This part was going on at the same time I was using my WW's account to talk to the OM I was talking to his Wife:
ME: ****, I'm terribly sorry to be the one to tell you this.
I come from a place of pain because a couple years ago I caught my wife cheating on me with my (now ex) Best Friend of 30 years.
Their affair went on for 6 months. I had a lot of gut instincts but never did anything about them. I WON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE.
I know this sucks with you being pregnant and all but a couple of nights ago your husband, who apparently has been going at it on
facebook with my wife sent her a message that I was able to intercept. It appears to me they have been hooking up.
I recommend you do not react to this right away but take the time to get onto his facebook and investigate further.
I'm SO SORRY that I have to be the one to share this with you.
<Screen Shot of his chat with my wife>
BS: Can you tell me when that message was from??
And what you plan to do about it?
ME: It was 1238 in the morning after we came back from the beach. 22nd I think.
BS: Of July??
ME: Yea.. like a coup.e days agao this is him now.. <Screen shot of me as WW chatting with him and him commenting on her deleting stuff>
ME: I'm messaging him from her account He is telling her to block me or him to block me and to tell me that "nothing happened"
ME: Well I'm sorry but something DID happen. A MARRIED MAN with another kid on the way doesn't message a MARRIED woman at 12:30 in the morning inviting her to come to his office to have sex.
I didn't get the screenshot for all of that but that's what they were talking about and from the tone of his "come over" and her replay saying she couldn't because I was home that they HAVE hooked up
BS: Ok It's not something I'm surprised by. Just surprised it's continued Please don't tell him I know anything
ME: I'm sorry. Like I said, a couple of years ago she cheated on me with my best friend. Do you think they hooked up?
BS: Sorry, I'm not trying to sound rude but have I ever met either of you?
ME: lol.. I don't think so. You almost met me at the ******. I have watched your husbands outgoing persona on facebook and thought he would be a cool guy to be friends wtih.
BS: So how does he know "My wife's name" ? Just from fb?
ME: The ONLY reason that I'm not posting this all over the community pages and sending it to his is because of you. Because you are expecting another baby.
ME: I think she only knows him through FB. She has his number in her phone under "****" though
BS: Hmm ok
I appreciate the self control, thank you
ME: You should head over to "survivinginfidelity.com" and check it out. There are a lot of resources there that have helped me a lot.
based on your past with him, do yo uthink they hooked up or were just flirting?
BS: I can't guess at wether there has been anything going on between them. He's a terrible flirt and hasn't been completely faithful
But thought we were past all of that
If he knew her a year ago if say yes for sure
BS: That's why I'm more surprised that he has so recently been starting that up again
ME: The fact that she has been (ineffectivly) deleting his messages is what hurts me the most. I can't trust her to tell me the truth now.
The worst part is that this past thursday was our 15th anniversary. I spent almost all of it having mini panic attacks and checking her online stuff repeatedly.
BS: And that's the crappy part. You can't love without trust. I've had to try for over a year to do just that
ME: IF she had TOLD me about this flirting and IF she hadn't ever deleted anyting I would have read the messages and had a laugh or two MAYBE. At the very least I would trusted her. I can't trust her now. At all.
BS: Flirting isn't harmless Someone is getting hurt
ME: No one is perfect. All I ask of her is for our marriage to grow TOGETHER.
All I expect of her is to not hide things from me.
I can pretty much deal with her crap either way.
I will be going for an STD test soon. I need to make absolutely sure of this.
BS: I'm sorry it's been a rough go for the two of you. And I'm sorry that he seems to have started the issue up again for you. I expect 100% faithfulness to me, no exceptions. And that was promised
ME: IF anything does come up I will let you know because you are pregnant and your baby could be at risk because of his behaviour
BS: That's ok, I've already gone down that road. Part of prenatal screening.
ME: Faithfullness comes in many forms. For me it simply means not doing something behind my back that you wouldn't do in front of me. By deleting his messages she knew 100% that she was fucking wrong to be doing it.
BS: Believe it or not, that's the only thing I do trust. He might flirt and even mess around but he's never had sex with them
ME: Well I don't trust her to possibly not have done someithng with someone else too and given shit to your hubby. "-(
Sounds like you are in as much denial as I am. LOL
BS: Possibly. But I've been through this. And one thing he has been is brutally honest when confronted.
