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Dreamland ( member #40488) posted at 5:53 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

Double post

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Me-BS 50 Him-WH 47, DD17
Together since 1993, Married 19 yrs
DDay 3/12,4/12,7/12 EA-PA OW - 25 single husband chasing bastard whore

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 LonesomeLeon (original poster new member #41933) posted at 8:06 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

Hello to everyone here at SI. I'm using notepad right now and will cut and paste when we get home.

Hello again, I'm finally home after a long hard exhausting day. I know the majority of you are not going to agree with my decisions and reasons for reconciling with my wife. Her head still isn't right. But I now believe it's not her fault. I don't know if she will ever be totally herself again but I refuse to consider leaving this woman who I have worshipped and who has been my wife, helper, confidant and who gave me 4 beautiful children and was my rock in life for over 29 years. If your Wife or Husband came down with Alzheimer's would you just kick them to the curb. My Wife is sick and without proper care she could die. Right or Wrong I'll gladly suffer the consequences of my decision to stand by her in her time of need. My vows said for better or worse in sickness or in health till death. Well I ain't dead yet so my work isn't done.

I haven't had a chance to proof read so please forgive typos.I called my Wife's work this morning and told them she would be off due to illness the rest of the week. Then I woke her up and asked her to get ready. As my Wife and I drove to our GP's office I held her hand as I drove. My wife sat with her head back and eyes closed holding my hand with both of hers.

We met our GP, her name is Ruth, in her office instead of an examing room. She sat and talked to my wife and I and we explained in detail the events of the last year of our life together. Now we have had this woman as our primary doctor since she first hung out her shingle. She's cared for us, cared for our kids, and we watched her kids grow, had her husband and family over for cookouts and vice-versa. To us, she's always been like part of our family. I could Ruth she was trying her best not to show any emotion and keep our visit professional. As my wife and I were talking the doctor listened and was scanning through our files. Things went silent for a while and then the doctor said, we have many of your tests results back. She told my Wife, your pregnancy test was negative as were your hepatitis and hiv teats. I saw some relief show on my Wife's face, I had a vasectomy after our last child was born to free my wife of the burden of birth control pills, and I knew my Wife was scared shit-less she might have gotten herself pregnant, and her periods have been very irregular or non-existent this last year. The Doctor kept thumbing through papers and was muttering, these results have been back for some time now, you should have been notified. She stopped and said to my wife, your testosterone levels are extremely high, and your estrogen levels are lower than the last time we tested. The Doctor closed our files and placed them on the desk, then asked to be excused and quickly left the room. About 20 minutes later Ruth came in and sat on the corner of her desk in front of my Wife and took my Wife's hands in hers and said, from the episodes you discribed that have occured this last year,and your uncharacteristic risky behavior you recounted to me. I can't help but suspect that you are exhibiting the symptoms of a form of manic bi-polar disorder. She looked at both of us and said, I've made you an emegency appointment with a psychiatrist here in town who specializes in bi-polar disorders for later this morning. She wished us well then said, If there's anything you need me for, even if it's just to talk, I don't care what time it is, night or day, just call me. We thanked her, picked up the address to the psychiatrist and walked silently hand in hand out to the car. Once in the car my Wife couldn't hold back the tears and I held her as she sobbed. I kept telling her we'll get through this, we'll get through this, and we will come out stronger on the other side.

Ok I'm back..

The psychiatrist, his name is Ben. is one strange ass mother of a dude. ignoring that fact, he does seem to know his field and seems very

professional. And as the day progressed I found the mention of his name brought both snickers and high recommendations. It appears he is

considered one of the best psychiatrists in the state. Anyway Ben's close to my height and age, is skinny as a rail and has long dirty salt and

