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 equallycorrect (original poster new member #62144) posted at 12:19 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

My wife and I had what I thought to be a pretty solid marriage. We were (are?) excellent communicators. When we were dating and married, we talked about how important it was to stay together and that our relationship was important to both of us. We also talked about the opposite sex quite a bit. I had a previous history of cheating and we wanted to be open about this and talk about attractions as they happened. We were both on-guard about proper boundaries and I felt comfortable talking to my wife when I felt like a boundary was being crossed (could be just a feeling or maybe I felt like I was getting too close to someone). This was just part of what was normal in our relationship. I felt like things between us were so solid because we were so aware of proper boundaries between men and women.

I’m going through my own personal crisis right now. My wife, of 5 years was/is having an EA/PA. The story goes like this: My wife moved out of state for a 1 year job, brought along our small children (1 and 3) and made a new life for herself while I stayed behind in Connecticut. We were fine, I mean, we were not perfect but things between us were decent. This was probably the toughest year of our relationship, but we maintained that we wanted to be together and that we would not let anything come between us.

There is another man that has been part of her life while she was away. He was part of the church she was attending and going through a divorce. I asked what is the situation with that relationship if she was maintaining proper boundaries etc. She said everything was fine and this was just a friendship.

On May 30th, 2017 she wrote me an email saying that how touched she was that I had done something for her and how much she loved me. A week later, she called me on the phone to tell me she just wasn’t sure about ‘us’, that maybe we had too many differences. Over the summer, she grew more distant. When we met up over the summer, she was clearly shaken, not sleeping well, crying easily etc. Other people noticed that her behaviour was out of character.

More distance on the phone: she waits for me to say “I love you” as if testing me. She talks about a spiritual awakening she is having. She is talking about making some big changes in her life. She is thinking about quitting careers (she had been training and working towards a professorship and finally got it) and going into something more religious based.

Now she comes back to Connecticut at the end of August with the kids. We are just not connecting quite right. I felt tension. We go out and talk a few times and she talks about a spiritual awakening and a rediscovery of music as a primarily passion. I’m nervous as I’m seeing signs of something. I put together a timeline of when things started to change. I zeroed in on two men.

Now I start to snoop. I unpacked her Ipad which was connected to her email account and took a look through her email real quick. I can’t stand snooping and I just searched for a couple keywords and then put the Ipad down. I felt the tension and pain inside of me and could not go into depth. A week or so later, I got up the courage and searched through the Ipad again. This time, I zeroed in on the man that she was friends with from her church. I found some communications that were very disturbing. She was writing poems for him, telling him intimate details and discussed a conversation they had where she discussed everything she didn’t like about our marriage. Something was up. But, I couldn’t believe that she slept with him, she was just so solid, reliable and committed to the marriage. I took pictures of the emails and sent them to a friend. We talked about the emails went back and forth on this. This whole thing, it just wasn’t her. She was so committed to me.

It was obvious from her messages with this man that she was having an EA. I wasn’t sure about physical at this point. I confronted her and she admitted it, the EA and the PA. I was in shock. I’m sure everyone says this, but she just wasn’t the type of person to do this. She had always been so committed to me, kind, dependable and honest.

Worse, was that she wasn’t sure she wanted to be in the marriage anymore. I said I just wanted to take some time and talk it over with her to figure this out. I told her that I was in the marriage 100% and didn’t want to lose her. I felt like she would eventually ‘snap out of it’. We agree to go to marriage counseling and try to work on things.

The next month or so is pretty rough. Sometimes she doesn't want to touch me. She seems put-off to talk to me. We have sex and that is still fine. But outside of that, there is no more touching, holding hands. Hugs are shunned. We talk and talk about the relationship and such. I said I wanted her to remove all contact with the OM and she agrees. She writes him an email and says she can’t talk to him.

In counseling, she wants me to change some things, so I work to change things. These changes are good and I make them. I’m better with the kids, I give her the emotional support she said she was missing. After that, our relationship is under attack, she says that maybe we just didn't have ‘joy’ in our relationship.