ME: She was very verry honest with me with my BFF
Partly because I had 450 email messages and text messages so she couldn't hide it AND
BS: I hope for my kids sake it didn't go that far. Or our marriage is over
ME: I confronted my xBFF and he confirmed
BTW...
I'm fucking with him on his chat with my wife's account....
I said "He says he is going to plaster the info all over the community facebook pages and send copies to your boss because he sees you invited me over to your work to have sex."
I won't, again for YOU and your children's sake because I don't want them to get hurt.
ME:
Thank you
But I swear I thought really long and hard and very angrily about doing that!!! LOL
BS: I would too
Both of us live very public lives because of our work
I've finally gotten to a place of financial independence (if need be) and it would kill me professionally
ME: I figured as much. You guys have very open profiles.
That's how I know about you and feel a sense of concern for you and your kids.
BS: Public humiliation would be the way to make his heart stop. I'm sure he's sweating now
ME: I felt I should tell you all of this to protect you from him and his behavious. I wished that someone had been upfront and told me about my wife
Is he home?
BS: I understand.
We are at the trailer
I heard his messages binging. He turned the sound off
He has a brutal temper so there's no way I'll be confronting him here , now.
I'm just trying to stay calm
ME: OUCH. I'm sorry to hear that.
so he seems pretty clear that nothing happened beyond chatting.. (yet?) What if I hadn't stopped it?
BS: I know it sounds naive BUT this is why I chose to keep trying and to rebuild some trust. He's never to my knowledge taken it that far physically. It's all ego for him
ME: But it's not right if it's behind your back.
BS: It's not right period.
BS: Do you plan to confront "My wife's name" ?
ME: I already confronted her.
I told her to sit down and shut up and watch this.
BS:And
ME:She is swearing up and down it was just chatting
It doesn't change the fact it REALLY HURT
BS: Agreed
ME:specifically because she was lying and doing it behind my back.
After all we went thourhg.
BS: It destroys any sliver of trust I had
ME: my exBFF and I were friends for 30 years.
I was devistated and depression cost me my last job.
You say he is violent?
BS: No
Just hot tempered
ME: I am too. I swore and spit fire at her tonight. I would never hit her though.
BS: My kids have been through enough crap
I can handle anything but they shouldn't have to
I will be talking to him. Just have to time it right
ME: Do you have access to his facebook and email passwords?
BS: Thank you for being honest. And for being big enough to not react
I did. Unless he changed them
ME: Then you should log in and have a look. He MIGHT be deleting messages though.
I had to do something else to track her which I don't want to discuss or give away right now with her looking over my shoulder.
BS: I will
ME: Hey, where's your trailer? Is it nice there?
shit!
My wife just told me
BS: If I ask him he will tell me. Always has
ME: it's *****
We are going up there in a couple of weeks. crap
BS: Yup
Guess our spouses will need curfews. Sheesh.
ME: This really sucks because I thought that you guys seemed like a cool couple and was hoping that we could all be friends
BS: It's like living with a 16 yr old most days
BS: We are cool. And totally messed up
ME: Yea. we are pretty bent and twisted
You know that song by pink?
BS: Um yah not true. More like a year ago
ME: Yea.. he's lying to her.. what an ass (sorry.. I know he's your ass) <Screenshot of him saying he told his wife>
lol
BS: Nice of him to assume I'm forgiving
ME: Are you feeling any calmer?
BS: He's had it too good
ME: He said " you were disappointed"
BS: Nope
Still ready to kill him
ME: Wish I could help you in some way.
BS: Theoretically
ME: lol yea
I know. then I think about how my kids would grow up "orphans"
BS: You have. It's better to know
Just really really sucks. I thought we were past this crap
ME: Yea... I've been having panic attacks all week.
He clearly has some sort of sex addiction or something. He needs help. So does she.
BS: Yes. I agree. Too bad he doesn't see it
It's always me that's the problem
So I change. Over and over. But it doesn't matter
ME: It's not you. You shouldn't have to change.