pepper hair. After reviewing the files our GP faxed him and examining my Wife and talking with us. Ben confirmed our GP's suspicion of bi-polar disease and says he beleives she has been having a Cyclothymia hypomanic episode, which is suppose to be a sub catagory of bi-polar and only occurs in roughly 1% of patients, since December of 2012 when she first felt the syptoms come on. He said a Cyclothymia hypomanic episode would explain her feelings of hyper-sexuality, paranoia, being combative and argumentative, and possessing an inflated sense of entitlement. Ben seems very fascinated with her discription of coming to her senses on D Day 1 when she saw me slump to the floor sobbing. He said he beleives it was the shock of seeing this that acted as a trigger and brought her into a functioning state of Cyclothymia and gave her the ability to fight her urges. He said at this point it's all speculative and conjecture, and there are still many areas of her life that will need to be explored. Ben gave us prescriptions for carbamazepine and lithium and also had the nurse bring a dose for my Wife to take immediately. He ordered labs and wanted an MRI and I asked if they could be scheduled for today. He said he'd do his best and left us alone. My Wife broke the silece with, this isn't fair. I said life isn't fair, but life is making something out of what life gives you. My Wife looked up and said, I mean this isn't fair to you. you don't deserve or should be expected to stand by a back stabbing vicious whore like me. I want you to file divorce papers today, I'll sign them. get away from me. do it for me if you won't do it for youself. Do it while I'm still at least this sane. I told her, I decided last night divorce is off the table. That's final. As far as reconciliation that can continue as it has been. I took her hand and said, this is what I want. I want our life back, I want a Wife who beleives our sex life is sacred and keeps our sex life only between us. If you want to be my whore, and only mine, I'll accept that. as long as it's kept between us and only us. I want my strong willed, rock of gibraltar Wife back. Can you live with that? She shook her head and said yes. I started to lean in to kiss her and Ben walked in with a nurse and he said to my Wife, the nurse here is going to escort you over to the lab and I would like you to chat with a colleague when you return, your husband will be waiting here for you. My Wife looked at me and I told her, go on with the nurse hon, I'll wait here. She thought for a second and then got up and left with the nurse. I knew Ben wanted to speak with me alone. As soon as the door closed Ben cleared his throat and said. Your Wife exhibits classic syptoms of a Cyclothymia hypomanic bi-polar disorder.

I'm back again:

The psychiatrist went on to lay out his plan of treatment, odds of relapse etc, he said from his experience he beleived there was about a 50%

chance of her descending into a full blown bi-polar disorder. He said one of the major hurdles of Cyclothymia hypomania was it did not respond

well to the drugs designed to treat it. He said there was a small chance this could develope into a chronic condition, but there was a much

larger chance it could disappear as quickly as it had appeared. He said not alot was understood about the hows or whys of this disorder.

I'm back again:

Then Ben asked, about your marriage? Where are you on reconciliation? I said it's moving along slowly but it's getting there. He said, speed

it up. Do you want to save this marriage? I said, yes. Does your Wife want to save this marriage? I said yes. He said then you are now reconciled. it's done, it's over, that's it. I looked at him and smiled and shook my head and he said, give your marriage another 30 years, if you can't make it work by then, come back and sue me. To get through this you need, your wife needs consistency, a solid foundation, surround yourselves with positive friends and family. If you believe in a higher being, Pray every day, Pray several times a day. You need everything and everyone working toward one goal, and that is your Wife living as close a normal and long healthy life as she is capable of. He said you look like you exercise, does your Wife? I said, she does most every day, I have work. He said, I want her doing some form of exercising for 30 minutes every day, and you join her too. Before I could respond he said, You need to stay healthy to be there for your Wife, plus it will be a bonding experience. Don't argue, just do it. Now sex, who holding out on who? I said she was ready to be intimate a month ago, I just haven't been ready. Ben said then get ready. I said it's not that simple. Ben said I noticed how attractive your Wife is. Are you queer or what? I said hell no!!! He said then get over it, and when you take your Wife home tonight, I want you to hammer her good. And then when your ready, give it to her again. And keep giving it to her until she begs you to stop. Are you capable of doing that? I said, Yes. He said, then do it. Ben stood up and came around and sat in the chair my Wife had occupied and said, I'm sorry for being crude, I know you must still feel pain, have many issues, and probably have a beaten up and bruised ego. But you brought your Wife to me, and now she's my patient, and I must attend to her needs and hers alone. These things must be done. Answer this question if you will. When a man marries a woman, and he makes the love of his life his Wife. What becomes his number one concern in life? I answered, His Wife's safty and wellbeing. He looked up to the ceiling and screamed, Hallelujah!!! Hallelujah!!! Hallelujah!!! Yes, His Wife's safty and well being. I couldn't have said it better myself. Notice you didn't say the husbands feelings, or his ego. You said her wellbeing. Ben stuck his hand out to me and said, are you and I good? I shook his hand and said, anything for my Wife.

Then Ben stood, patted me on the shoulder and said, let me check on your Wife. He stepped out and returned with my Wife and asked her to please

sit. He asked my Wife how she was feeling. She answered, I'm actually feeling good. I probably shouldn't, but I do. He said every person is

different. some react negatively to a diagnosis like yous, some are relieved to finally know what they're up against. He said, you have every

reason to hope for a positive outcome and either maintain this or one day beat this. He then invited us to sit in on goup meetings they have there 3 times a week. He called a nurse in to take my Wife's vitals again and then walked us down the hall to introduce us to his associate.

