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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 6:52 AM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

This is just really the suck.

I wrote out this long detailed story just now & then deleted it. The cliff notes version is that my daughter was touched inappropriately by a boy in her pre-K class & had to be interviewed by DCS today. The DCS lady told me that DD was "guarded" in talking about it & seemed to feel like she was to blame for not telling the teacher (she told me). She said she's going to follow up in a month & if DD is having issues she will refer us to a therapist.

My poor kid. :(

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Tawnee1969 ( member #12358) posted at 7:13 AM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

((Jana))

I know you feel for your daughter but I feel it was being interviewed that may have made her nervous.

How old was the little boy that touched her?

I am only asking as the Mum of 2 boys I know that they are fascinated by genitals. more their own than anyone else's.

It may have been done entirely innocently, the whole I'll show you mine if you show me yours kind of thing.

I really hope that that is the case and that there wasn't anything more sinister in it.

Is the f*cking you're getting, worth the f*cking you're getting?

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woundedby2 ( member #18522) posted at 7:41 AM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

(((Jana)))

I'm so sorry that this has happened to your sweet baby.

In 2010 I divorced the NPD assclown who cheated on me with my best friend.

Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences.
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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 11:58 AM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

Unfortunately there was more to it than just that, tawnee. He also has a history of being very disruptive and violent, and he said some things during all this that are huge red flags.

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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 12:25 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

The interview, fortunately, took place in a child-friendly advocacy center. Coincidentally DH & I have done a lot of charity work with this organization so we know the director and their processes. As we were leaving DD said, "I thought that would be scary but it was fun!" Poor little guy.

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Tawnee1969 ( member #12358) posted at 12:33 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

Well it's great that the centre jumped in so quick when it happened.

Sometimes the signs of things not being "right" show up at an early age.

I hope your little one is ok now.

Is the f*cking you're getting, worth the f*cking you're getting?

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betrayedfriend ( member #19785) posted at 2:56 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

I went through this when my dd9 was in preschool, I'd be happy to pm with you about it if you'd like.

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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 3:04 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

Thank you betrayedfriend - I sent you a PM.

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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 3:04 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

Thank you betrayedfriend - I sent you a PM.

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idkam ( member #18375) posted at 3:43 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

Thats pretty scary to think a child would be faced with something like this but it does happen... A friend of my coworker had to pull her girls out of schoo..the 8 year old was being harrassed dsily by a lil boy... He would pull ip her dress rub on her legs, as well as dhow her his private parts... poor girl was horrified...

I'm so glad she tild her mom...

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abbycadabby ( member #27428) posted at 3:57 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

First off, hugs to you and your precious dd. I'm so sorry she experienced that.

(((JanaGreen & DD)))

Secondly, this post is very chilling for me. For a couple of reasons:

1) My DS has had issues with touching. I've never heard that any of it is inappropriate (he DID touch a teacher's rear end but I've never been told he touched another person's genitals) but it makes my blood literally run cold to think that one day he might do something like this, innocently, that will be construed as inappropriate. He has ADHD and thus has difficulty controlling his impulses. We are working with a behavioral therapist to correct this behavior. In the meantime, it literally terrifies me to think about what could happen if he doesn't keep his hands to himself.

2) You don't post details but if the touching incident with your dd was enough to get DCS involved, what the boy did had to be pretty bad. If the way he touched your daughter was sexual in nature, it makes me wonder just exactly what HE himself has experienced to make him behave this way at his age. I'm sure the investigation will uncover this if anything exists and get him the help he needs.

WHERE'S THE PUDDING?!

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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 4:09 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

Abby, this child has issues beyond impulse control. There was another little girl involved as well, he touched my daughter and exposed himself to the other girl (while telling my daughter to "close her eyes" while the other girl had "her turn"). This kid had punched my daughter two days prior, and she didn't want to pull down her pants (that's what he asked her to do, then he touched her), she said she was afraid if she didn't he would "just do it anyway," because apparently, according to the other little girl's mom, he pulled her pants down himself. I understand that curiosity and some touching does happen at this age, but the way the situation went down was beyond what I understand as normal. Also, the way the little boy did this - where the girls were in relation to the teacher, and her line of sight - I really believe he waited for an opportunity to do this. Oh, and in talking to the other mother, he had also punched her daughter as well. I'm not talking just rough-housing that went too far, he PUNCHED our girls completely unprovoked. He was wild and violent (my daughter told me that he "teared up the class every day").