Maybe we were making progress. Then after a couple of months, I get into her phone and find a couple weeks of communication between her and the OM (mid October 2017). They were chatting through Viber and there is lots of talk about soulmates and love etc. I confront her and we have an argument. She says that she is now breaking things off with him (again). One thing about these viber chats, they give some indication of a future together. They are both longing to be together.

Things take a step backwards. I ask and she tells me that she refuses to give up hope of them being together someday. This man is a possibility. More time goes by and things are about the same.

All this time I’ve been trying really hard. I am the ‘super husband’. I buy flowers. The self help books on dealing with affairs (“not just friends” and “after the affair”) are a help I suppose. She reads some of the books and I think that helps, I guess.

More time goes by and it seems like we are just moving sideways. She talks about a seperation. When we talk about a divorce, I can tell she has already given it quite a bit of thought. I’m still in shock and having difficulty adjusting to the new reality. She is different, she is set on going to church and talks about her spiritual awakening. She mentions that she is considering that a spiritual connection is important in a relationship. This was never something we talked about and I’m not very spiritual.

Christmas is coming up and I need to travel to pickup my daughter from a previous marriage. We talk about plans for the trip and she indicates that she can make the trip and wants to stop by the city where the OM lives for a visit because she wants to ‘reconnect to the place as it was a transformation to her life’. I tell her ‘no way’. I thought maybe she was not thinking carefully about it when she asked me. I make the travel plans and then a couple of weeks later, when I tell her about my travel plans she mentions “remember I was thinking of taking your daughter back so that I could stop off and see the place where I used to live”. I basically tell her that she is welcome to, but then it would mean divorce as I’m not going to sit by and watch this happen. She mentions that visiting the OM is just part of her visit and that sex was not going to happen. I stand my ground. This was Dec 2017.

(My wife is also now very much into music. She sees this as something ‘core to her being’. I should mention that the OM was a musician who ‘understood her spiritually’ - how cliche!).

I’m panicky. I want her more than anything. I love her and my life without her would be very difficult for a number of reasons (I have a daughter from a previous marriage and my drive to work would make kid pickups difficult).

The counseling, individual therapy and much of what is on the internet on how to ‘handle affairs’ just doesn’t seem to quite get at the problem. Most of what is out there is on forgiveness and ‘working through the difficult feelings’. I can get past the affair, but I need my wife to get ‘back into the marriage’. In my case (and it seems like many folks out here), the ‘affair withdraw’ and affair in general are very present. My wife’s ambivalent state is not something that is covered on the resources I have. While my wife is (I think) not in contact with the OM, I still think the affair is very present.

Anyhow, I found a couple of websites that deal with this (including this one). When the ‘affair is still going on’ and how to deal with it’. I’m starting to change strategies. I told her recently that I was “not in the marriage 100% and that I also have a decision to make regarding the relationship”. I’m backing off the attention I was giving her. I’m working out at the gym. I’m trying to hang out more with friends. I’m back into my hobbies.

My wife:

Has regret for what she has done. She is sorry for hurting me and understands that she wronged me. At times it seems like she might come back into the marriage, she will say something that indicates she wants to come back, but more often when we talk about serious topics, she says she is not sure and talks about separating from me. She says she feels like she needs to be alone. She is having difficulty connecting with me.

My unanswered questions:

I’m sure everyone in my position has this same question, but here it goes anyway

Is it worth staying in the relationship?

What factors are important in determining if I should stay or go?

How long should I accept his in-between ambivalent state?

Can I do better? As a 45 year old man who would be divorced twice, can I expect to find someone just as good or better than my wife? It seems like the gender ratios are in my favor and there are a decent number of good single women in my age range. (I know this is a silly question, but I can’t help but put a lot of energy in this space).

Thanks for reading,

Equallycorrect

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shellbean ( member #56536) posted at 12:48 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

I'm sorry you find yourself here, but you are in the best place for advice and support.