Ben's associate was also a psychiatrist. Her name is Jill. She is about my Wife's age, but carried a few extra pounds and has long reddish

dark hair and is about an inch taller than my Wife. She and my Wife seemed to hit it off immediately. We talked for a little over and hour,

from time to time Jill thumbed through my Wife's chart. Jill and my Wife carried most of the conversation which covered my Wife's syptoms,

children, shoes, boots, issues from my Wife's childhood, recipes and vacation spots. Jill leaned foward and took on a serious look and said, I'm so sorry but we need to discuss your afairs. She looked over to me and softly said, do you prefer to leave or prefer to stay? My Wife took my hand and said, you know everything I have done. I don't want you to have to go through this but please stay. She looked at Jill and said I have sworn to my Husband, To myself and to God I will never hide anything from this precious man again. I want him to stay. Jill looked to me and asked, Staying? and I responed, yes. It started out simple. How did she meet them, were their only 3. for some reason the word only pissed me off. Like oh it wasn't 200 or 300 but "only" 3. the questions seemed to be getting more specific. Did she ever get them all 3 together at one time? no. what about 2 at once? No. They went through each man's stats, how many orgasms per encounter. when it got to penis size I called a stop to it. My Wife was already sobbing and after each answer she was begging forgiveness, saying how sorry she was, wishing only to take it all back she seemed to be almost hysterical. Jill asked my Wife, do you want to stop here? My Wife said, no. Let's get it over with. I couldn't hold my tears back. My Wife still held my hand as she continued answering questions. At one point my Wife came and sat on my lap and cradled my head to her breast as she answered the last few questions. When it was finally over Jill came over and ran her hand down my Wife's hair to comfort her and asked my wife, you know why I had to ask those questions don't you? My Wife nodded her head and said my counselor did something simular and said I had to acknowledge and face my own demons. Jill said I'm proud of you. I looked up at my Wife and said so am I, I'm proud of you. My Wife buried her sobbing snotty face into my neck and said I pray someday you can find it in your heart to forgive me. I said, I don't think I'll ever forget, but I know one day I will forgive you. Then added, Since I know I will forgive someday it might as well be today. I lifted her head with my finger and looked into her eyes and said, I forgive you. for every thing. And I mean this, just promise me you will find the strength within yourself to never do anything like this again. She started sobbing again while swearing and promising me to never do anything to hurt me again. Jill spoke up and said, I'm going to give you two a little privacy, take as long as you need.

Maybe a half hour went by and we had composed ourselves enough to venture out to find a restroom to splash some cold water on our faces. We

found one but it was locked. My Wife volunteered to go to the front desk and get the key. She came back and handed me a folded paper and a card

and said, They couldn't get us into the MRI today, not until friday morning, that's the address and the card has my next appointment. Then she

handed me the key and said you go first. I unlocked the door found the light switch and then reached back and pulled my Wife in with me. She

whispered what are you doing? I said following your doctor's orders. Only he said to do this when we got home, so you'll also have another dose

coming to you when we get home. I turned my Wife around and said grab ahold of that sink, she did. I reached under her skirt and pulled her

panties down and helped each of her feet out of them. As I stood I locked eyes with my Wife in the mirror and that's when I noticed she was

trembling. I put my arms around her and asked, Do you want to do this? Her big brown eyes grew bigger and she shook her head yes. So I unzipped

my pants, bent my knees a bit and gave her what the doctor ordered. A minute or so later my Wife started cussing like a sailor at a gangbang.

She got so loud I finally reached around and grabbed her panties balled them up and said open your mouth she did and I shoved them in.

When I was finished administering the doctor's prescription, we straightened our clothes, splashed cold water on our faces the walked out into

the hall, I took her hand and we giggled all the wqy out to the car. It was getting dark so I asked where do you want to go eat? Almost

immediately my Wife said Denny's. I thought to myself how many years it had been since we had been there. I thought back to our first date when

this lanky blonde haired punk took the most beautiful girl in our town to Denny's. I remembered being scared shitless to ask her out, and then

my my legs almost buckling under me when she smiled and said yes. I remembered that after Denny's we went to a drive-in and the first feature

was a Burt Reynolds movie. I can't remember which one but I remember Burt. We started making out during the second feature which was a low

budget skin flick called The Hot Box. All they showed were boobs but there was alot of boobs in that movie. After a while of making out I made a

