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OrdinaryDude ( member #55676) posted at 3:15 AM on Friday, May 5th, 2017

Thats a good question.

I'm considering having my adult kids DNA tested this year, just to be sure.

Not that they would mean anything less to me, but to check on my wife's behavior at the time...I've learned to trust nothing from her and question everything at this point.

We are doing well in R, but I need some reassurances before I will begin to trust again...a polygraph and a postnup are in order too.

I was young and dumb and stayed with a cheater.

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 YHGTBKM (original poster member #58437) posted at 3:25 AM on Friday, May 5th, 2017

@vatoloco,

I understand. Truthfully, I have no idea if she strayed before this. I important thing is I know now and will not stand for it. I have done nothing to deserve this.

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vatoloco ( member #56680) posted at 3:46 AM on Friday, May 5th, 2017

Friend YHGTBKM

I really admire your firmness of character, I am convinced that you are doing very well, doing the right thing. I also understand the pain of the moment, the disappointment that is felt and the humiliation, knowing that your wife, whom you had on a pedestal, has been reduced to mingle with a OM so low that not a minute has thought of the pain it caused ...

She chose and did not give you the right to choose this shit.

Now it's your turn and you're doing great. I sense your wife is a serial cheater.

Regards, much strength that this bad moment will happen, your life goes on and you have the best of it: your daughter.

Hugs

INFIDELITY

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PlanC ( member #47500) posted at 5:29 AM on Friday, May 5th, 2017

I would have her served right before the trip. You will either ruin the trip or she will burn days off her response clock in the divorce proceeding. Plus you can take all remedial measures while she is gone.

BS 50; xWW. 4 children.
DD 1: April 2013, confessed ONS June 2012
DD 2: March 2014, confessed affair August 2012 through March 2013
DD 3: October 2015, involuntarily confessed 5 additional ONS starting August 2014 through November 2014 (manic)

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Smillie ( member #51537) posted at 5:53 AM on Friday, May 5th, 2017

While she is away you should inform her close friends and family what she is doing. Not in a spiteful way but just as a matter of fact.

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Dyokemm ( member #40254) posted at 7:14 AM on Friday, May 5th, 2017

I would arrange everything for you and your DD to leave to Hawaii just a few hours after she is scheduled to leave, including canceling all cards and transferring funds from accounts at close of business the night before.....

Then immediately after she leaves the house.....BLOW up the A.....exposure to ALL friends and family......and text her that the D papers are waiting on the kitchen table as you walk out the door to leave on your trip with your DD.

Her 'special' trip will be blown apart.....no funds and her phone blowing up with friends/family calling and texting.

She will for sure try to rush home.....but you will be gone with your DD and she will find nothing but the papers.

After your flight lands, text her that you expect her to be gone when you get back from your trip.....then go completely dark on her until you return.

Well.....that's what I would do.

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ramius ( member #44750) posted at 9:29 AM on Friday, May 5th, 2017

1000 euros is a small price to pay to get her out of the country for a few days. It gives you time to change the locks, security codes, and move your funds. Also if have access to her email you can change her password and lock her out of that for awhile.

I also like your idea of letting her know after she makes her domestic connection.

Some ideas.....

You can call/text her first and confirm that she is on the plane and it has left the gate. Then give her the good news.

Something simple like: "Enjoy your trip with your boyfriend. I know everything. Any contact from this point on will be limited to specifics about our daughter. All other contact is to be done thru my lawyer."

Expose her to everyone (family and close friends) immediately after sending the text. Keep it short but make sure to say you have absolute proof and that this is not a "he said she said" situation.

Maybe don't cancel her phone. That way she can go nuts taking calls from her family and trying to contact you with the inevitable crying and I'm sorry routine all busted WW's do. Or I guess she could just call collect from Spain, but you would have to pay for it.

Then just sit back and imagine what she will be dealing with on her romantic trip. Sex with the boyfriend? I doubt it. Once the reality hits, her crotch is going to dry up like the sahara.

As far as the divorce papers go. Let those be waiting for her at the airport when she arrives home. The process server can meet her in baggage claim. A well deserved welcome home.

Few BS take such decisive action like you are. But those that do seem to fair better than those who do not.

[This message edited by ramius at 3:33 AM, May 5th (Friday)]

How many scars have you rationalized because you loved the person who was holding the knife?

Their actions reveal their intentions. Their words conceal them.

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Mrhealed ( member #46868) posted at 10:42 AM on Friday, May 5th, 2017

YHGTBKM,

I think your strategy is the right one. You will have more than enough times to

I just have a couple of questions,

When are you going to confronted her/ let her know that you are aware of the affair and D is to happen? When she returns? Trip last days? As you pointed out she may try to return before, even without money she can reach friends.

Does OM have a wife or girls friend? If yes you should also let her know.

Be careful as probably your WW has friends, of you as well, that were aware / support / enable the Affair (e.g. the ones in the Flamenco class). Last thing you need is your WW finding that you know about the A before time.