The goal of this site is to get out of infidelity. Clearly, from your post, you and your wife are still in it. You cannot R (reconcile) if your WW (wayward wife) is still actively cheating.

You were initially doing the "pick me" dance - I'm glad you stopped because that never works! Have you checked to see if the OM is really getting a D? That may be untrue. Check if he is still married and then contact the OBS (other betrayed spouse). This will stop the affair cold. Whatever you do, DO NOT tell your wife that you are contacting OBS. Your WW will tell OM and he will tell his wife you are jealous and crazy. Try to contact via phone so that OM cannot intercept written communications.

Check out the Healing Library (upper left corner of this site). There is a ton of stuff there that will be of help to you.

Others will be along soon; the weekends can be pretty slow here. Keep reading and keep posting.

I wish you peace and strength!

Together 29 years, M 20 years
Dday1 11/3/16 Dday2 11/1/17
PA '96-'98, PA Aug.'15-Nov.'16 Same AP
EA '09-'11
We are reconciled and doing well

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GoldenR ( member #54778) posted at 12:56 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

You played the "pick me" game for months. IT WON'T WORK.

It seems like you started the 180 (not sure if it was the compete 180) which is a good thing.

Your next step....EXPOSE. EXPOSE, EXPOSE. Expose to her family, expose the both of them to the church. If he's a musician at the church, then that's even better, bc his image there will be important to him.

Also, make sure that he really is not with his wife. It is sooooo very common for the cheater to describe their affair partner as separated or going thru a divorce to their betrayed spouse to make themselves look better. It's almost never true.

Also, see a lawyer IMMEDIATELY. And start separating finances. Do not give her access to any of your "extra" money that doesn't go towards paying the bills or taking care of the kids.

You'll get more advice here, so please keep checking back in.

[This message edited by GoldenR at 6:56 AM, January 7th (Sunday)]

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ming56 ( member #19505) posted at 1:18 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

When a person is enthralled with their infidelity it is a very dicey proposition how to deal with them. I have often thought and wished I had been more definitive with my wife in pulling her out of her illusions, however now that she is healthy again she tells me there was nothing I could have done and she would have rebelled against me even more. The bottom line though is you have to be true to yourself in these difficult times. There is no magic panacea to this perplexing problem. Don't straddle the line. She needs to know that this is not a string she can pull whenever she wants attention, and she cannot have it both ways. An old saying is you are only as sick as your secrets. In this case her secret was outed, but you have given her wiggle room. She is going to have to make a decision, but you are also. Are you willing to put up with a third person in your marriage? Perhaps it is time to use the D word if she cant get her act together. How long do you want to live in limbo like this? Just keep in mind, no matter how this works out you will be okay. You sound like you want to fight for your marriage, and that is admirable, but this fight is not clear cut. You say you have made changes after counseling, and that is great, perhaps even essential, but she is still wavering. Time to push her hand and present ultimatums? Couples can survive infidelity, but both parties have to be committed and she is clearly still sitting on the fence. For your own mental health, sanity, and well being- it is time to push her to either come out of her fantasy or commit to this new life she has become attached to.

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PricklePatch ( member #34041) posted at 1:31 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

I am of the mind that shining the light on the affair stops it. How would there Church in other state feel about it?

Really of divorce check with an attorney about your children being kept in state. My state would allow me to take my child anywhere but out of the country without spousal agreement. In my state I could prevent him or I from leaving the state.

Right now your wife is an alien creature. She is rewriting your martial history while she is cake eating. The problem here is it should be her jumping through hoops to fix things. If she was unhappy she could have ended the marriage. She didn’t she cheated. She is regretting the affair but not remorseful. Right now other then static from a less then desirable spouse what are the consequences? She is still active in the affair. Get a lawyer consult and start protecting yourself from your children moving to another state.

I am really sorry your here. I am one of those who is pro reconciliation. However, I do know you can’t reconcile with a spouse with out remorse.

