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Obsession Getting Worse

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 hurtininHouston (original poster member #39250) posted at 9:37 PM on Wednesday, May 14th, 2014

It has been 14 months since DDay. We have been going okay for that time in R. She is very remorseful, out of the blue here and there she will offer up that she is sorry for what she did. Or thank me for giving her a 2nd chance. Those times help. I am not sure if this is a stage I am going through or what. But I am more obsessed with the thoughts of them together. What she did. What he did to her. I can't quit replaying them in my head. I am thinking about it more now as well when we are having sex. did he do this, did he do that, did she...... blah blah blah.

I know what they did. Supposedly know how long they did it for, how he did it. But still I keep playing it over and over and over. I am so fucking tired. I know she is hurting. I know she is guilty. It has ruined her relationship with her favorite sister! I know that crushes her. But I am still so angry! I wasn't perfect. Some of my actions probably propogated her decision. But that doesn't help or make me feel any better. Where is my epiphany..... when can I tell myself, yup that's it. No more dwelling on it. I am only hurting myself at this point, and I am so gosh darn good at it.......

my username says it all!!!!!!

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kenny55 ( member #23014) posted at 12:21 AM on Thursday, May 15th, 2014

Hugs to you. I have had the same experience and cannot get it out of my head either. I think we both keep thinking that maybe it was a dream.

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2married2quit ( member #36555) posted at 4:10 AM on Thursday, May 15th, 2014

Time. At some point you make the conscious effort to let it go. I'm still in the process.

BS - Me 47 WS - Her 45 ( she's a childhood sexual abuse survivor)
DDAY -#1- June 2012/ #2 -June 2015 / #3-August 2015
Married 25yrs. 2kids
She had 2 affairs with two different men.
Status: divorced.

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kansas1968 ( member #32214) posted at 4:24 AM on Thursday, May 15th, 2014

Time, time, time. It is really the only thing that lessens the obsession. I remember a post on this site about obsession and I am going to look for it and post it for you. This whole business has been one of the most exhausting things I have ever been through. Much better now though, but it has been three and a half years.

Me - BS
Him - FWS
DD - December 14, 2010
Married 43 years 1/14/2011
Affair lasted 7+ years
Affair had been over for 2 years before I found out. OW sent me a letter.

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kansas1968 ( member #32214) posted at 4:27 AM on Thursday, May 15th, 2014

OK. Here is the post on obsession.

It was posted by someone dealing with obsession as he explains in the first part of this. Then he posts the article he found. Hope it helps.

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So I am going to be taking a break from this site for a while. As reconciliation is going VERY well I find myself still obsessing about infidelity (The Subject, Healing, Pain, Triggers and Everything surrounding it) I don't want it to define me anymore. My mind needs to take a break. But I found this article about Obsessive Thoughts and Found it very insighful. So I am giving it a try. Hope this helps any of you that has been doing what I have been. How to Stop Obsessive Thoughts?

Written by: Sen - CalmDownMind.com

If you have reached a point in your life where you want to be rid of the continuous torture of the “thought generating” mind then it’s your good fortune. Obsessive or negative thoughts can make living miserable when you are plagued by them, but this very situation can become the invitation to transcend mind and be free of suffering forever.

Can you stop obsessive thoughts? – If you could it would be great, but the truth is that it’s slightly more complicated than just suppressing your thoughts which at-most you can do for a few seconds. Plus suppressing thoughts is even worse than enduring thoughts. It builds up a lot of negative energy inside.

So how to stop thinking horrible thoughts? The secret to stopping obsessive or negative thoughts is to detach from the mind. You cannot fight mind with the mind. That’s what this article is about. Let’s look at this in more detail.

What Causes Obsessive Thoughts?

If you generated thoughts, you could’ve controlled them too. The truth is that you don’t generate thoughts, the mind does. It’s on auto mode most of the time. You can see this for yourself, can you predict what you will think 30 seconds from now? If you can’t how can you assume that you are generating the thoughts?

If you believe that you are your mind, that’s a false notion again. If you are your mind then how can you observe the thoughts? So you must be separate from the mind to see what the mind is doing.

So the mind generates thoughts, which are mostly just energy forms. These thoughts pass through like clouds. We identify with some of these thoughts and obsess about them. So in truth all thoughts are just neutral energy forms, it’s “your” interest or association with the thoughts that makes them obsessive. If you can understand this truth, you have taken the first step towards getting rid of obsessive thoughts.

How to Stop Obsessive Negative Thoughts?

If you are asking this question, ask yourself another question – “is this question not another thought? It’s a thought about killing thoughts”. All your attempts at suppressing and stopping thoughts will fail because you will be using the mind to stop the mind. The police man and thief are both the mind, so how can the police man catch the thief?

So you cannot kill the mind by force. The mind dies its own death by the poison of disassociation.

What gives power to a thought? – Your interest. If you have no interest in a particular thought then it loses its hold over you. You can try this out now. Let the thoughts flow through your mind but don’t take interest in them. Just stay as a bystander or a watcher and let the thoughts float.

Initially you might have a hard time watching thoughts because of your inherent habit of associating with each thought that arises. It helps to know that you are not your thoughts, that thoughts are just energy forms created in the mind. Why does the mind create thoughts? No one knows – it’s just something it does, why bother. Do you ever ask why does the heart beat?