move to feel her blouse covered breast. She immediately slapped my face so hard I saw red and white stars. I still remember those stars like it

was yesterday. She glared at me and I swear her big brown eyes glowed red. She said how dare you!! I'm not that kind of girl!! And to think I

actually thought you were a nice guy. If that's the kind of girl you want you needn't bother asking for a second date. And you can take me home

now. As I rubbed my burning cheek for the first time in my life I actually felt ashamed for trying to feel a girl up. I looked over at her and

apologized. And I meant it. I said I'm so sorry I just got caught up in the moment and it just happened. That was partly true, I had been caught

up in the moment but the boob grab was premeditated. We made up a few minutes later, and made out till the movie was over. She forgave me and

agreed to go on a second date, then a third.....

After Denny's we had her precriptions filled and walked around the pharmacy picking up odds and ends till they were ready. On the way home I

told my wife since there were not going to be any more secrets I had a confession to make. She looked at me with her mouth open and said you're

kidding. I said what you think I'm perfect. She said well yeah. I said if you only knew my sordid past. I asked her remember our first date? She laughed and said yes. Remember when I touched your breast? she giggled and said yes. Remember when I apologize? My Wife said yes. Well that was only half true. She asked what part was a lie? I answered that it just happened. I was caught up in the moment, but touching your breast was premeditated, I planned that in advance and was just waiting for the right moment to make my move. My Wife said thank God. I'm glad it was on purpose. After your apology I felt so guilty for slapping you so hard. Now I know you got what you deserved. Now what about the other stuff you mentioned. I told her all of that stuff is before we met. And your not old enough to hear about those sordid times of my life. She asked when will I be old enough? I told her to ask me agian on our 50th anniversary.

Ok guys let me have it. Tell me what a fool I am. What can I say, she's my Wife. for better or for worse She's my Wife and my job is to protect and care for her. If I'm wrong I'll let God pass judgment on me in the next world.

Good Night..

BH 50 Me-Faithful, never cheated
WW 48 Her-Cheated repeatedly with 3 STD infested so called men

Four Kids 28, 25, 22, 19

DDay 1 11/24/2013
DDay 2 12/11/2013

"the greater the obstacle, the more glory in overcoming it"

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BeautifulEmpty ( member #38763) posted at 9:05 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

I've read this whole thing and I'm really torn.

A LOT of it sounds like what happened in my first marriage at the end but instead of getting me help for my clearly bizarre behavior (10 years of faithful wifey/mommy to utterly crazy bdsm focused party girl overnight), he chose to intentionally set me up so he could wipe me off his shoes.

Honestly, it hurts but I also don't entirely blame him. I understand a lot more than I did then and he was not remotely prepared to deal with a full blown manic episode that lasted a long time and was horrendous and confusing for us both.

...So, from that perspective I understand quite a bit.

During that time, I also went from homemaker to working in an adult store. It was owned by women and considered a "teaching" store. Much nicer than the dark shame holes men sneak into to anonymously buy their porn. I was one of two bdsm gurus.

There was a customer who would come in all the time to ask the various shop staff for a particular type of video. A very specific fetish.

Please bear with me everyone, I have a reason for telling this story.

Everyone hated it when he targeted them and everyone had been warned that it would eventually happen.

Then, he met me...Ms. Proactive.

I went way out of my way to get the owner to purchase just the kind of video this guy had been bugging the staff FOR YEARS for. It wasn't anything perverse or even eyebrow raising..just there was no money in this kind generally speaking. I figured he'd been asking for years so why not just humor him?

Anyways, the day comes when he shows up and makes his usual request and I get to triumphantly show him what I got for him.

You know what?

He didn't want it.

Not only did he not want it, he never came back.

You know why?

His fetish wasn't the video or what was in it.

His fetish was TALKING to the pretty staff members about it.

You know, giving the very intimate details...the specifics.

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I'll leave that open to interpretation.

I've certainly lived all sides of this. I get it and I'm still paying for one massively destructive bipolar festival so yes, this can happen to the most normal, reliable and even loyal person out there. It happens.

Kudos to you for seeing a problem and instead of making things worse or outright ditching her, choosing to get help.

Or maybe you fall into the second possibility. I really don't know.

If you are in the first, do not get tangled up in anything coming out of her manic episode. Nothing. You will feed a beast that can get up to serious antics all by its self but will rage out of control if fed. I got my very conservative, businessman ex wound up into horrendous things most people would consider complete, whack job abominations and it helped absolutely nothing. I feel deep and completely regrettable shame for the parts I remember of that time.

