyfriend cheating on you is YOUR BUSINESS, and you can talk about your business with whoever the hell you want to.

I'm not the winner, I'm the prize.

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 KatieG (original poster member #41222) posted at 3:44 PM on Friday, December 13th, 2013

I'm doing 180, and he is very angry - says I've fucked his life up. Its over, can't trust me, said he can't believe he did that.

I continued the 180.

So we'll see. What happens next?

DD#1 - Oct 13

"Everyone says forgiveness is a lovely idea, until they have something to forgive" - CS Lewis

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