I think DCS is getting involved for exactly the reasons you stated in your second point, Abby. And assuming this child has been molested, whoever victimized him also indirectly victimized my child and her best friend.

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simplydevastated ( member #25001) posted at 4:17 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

(((Hugs))) To you JanaGreen and your daughter. I'm so sorry she had to go through that.

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abbycadabby ( member #27428) posted at 4:19 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

Oh gosh. Poor kids. All of them.

I hope I'm wrong, but to be that hypersexual at that age there HAS to be more to the story for this poor boy.

What's even MORE telling is the fact that he's using threats of force/violence to accomplish it. That signifies to me (and I'm no professional) that this is not just normal/typical childhood curiosity. It really breaks my heart to think of what he might've gone through.

((((JanaGreen & DD and all involved))))

[This message edited by abbycadabby at 10:20 AM, April 11th (Friday)]

WHERE'S THE PUDDING?!

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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 4:34 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

Now, I don't think he directly threatened her that day, but I think her fear of him in general played a part in why she complied (Also, I told her that when someone asked her to do something she didn't want to, that she didn't have to, and she replied, with a very confused look on her face, "But he said please, Mommy.") I think she feels guilty, especially since she told the advocacy worker that she didn't tell the teacher and felt like she should have. I want to talk to her some more and repeat that it's not her fault, she's not in trouble, etc. But I don't want to keep bringing it up either.

[This message edited by JanaGreen at 10:34 AM, April 11th (Friday)]

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lynnm1947 ( member #15300) posted at 8:02 PM on Friday, April 11th, 2014

Edited because I misunderstood a previous post.

[This message edited by lynnm1947 at 2:03 PM, April 11th (Friday)]

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woundedby2 ( member #18522) posted at 2:25 AM on Saturday, April 12th, 2014

I want to talk to her some more and repeat that it's not her fault, she's not in trouble, etc. But I don't want to keep bringing it up either.

Let me preface my comments by saying that my DD was molested by her brother when she was 14, so I've walked a very similar path.

What you have stated here is very important and so difficult. I remember not wanting to further traumatize her or cause her to relive the thing over and over again, but then I didn't want to ignore the huge elephant in the room either. I wanted to console, to affirm, to be there for her.

I would suggest you contact the DCS agent for guidance on how to handle this. And definitely go in and talk to a counselor and ask him/her how to deal with this so as to not further traumatize your child. Plus you need an outlet for your own fears and emotions. The county may have resources for you as well.

I do know that every retelling of the story causes retraumatization. Since law enforcement and the courts were in involved in our situation, my DD was brought to an office where she was interviewed, recorded and filmed (behind 1 way glass) by one agent with multiple agencies observing. This was to reduce further trauma and to eliminate the need for her to give testimony in court, were it ever needed.

We got my DD into therapy within a week. She recommended a book called "Trauma through a child's eyes". You might look it up.

Here is a link to the Child Sexual Abuse section of the Rainn.org website. After my DD disclosed to me, this agency helped me understand what had happened, how to respond, and helped me report it.

http://www.rainn.org/get-information/types-of-sexual-assault/child-sexual-abuse

I'm so sorry you and your DD are going through this.

In 2010 I divorced the NPD assclown who cheated on me with my best friend.

Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences.
~Robert Louis Stevenson

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 JanaGreen (original poster member #29341) posted at 3:13 AM on Saturday, April 12th, 2014

Wounded. Thank you so so much. I'm so sorry your daughter had to go through that, and you too. :(

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Jrazz ( member #31349) posted at 3:14 AM on Saturday, April 12th, 2014

I'm so sorry... poor sweetheart.

"Don't give up, the beginning is always the hardest." - Deeply Scared's mom

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LosferWords ( member #30369) posted at 3:27 AM on Saturday, April 12th, 2014

I don't have any words or advice, Jana... just sending you and your family strength and support. I am so sorry.

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