Read everything from the healing library link on the left. Get STD tested. Mainly, get the lawyer consult and get exclusive use of the home and primary custody of the kids. Also orders if possible for her not to take them out of state.

My experience was I had to be prepared to lose the marriage to keep it. It meant for me hard ball. Hardball by outing his EA and his sex worker stuff. It meant me protecting my child.

If he is a musician in the church would he be ousted for adultery?

BS Fwh

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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 1:53 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

Trying to nice them back or doing the pick me dance will just push her farther away.

The affair is ongoing.

You're only choice is to try and end it.

Have you done any exposure. Find out if he's married. Don't go by what your wife's telling you. Cheaters are notorious liars. You can't believe anything your wife tells you.

They met at church definitely exposed there.

You think this isn't like something your wife would do? Wrong!!!

It is a part of her or she wouldn't be doing this. Affairs are conscious decisions. This just didn't happen.

Better wake up

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ICaughtThem ( member #45041) posted at 2:13 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

If she is still active in the A, beware of being "separated". That is cheater speak for "I want to test drive the OM some more to see if it will work out." Affairs are fantasyland, since there aren't bills, shitty diapers, taxes, etc. to worry about. It's all rainbows, professions of "love", and sex.

As others have said, the quickest way to stop the A is to expose it to the OBS, without telling your WW that you will do so. Then, the OM will most likely throw your WW under the bus to save his own M. And, as you have seen, playing the pick me dance doesn't work.

Look at the healing library (in the box upper left hand side of this page). Start to implement the 180, which is designed to help you detach from all this drama so you can start focusing on yourself.

Oh, and put that notion of being excellent communicators out your mind. Did your WW ask you if she could have a boyfriend that she could have sex with? Didn't think so. Cheaters lie. It's what they do best. All of this new found "spiritual awakening" is pure, 100% bullshit. Cheaters lie, blame shift, gaslight, re-write the history of the marriage, and lie some more. If she truly wants to change her field of study, she can find somewhere local to attend, not several states away. Did she know either of these two men BEFORE she took that job in Connecticut?

Snooping? Don't feel bad about that. What about your WW's secrecy? It's way beyond privacy, which is when you close the door to the bathroom when you take a dump. If your WW is communicating with the OM something that she wouldn't let you see, that's secrecy. All affairs are based on it.

What is your plan going forward? Have you seen a lawyer to find out what your rights are? Start separating your finances.

Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn’t.

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DarkHoleHeart ( member #58272) posted at 2:51 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

You sound like a very level-headed man from your post. So I hope that you will be able to get most out of this site - I noticed that it usually works better for people who somehow manage to start using their rational side after devastation of DDay, probably because most of advice given here seems counterintuitive to a mind that is overwhelmed with emotions.

Most of what is out there is on forgiveness and ‘working through the difficult feelings’. I can get past the affair, but I need my wife to get ‘back into the marriage’.

SI, on the other hand, has a shitload of such stuff in the form of user experience. This section of the forum is, however, geared more towards getting you out of infidelity, not concentrating on specific outcome - reconciliation (R) or divorce (D).

You already have seen first-hand that gentle approach doesn't work. It is time to knock her off the fence. Read about 180 in the healing library and implement it (you already started some of it). Remember, this is not a tool to "get her back into the marriage" (even if other sites recommend it as such), but a tool for you to detach from her to reach a place, where you can rationally assess your situation and what you want for yourself and from relationship. It might have side effect of knocking her off the fence (to either side).

Do not talk about divorce. Go and see a lawyer. Arm yourself with knowledge where you would stand in divorce. Even prepare D papers and hand it to her (it is the most effective method of knocking off the fence) - but be prepared to go through if she just says "OK" - she's gone anyway. You tell her that you are 100% NOT in marriage the way it is now.

It is funny how OM's dick put all that spirituality into her.

Saying this not to hurt you. Saying this to make you angry at her, to see what BS all this talk is. Angry is good if you know how to use it.

Have to go now. Be strong.