BS: It's sad
ME: They have NO RIGHT to do this to us. They made promises to us and while we aren't perfect, they can't stop breaking them.
Now he is telling her it's Getting Out of hand.
BS: Yeah no kidding
ME: I think he is freaking out lol
I see him typing and typing and typing.
"she" told him he needs to apologize to me directly.
Apparently "this is on your end"
BS: Honestly, very little of this behaviour hurts me anymore. What kills me is that it hurts our kids big time.
ME: he thinks my wife needs to fix this for him
BS: Of course
ME: I wish i were there in person.. I would give you a completely platonic christian-side hug
I hate that I bought this on to you and your family
BS: Haha
That was funny
You didn't bring anything. This was his choice
ME: And her's. I didn't get to see who started it.
Wait.. She says he did.
BS: He's never had to deal with consequences ever. He was spoiled
ME: Not sure I turst her
Why would his public embarassment affect you professionally?
BS: Unless she's a bigger flirt than he is, I'd believe her
ME: Another thing that pissed me off with her lies...
BS: Because a very large number of his influential friends/clients are also mine
ME: was that I was fishing a bit and asked her if she thought asian guys were cute and she was very clear that they weren't her type. lies and bullshit
You MIGHT lose a few of his friends and clients...
but most would go on YOUR side. No one sides with a cheater.
BS: You'd be surprised how convincing he is at playing the victim
ME: I just played it up that she told me that he said sorry and I said "fuck you" You are going to go down.
I'm sorry.. I just want the guy to sqirm a bit. I hope that he gets a REALLY GOOD scare into him and maybe it helps you.
BS: I agree
He's not a bad guy
He's pretty amazing
Just really messed up from life
And needs help
I can only be and do so much
ME: Yea.. like I said, he seems cool. The truth is I'm having a bit too much fun messing with him. I think I'm possibly evil...lol
What do you mean you can be only so much?
BTW he blocked me on Fb so I can't even send him a personal message.
You are, from what I see on facebook, an amazing woman and mother. My wife (as silly as this sounds) thinks the world of you. Too bad she didn't respect you enough to stop his flirting though.
"she" just told him that he should be man enopugh to message me directly
, I hope you take deep breaths and remember that you have some really cute amazing kids that need you more than anything.
And that you have a new little one growing inside you that needs you to be healthy.
BS: He has an addictive personality. As in he gets addicted to whatever provides a distraction. Smoking, girls, motorcycles , food
I can't fill whatever void he keeps trying to fill
I've given up trying
ME: I have an addictive personallity and I will be open and tell you that I like porn a bit too much. The difference is I look at it in front of my wife.
You CAN'T and SHOULDN'T be filling any voids for him!!!!
BS: Yes but that's my personality. Lol. I'm a saviour
ME: You are a whole person and he should be a whole person and the two of you should come together as two whole people.
Yea.. that was my xBFF's thing. When my wife was depressed he decided to try and HELP her. Asshole.
BS: I agree. Unfortunately there aren't very many whole people
ME: I have a saying that we are all messed up and we need to find someone who's messedupedness works with our own.
OK, I'm going to try and sleep. I have to get up at 5 am to go to work. That's REALLY going to suck.
BS: I don't have hard feelings for "My wife's name". I understand the temptation. I just figure since I've never ever even played with that fire , then others should have the same will power
ME: HE must be in my head...
HE just suggested we all meet....
I asked "including your wife" and he said "no"
He is still chatting with Her from his point of view.
BS: Ha
Of course not
Because I know nothing
ME: I just said " Well he says that if she doesn't want to see our chat logs all over the community facebook sites (Q and A, Buy and Sell) and you don't want him to go to your work and disclose everything to your boss that shows that
you are using your work for hookups, then you need to bring your wife into this to prove that you want to move forward and heal both our marriages."
BS: He will talk all night. Trust me.
ME: He says this is turning into a threat
BS: I suggest let him try and sleep on it
And get some sleep
Yourself
If possible
ME: OK... good night! Try and get some sleep. I know I won't
BS: Me either. Sigh. We will walk this out and see
[This message edited by mrcpu at 12:45 PM, July 28th (Monday)]