If you change the locks (consult your lawyer about it) where is she going to stay the day she returns? I am not saying that you should let her stay at your house, just that maybe is a good idea to make some arrangements to find accommodation for her (her parent, sister, brother , friends, etc). He is a cheater but also your daughter’s mother, you need to consider this to not hurt your daughter more than the D is going to.

Good luck

"Infidelity is not a victimless offense. If she cheats on me, then I am a victim. If she intentionally cheats on me then I am an intended victim." by DoneGone

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nme1 ( member #44360) posted at 2:39 PM on Friday, May 5th, 2017

Has your attorney reviewed your evidence of the A? I wouldn't want you to think that you're safely covered by a prenup, only to find out that you need more proof.

I wish you strength over the next week before she leaves.

Me: BS
Him: WS
M 16 yrs 2 x DS
D-Day 6th March 2014

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twisted ( member #8873) posted at 3:33 PM on Friday, May 5th, 2017

YHGTBKM, you initial post has so much familiarity to it. I applaud your patience and ability to maintain your composure as you collect the evidence and documentation you will need.

You allowing her to go the trip is evil genius. You are my hero. ( Is that a bad thing?)

It reminds me of the comedian Sam Kinison when his estranged girlfriend found out about him fooling around, so she quietly packed a loaded .38 in his carry on luggage.

When is the trip, I want to hear the end of this one!

"Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?

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vatoloco ( member #56680) posted at 4:59 AM on Saturday, May 6th, 2017

Friend YHGTBKM

You can update as this situation with your wife. I travel to Spain in the end?

Hugs

INFIDELITY

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OrdinaryDude ( member #55676) posted at 2:25 AM on Monday, May 8th, 2017

YHGTBKM...how goes it?

I was young and dumb and stayed with a cheater.

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twisted ( member #8873) posted at 2:46 PM on Monday, May 8th, 2017

YHGTBKM, also wanting an update.

"Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?

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desertwells ( member #57204) posted at 5:18 PM on Monday, May 8th, 2017

I would double check about the locks as well. Is the house in her name? My attorney told me that I couldn't change the locks but that I could change the alarm code... that stopped him from coming in.

Personally, I wouldn't let all her friends know. Just act like you don't care... that will get to her more in the long run.

Even when you're on your trip with your daughter, don't blow up on FB with pics everywhere. One nice pic of the two of you and an update like 'Best vacation with my best girl' is all you need!

(Oh, and to this day, my EX doesn't know how much I know and when/how I figured things out and it drives him CRAZY!) I've never asked him (nor would I ever) because it just doesn't matter and it would just stroke his ego.

Married 15 years
Me/BS 43,
DD 9
D-Day-Sept 2015
D- 2016

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'Sometimes when things are falling apart, they may actually be falling into place.'

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5246 ( new member #58313) posted at 8:45 PM on Monday, May 8th, 2017

Have her served right as she she checks into airport.

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Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 9:33 PM on Monday, May 8th, 2017

A fidelity clause in the pre-nup?

Do you have legal quality proof of the affair?

Keep in mind that your recordings on the VAR might be illegal or inadmissible at court. Possibly the same regarding the gps.

You clearly have funds and with the info you already have then hire a PI to nail down legal-quality proof just in case her attorney contests the validity of the fidelity clause.

"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus

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kgcolonel ( member #57318) posted at 10:20 PM on Monday, May 8th, 2017

I may have missed it but when is the trip scheduled to take place? I think your plan to send the notification is perfect....should be interesting exchange once she lands at her destination with her BT and realizes the light at the end of the tunnel is not daylight....sorry you are going through this....

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swmnbc ( member #49344) posted at 3:21 PM on Tuesday, May 9th, 2017

I believe she leaves Thursday (in two days) but won't arrive until Friday.

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Marriagesucks ( member #46828) posted at 3:54 PM on Tuesday, May 9th, 2017

You're my new Hero. I haven't posted on this thread because it seems like you totally got your head together (in the order of SpaceGhost's thread).

In reference to comic Sammy would it be too vindictive if I said I wouldn't mind hearing an update of your WW dumpster diving in Spain for chicken parts with her Boy Toy?. If it's too soon for this kind of humor.... my apology's.

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

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SAM25nov2016 ( member #56988) posted at 5:16 PM on Tuesday, May 9th, 2017

Let me just say ...I hate this woman for doing this to you. I wish cheaters wore a sign around their necks and only dated one another. Why don't they leave the rest of us alone!

Love your approach to all of this - I truly admire you. You and your daughter will be ok - of that I am sure!

Wish I could be at the airport when she gets your text :)

Take care of yourself - you deserve it!

BS - 40s
WH - 40s (coworker - 6mth PA/EA Jun'16-Nov'16)
No kids / Married 13 years (separated -status unknown
Dday- Nov 25, 2016

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