@DDay#1:
Me: BS, 40; Her: WW, 32
M: 10y, in relationship 15y, 3DD (8,8,6)
Dday#1: Oct, 2016, Dday#2: Jun, 2017
AP#1: COW PA, AP#2: EA/PA 3 months, AP#3: COW PA
Currently (2024): Plain of the Lethal Flatness

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fused ( member #61047) posted at 3:51 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

What kind of "church" is this? If it's Christian, then whatever they teach their flock about the 10 Commandments, it isn't sticking too well with her.

Get out of this toxic relationship ASAP. Save yourself the heartbreak

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Sharkman ( member #56818) posted at 4:56 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

You need a lawyer ASAP and need TO FILE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!!

The reason for this is that you need to tether the kids to CT. Right now she could leave with them overnight.

YOU NEED TO TALK TO A LAWYER IMMEDIATELY.

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HouseOfPlane ( member #45739) posted at 5:01 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

EC, every nice thing you said about your WW (dedicated, excellent communicator, committed to me, kind, dependable, honest) is wrong.

Not just a little wrong, either. 100% wrong, and then doubled-down on with the opposite. She is duplicitous, dishonest, undependable, etc.

The title of your thread is a complete non sequitur. It is impossible for a dedicated wife to find love with another man.

Sorry you are here, friend. The good news is this limbo status, this living in the unknown, not controlling the destiny of your marriage, can end the second you choose it to end. You may not save the marriage (sounds like that is up to her) but you can get out of victim status sooner than later and take control. Make her decide now by setting the expectation now for what you can accept, and stick to it. No soft, squishy boundaries. Don't use her cheating to forgive yourself for yours. Right is still right.

Sending strength!

[This message edited by HouseOfPlane at 11:02 AM, January 7th (Sunday)]

DDay 1986: R'd, it was hard, hard work.

“Tell me, what is it you plan to do
with your one wild and precious life?”
― Mary Oliver

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Marriagesucks ( member #46828) posted at 5:02 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

Everyone is spot on. You are doing the pick me dance big time...it NEVER ever works and comes off as making you look VERY weak. The affair never stopped... it has merely gone underground. REGRET is never a good thing... What you are looking for is TRUE remorse which you don't have yet... not by a longshot.

He was part of the church she was attending and going through a divorce.

More than likely OM is married. While your WW is pining away for the OM you need to make it your job to find out who the OM wife is and contact her and let her know what the two lovebirds have been up to. While your at it contact the 'church' and let them know what is going on. Nothing kills an affair like exposure to the light of day.

Do not let your wife know what you are doing, as she will only warn the OM.

[This message edited by Marriagesucks at 11:04 AM, January 7th (Sunday)]

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

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Marriagesucks ( member #46828) posted at 5:19 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

She talks about a spiritual awakening she is having. She is talking about making some big changes in her life. She is thinking about quitting careers (she had been training and working towards a professorship and finally got it) and going into something more religious based.

For the most part I don't believe that cheaters are in 'the fog'. They made a concious decision to cheat... however I had to do a double take on your above statement. It is totally conflicting. Makes NO sense whatsoever. There is something else going on here.

Contact a lawyer to find out what you can do to prevent your WW from taking your kids out of state again... or you may find them calling OM 'Daddy'. Your WW is batsh*t crazy right now. Remains to be seen whether its 'the fog' or not.

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

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william ( member #41986) posted at 8:12 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

Go to church with her. Have a sit down with pastor/priest. Ask how increased spirituality jives with the 6th and 9th commandment. Watch the fun.

me - bh
her - lara01

from 09/11 - 05/13
2 ONS, 10 sexting partners, 1 LT EA/PA

??/06/13 DD/1 - admits to LT EA, begin false R.
01/13/14 DD/2 - LTA was PA.
01/18/14 DD/3 - sexting 5 guys.
01/19/14 DD/4 - 2 ONS with different guys

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HartShotAt80 ( member #61909) posted at 10:53 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018

Boy do I know your pain. All you can really try and do is tell her "ok. If this isn't worth sharing your life with me then go already and let me begin healing"

Second, ask her how her spiritual awaking is going because she's committing adultery IN THE CHURCH

Learn to distancing myself from my Wife is helping me. Give it a try

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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 12:12 AM on Monday, January 8th, 2018

Opinions follow:

Is it worth staying in the relationship?