With a little practice you will get really good at watching thoughts and not involving yourself with them. You will stop giving power to thoughts by not giving them your interest. Thoughts die immediately when they are deprived of this fuel of interest. If you don’t associate with the thought or give power to the thought, it will wither away quickly.

What Are Thoughts?

Past events get stored as memories. Your mind conditioning and beliefs are also stored as memories. All this is unconscious storage; the mind does all this in auto mode. Perceptions and interpretations are created in the mind based on its past “external” conditioning and also its natural conditioning (genetics). These interpretations, perceptions and judgments come up as thoughts in the mind, and they can positive or negative depending on the mind’s conditioning. Thoughts are generated based on the past incidents/memories, future projections and interpretations on the present life situation. It’s like a computer trying to predict or conjure up projection based on the data it has collected so far.

When thoughts are negative in nature (thoughts of worry, anxiety, stress, lack, resentment, guilt etc) they produce resistance to the movement of your life, and this resistance is felt as suffering. Negative thoughts will always stand in resistance to the movement of your life, like blocks of stone in the midst of a swift current of water. Life is a stream of pure positive energy and hence any negative thought will stand in opposition to it, causing friction which is felt as suffering in the body.

The thoughts in your mind gain power from your attention and interest. Your attention is the fuel for your mind. So when you give attention to negative thoughts in the mind, you are unconsciously fueling it and thus attracting more momentum for these negative thoughts. The momentum of negative thoughts in your mind will slow down, and ebb away, automatically when you stop feeding your attention to it. Stay as an open space of awareness without contracting your attention on the negative thoughts of the mind, and soon they will lose their momentum.

You can focus on the positive thoughts generated in the mind, and thus develop a positive momentum in your mind. Every time your mind produces some positive thoughts, e.g thoughts of love, joy, excitement, abundance, beauty, appreciation, passion, peace etc, focus on it, milk it, and give attention to it. This will cause your mind to attract more positive thoughts and thus build a positive momentum. Whenever it thinks negatively, don’t give it attention or interest, this will cause the ebbing away of the momentum of negative thinking. It’s really that simple. Once you understand the mechanics of how thoughts gain momentum in the mind, you will be in total control of your state of being.

The Practice of Watching the Mind

All you need to do to get rid of obsessive thoughts is to watch the mind without getting involved. You will get really good at this with just a little practice. This practice, or “sadhana” as called in Hindu scriptures, is the root of awakening from the illusion of mind.

Without trying to understand this practice just implement it. The more you try to understand the more mind gets involved. Just watch the mind and you will soon see that you are not the mind at all. That the mind is like a machine in your head that generates thoughts based on your attention/interest. Be free of your mind by depriving it of your interest. This is the only direct path of becoming free of the mind.

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Me - BS
Him - FWS
DD - December 14, 2010
Married 43 years 1/14/2011
Affair lasted 7+ years
Affair had been over for 2 years before I found out. OW sent me a letter.

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Mac4 ( member #43122) posted at 2:29 PM on Thursday, May 15th, 2014

HurtininHoustin & Kenny 55 - I too have thoughts that I would like to get out of my mind. They are not as frequent or as powerful as they were initially, but they are still there with me everyday. Hugs to you both, hang in there.

appreciate the thoughtful article from Kansas, I'm going to give that a try

BS me 41
WW 42
Married 11 years
R for now I guess
DD 9 & DS 8
DDay 2 (PA) - March 3rd, 2014
DDay 1 (EA) - July 2nd, 2011

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 hurtininHouston (original poster member #39250) posted at 3:51 PM on Thursday, May 15th, 2014

Thanks for the response. Mind over mind. Easier said than done. The sun is shining. The temp is cool. It is a beautiful day. It is a beautiful day. It is a beautiful day. If that could be the thought I had all day.! :)

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msmanders ( new member #43412) posted at 5:30 PM on Thursday, May 15th, 2014

hurtin-

I share your feelings. I try very hard to not think of him with her. I try very hard to be intimate, even knowing what they did. I do think the article on obsessive thoughts is a good one, but is that what will console me at night, when it's dark and lonely and all I have are those obsessions? I'm not sure. I am trying very hard to make them leave my head, to tell them they can't stay there, that they have no home in my memory. And I hate them. I hate the thoughts. I hate the time they consume and the pressure of making them leave! I'm sorry for your feelings, as I have them too. I have the anxiety that comes with them, the set backs in R because of them, the desire to hit something when they show up. I hope that you will be relieved of these thoughts sometime soon, as I hope to be relieved. At least a little.

MsManders

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20WrongsVs1 ( member #39000) posted at 6:03 PM on Thursday, May 15th, 2014

Not qualified to comment on the rest, but this...

Some of my actions probably propogated her decision.

Nope. Not one. Nothing you did, or failed to do, contributed to her decision to cheat.

fWW: 42
BH: 52
DDay: April 21, 2013
Sweet DS & fierce DD, under 10
Former motto: "Fake it till ya make it." Now: "You can't win if you don't play."

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 hurtininHouston (original poster member #39250) posted at 3:34 PM on Friday, May 16th, 2014

Its funny, I have been going through this for over a year. I still go back to a saying I heard from a website. Thoughts that never leave the mind or are never said, only hurt the thinker. I love that saying. However, I as of lately don't feel like letting my thoughts leave my mind. Therefor I guess I like torturing myself.

I find it easier not getting "into" it as opposed to stuffing it down.

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