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ISurvived7734 ( member #60205) posted at 11:57 PM on Thursday, October 5th, 2017

2) find someone who might make me feel less alone. I recognize the latter impulse is probably something that triggers affair behavior in some people if they are too afraid to divorce but too lonely or sad to make a healthy decision . I don't intend on committing that mistake.

It sounds as though you might be making this mistake right now.

I find it very hard to make myself vulnerable to my WW even years later. I am not deeply connected to her anymore. If she left tomorrow, it would be a minor inconvenience. I would not be emotionally shattered nor would I grieve her absence.

Bingo! I feel exactly the same way.

without infidelity an empty nest isn't necessarily burdened with a white elephant. The couple can look back on the life together and bask in the glory of having raised the kids and survived the trials and tribulations of married life. Betrayal is not a trial we sign up for.

I can only imagine where we would be had an unforeseen circumstance not came along and filled our nest again. So, while I can't know, I believe we would be divorced.

[This message edited by ISurvived7734 at 5:59 PM, October 5th (Thursday)]



"I always look both ways when crossing a one-way street. That's how much faith I have in humanity..."

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 Henry57 (original poster new member #35406) posted at 9:25 PM on Friday, October 6th, 2017

Thanks for all the responses. I read a lot of things that I think I needed to hear. It helps to know that other people walked this path too.

First, some people suggested that we find different jobs so we can spend some more time together. We both generally enjoy our jobs and practically speaking we are "indentured" to our employer for a few more years, and a lot of our work happens out of state or overseas. Travel will probably decrease a little by 2020 or so. I think we'd like to do this but it isn't feasible.

Second, many of you suggested that I/we need to take positive action and work on our marriage together and/or that I need to talk to her. I think you folks are right on both points. I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet.

But It's hard not to focus on my kids and hide from my marriage at home. And work provides a convenient excuse too. My kids light up my day. I'm not a perfect dad, but my best "me" typically comes out when I'm around them. They're the only people I've ever loved who haven't hurt me.

Pyschmom's point that she didn't see "the conscious choice to work together" really nailed it. I'm hiding. I've nibbled around the edges of having a serious talk with her, but I'm scared about what's going to come out of my mouth because I'm not sure what I feel.

Stayedforthekids question about whether I felt alone because of work or alone because of the affair articulated my dilemma about why I haven't made, on my end, that conscious choice to work with her. The answer to the question is I'm not sure, I think maybe both.

Waitedwaytoolong- I forgave my WW, but There is always the voice inside my head reminding me that I "lost". I try to tune it out and it usually works, but not always. Never heard it described that way, but that's the way it feels sometimes. I've had quite a few experiences where I do all the things you're supposed to do and I still lose. I made peace with the concept that life isn't fair a long time ago, but it's really hard to go home and then suddenly have something trigger you and be reminded that you lost, for a little while, with the only woman you've ever loved.

On most days, the feeling-it's like very mild tinnitus-almost invisible background noise. On a good day, it's nonexistent. On the few bad days I have, it's a "cement truck driving through a nitroglycerin factory."

I feel alone partially because of work because neither of us have the energy for anything after what amounts to a ten hour work day and spending time with the kids. Physical intimacy, aside from goodbye/hello kisses, is more than either of us typically have energy for. And while I don't expect passion and romance every time, its steadily getting less frequent and more perfunctory and mechanical. And coupled with being a BH, this negatively impacts my self-esteem and makes me less willing to be intimate and connect and it feels like a bad/no sex death spiral. Especially if I'm feeling low enough to turn her down when she tries to initiate, which I'm certain creates the same problems I have for her.

It's partially work, but as I started getting into, it's partially the A. I put myself out there when I proposed. And when the going got tough, she cheated. When I found out she cheated, I threw up. But we went to sleep that night in the same bed. I held her as she cried herself to sleep. I had no idea I was capable of responding like I did. I still loved her in that moment and wanted to be there for her. I put myself out there that night in a very big way. And now the going is getting tough again. And I'm worried about what happens next if I was wrong to do it.

What I want is for her to start to fix it. I'll do a lot of heavy lifting, I'm not done with this marriage. But what I really want is to not have to take the first step this time to fight for us. I know she knows stuff isn't great, because we did talk twice about trying to spend more time on us. But I started those talks. I really want her to take the initial positive action so I will feel safe again at jumping back all in.

BH
M: 11 yrs
DD1: 6 yrs old
DD2: 3 yrs old
D day: 4/14/12

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waitedwaytoolong ( member #51519) posted at 12:13 AM on Saturday, October 7th, 2017

In my experience, and it seems almost 100% in the cases where the WS gets caught but doesn't want to lose the marriage. The words or close to the words come out that " I am sorry, please forgive me, I will spend the rest of my life making this up to you."

To me that is a vow that is as sacred as a wedding vow. My guess is you heard the same thing. if she forgot this, its probably time to remind her. Not that you don't have work to do, but she made a promise. Make her keep it. She should be moving heaven and earth. You don't have to accept anything less.

I am the cliched husband whose wife had an affair with the electrician

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