Maybe - but it's your decision. What do you think?

D could be your best choice, you know. I'm skeptical of this sort of spiritual awakening ... it sounds a lot like teenage hormones.

What factors are important in determining if I should stay or go?

A good candidate for R ends the A, tells you about the A, answers every question you have honestly, opens all communications media to you, informs you of any request for contact from xom, keeps you informed of where activities and companions at essentially all times, and enters IC with a goal of changing from cheater to good partner.

How long should I accept his in-between ambivalent state?

You decide for yourself. What are the costs and benefits to you of waiting?

Can I do better? As a 45 year old man who would be divorced twice, can I expect to find someone just as good or better than my wife? It seems like the gender ratios are in my favor and there are a decent number of good single women in my age range. (I know this is a silly question, but I can’t help but put a lot of energy in this space).

The best numbers I've come across are that about 20% of all surveyed US women under 60 admit to cheating at least once (General Social Survey). That means 1 in 5.

My W was, in fact, a great candidate for R, so my bet was that she'd be a lot less likely than 20% to cheat in the future, given how she handled herself after d-day - but she stopped lying on d-day, went NC immediately, started therapy, etc.

I think any truly remorseful WS who does the necessary work will be a better bet for the future than any random person you meet, but that opinion is not held by all.

Gender ratios aren't great for you now, but wait a few years.

D'ed twice at 45 - what more do you need to learn about yourself before starting a new long term relationship? What changes in yourself do you want/need to make, and are you willing to make them?

fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex apDDay - 12/22/2010Recover'd and R'edYou don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.

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Destroyed9592 ( new member #62164) posted at 1:25 AM on Monday, January 8th, 2018

Unfortunately I'm New to this site today just finding out my wife also had an affair. What is driving me crazy is the contradicting lies she tells. I want to reconcile our marriage somehow for us and our children. I have told her I need to trust her. The man who had the affair actualky had the nerve to text me asking for forgiveness as part of his religious reconciling with his church and wife revealing explicit facts.

My wife is still lying based on facts he gave me. The core base of any relationship is trust which my wife is not expressing.

You seem yo be in a similar state. If you can't trust her then it is almost impossible to move on.

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goalong ( member #57352) posted at 1:38 AM on Monday, January 8th, 2018

please consider both of your situation as a serious problem like an illness and act without emotions. You were emotionally affected the first time you came to know. Do not let this repeat. You are the one who is affected. Your wives may not be feeling much about your welfare at the moment. Looks like from their reactions both wives are not regretting and showing remorse for what they did. As it says over here acting like you are going to end it may be the cause to get them out of their fog

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manfromlamancha ( member #47894) posted at 1:38 AM on Monday, January 8th, 2018

Sorry to have you here. The simple truth is

- Your "wife" went away for a one year job (already a bad idea)

- You were married for less than 5 years.

- She finds a religious musician (something that she is) and falls in love with him

- She fvcks him

- She doesnt tell you about it

- You find out about it and she denies and then you dig further and she finally caves in and admits it

- She very clearly does not want to give it up

- She thinks that you should be OK with it for the time being while she gets to fvck both of you if she so chooses

... and you want to stay with her ?!?!?!?!? Why in God's name ???

[This message edited by manfromlamancha at 7:38 PM, January 7th (Sunday)]

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CincyKid ( member #57948) posted at 8:03 AM on Monday, January 8th, 2018

Since when do “spiritual awakenings” include adultery? I’m no biblical scholar but I don’t think adultery is supposed to be part of a “spiritual awakening”.

Betrayed, life over...
Life goes on...
Met sunshine girl, fell in love...
Reconnected with wonderful DD...
Married sunshine girl, happy as can be!!!

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