Your job as her spouse is to keep things calm and even so as not to provoke cyclothymia or outright mania but I'm sure the doc told you that. You are going to have to be on your toes for the signs but you sound dedicated so good luck.

I wish you well.

Me: 44 BS
Him: 40 FWS
Ow: 47 head case, no obs
5 DD's: 23, 20, 19, 17, 12
Last D-day: August 2012 with lots of very blurry lines.

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Dreamland ( member #40488) posted at 10:14 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

Is it just me or am I reading some romance 50 grey shades novela.... Sorry I'm not buying this whole thing.

Good luck

Me-BS 50 Him-WH 47, DD17
Together since 1993, Married 19 yrs
DDay 3/12,4/12,7/12 EA-PA OW - 25 single husband chasing bastard whore

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makes me mad ( member #32125) posted at 10:28 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

Yep, me too, I've been thinking about this for the last half hour,

it started giving me the creeps about the "your my little whore' bit yesterday, but there is something not right here

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allatsea ( member #38923) posted at 11:00 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

yeah something seems a bit funny about this thread.

Too much sexual intimacy being shared for no obvious benefit to the reader. Someone is getting off on sharing this.

I think Leon or his WW (or both) is getting gratification for sharing these stories or fantasies.

We all know that she reads this so it's not a genuinely safe place for Leon to post.

I'm suspicious

You can't fix crazy. All you can do is document it

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olwen ( member #39759) posted at 11:00 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

Ditto

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Betrayed67 ( member #38134) posted at 11:17 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

mmmmm..

Me-BW 46 yo;Him - WH 53 yo
Married 13years
One daughter together 9yo, 2 stepchildren(His from previous marriage)
Various DDdays (see my profile)
ONS and multiple "friendships" with women in various online dating sites

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JustAShadow ( member #38370) posted at 12:35 PM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

Yeah, this last post doesn't sit well with me either. Too much romance novel writing and somehow I have a hard time believing that a psychiatrist would insist that good and consistent banging be in order.

Per the DSM-IV a diagnosis of Cyclothymic Disorder would require at least 2 years of both hypomania & depression (without a normal mood lasting longer than 2 months over that two years). Now, if there were only hypomanic periods over that time then it would be referred to as Bipolar Disorder NOS (Not Otherwise Specified). I include this just as another indication that the items in the last post don't quite add up (only hypomanic episodes have been talked about and the timeline written about seems to be about a year).

My H is a mental health professional who both does initial diagnoses of things such as bipolar (which are then confirmed or corrected by the advising psychiatrist) and provides ongoing therapy for those diagnosed with severe issues (such as bipolar) to help them manage their symptoms.

ETA: I'm not trying to armchair diagnose, just adding a different layer of info to go on top of the weird vibes I have that are resulting from the last post.

[This message edited by JustAShadow at 6:52 AM, January 9th (Thursday)]

ME: 41 - Madhatter, 2 PAs, 1997, 2003
Him: 35 - Madhatter, 2 PAs, 2004, 3/2012 - 3/2014
Status: Living Apart

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cliffside ( member #38803) posted at 1:47 PM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

Ben said I noticed how attractive your Wife is. Are you queer or what? I said hell no!!! He said then get over it, and when you take your Wife home tonight, I want you to hammer her good. And then when your ready, give it to her again. And keep giving it to her until she begs you to stop. Are you capable of doing that? I said, Yes.

Wait, Ben didn't propose a three way??? Also your should be "you're".

Me: BS 39
Him: WH 41
2 Kids
D-Day: 2/3/13
Broke NC 3/14, broke again 1/23/15
180ing, in a state of WTFness

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Kelany ( member #34755) posted at 1:51 PM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

My husband has cyclothymia.

There is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL she'd get a diagnosis in a couple of hours. My husband had to go through a series of testing that took quite some time.

And what doctor would ask a patient's husband if he was "queer"?

Seriously?

I've been doubting this story for the past few days, just didn't want to say anything.

Today, I'm POSITIVE this is one big hoax.

BS - Me
SA/FWH Him
DDay 1 - Jul 11
DDay 2 - Jul 12
R Dec 12

Former 80s Icon wishful thinking

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wifehad5 ( Administrator #15162) posted at 2:01 PM on Thursday, January 9th, 2014

People, stop. If you have a problem with a poster, ignore them,or PM a mod so they can look into it. Piling on here isn't very supportive.

I'm going to lock this while we get clarification from the OP

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