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The damage of Trickle Truth

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 FearfulAvoidance (original poster member #61384) posted at 5:27 PM on Thursday, September 19th, 2019

How did those unicorn betrayers tell the whole truth in the beginning? How did they push past their fear of losing everything, of losing that fake control over the outcome, of not wanting to add more mind movies?

I wish those unicorn betrayers would come out of the woodwork to share their secrets. But they are likely not here ruminating on TT, and are instead in their life being better spouses and/or individuals.

I wish I could say that if a WS can have a resource at the start to guide them that it would be enough. That wasn't the case with me. My BS was sharing healing from infidelity podcasts with me after Dday1. But I was underground and not hearing any of it. And when I came up for air after my A I was too terrified at what I had done and utterly convinced I would lose everything and completely break my BS if she knew the extent of the person I had become. If I couldn't face myself, how in the hell was she supposed to?

I think that only works if you are preparing to disclose after you have had time to prepare and understand the damage TT will do. We don't see the damage at the start even if we have read a million times TT will kill the M. Why is that?

Me: WW, 30s, BP2
Her: BW, 30s (Aftershockgoldfish)
Committed since 2006, married in 2013

6 month OEA (sexting & phone sex)
DDay1 went underground: Nov 18, 2016
DDay2 ended A: Mar 26, 2017
Was offered R: Oct 2017
Dday3 no more lies: Sept 8, 2019

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Zugzwang ( member #39069) posted at 6:40 PM on Thursday, September 19th, 2019

Hmmm, maybe that is why I continue to post. I did it all wrong. I had a major TT at 18months out. I almost really lost it all. Not that, that matters. What mattered is what I did to her for 18months after Dday. Not that I almost lost it. What mattered is that I could have chosen to become vulnerable and I might of become happier and whole earlier.

I was here before and knew TT could kill. Didn't stop me from TT because every WS thinks they are unique. Their situation is different. Believes and lies to themselves they are doing it to protect their BS. Of course it is Bullshit and every WS and BS alike see through it. They are doing it to protect themselves. For many different reasons. Some it is to keep control. The upper hand. For some they just have issues with control. Who wants to have that over their head for the rest of their lives. For some it is the fear of the "bad guy image and losing the reputation". For some I suspect pride. Most had BS going through stuff and oh my God, what would happen if the BS knew that during all that stuff their spouse was actively cheating. Imagine a WS that already has self esteem issues be rightfully pointed out as a hypocrite. They would lose their trump card. In the marriage they might appear better than the spouse they betrayed. They wouldn't be when the betrayed finds out. Yeah, pride plays a part. Majority just don't want to lose their wife and probably some don't want divorce and to have to pay. For most like myself. Fear. We are cowards afterall. I was a coward to face my consequences. I knew I deserved them though. I had to get really disgusted with myself and to really stop being selfish to come clean.

"Nothing in this world is worth having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty." Teddy Roosevelt
D-day 9-4-12 Me;WS



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BraveSirRobin ( member #69242) posted at 9:43 PM on Thursday, September 19th, 2019

Whenever a BS asks why a WS would TT, I think to myself that no wayward intends to TT. We intend to lie. TT is just us "failing" at it, whether it's because we're bad liars, our BS are good investigators, AP throws us under the bus, or we have a momentary burst of conscience. But I'd be surprised if any WS ever thinks, "I'll purposefully let this out just a few devastating facts at a time." We believe we'll get away with never disclosing parts of it at all.

Of course, we don't characterize it that way. After all, criminals "get away with it," and we're just good people who made a terrible mistake. So we assign some kind of noble reason or rational purpose to our actions, a special circumstance that makes us an exception. I was certainly in that category. In fact, here's a list for lurking WS, entitled "What You May Be Thinking."

1. I'm sorry I did it, but it's just going to keep the pain alive if we endlessly rehash it.

2. Now that I've seen how badly I hurt my BS, there's no fucking way I'm making it worse.

3. My BS would leave me if they knew the truth.

4. I never loved the AP, and my BS would misunderstand the facts and make more of them than there really is.

5. I cared about the AP, and I owe them their privacy. It's over, and we agreed to keep what happened between us.

6. I've already given my BS the big picture, so the sexual details are just salt in the wound.

7. There's no evidence. AP and I are the only ones who know, so I'd be pointlessly putting my head in the noose.

8. I'll forget the A eventually, at which point it will be like those acts never even happened. In fact, did they? Really, I'm not sure anymore.

9. It's easy for you to say "tell," but you have no idea of the shitstorm that will rain down on me, AP, our jobs, our kids, our families, our friends, our finances, and our community standing if I do.

10. Of course you'd say "tell," because you all side with the BS. Yes, I fucked up, but I had no idea it would be this bad, and no one cares about the hell I'm going through.

11. You don't know the whole story. My BS isn't as innocent in all this as you think.

12. I want to come clean, but I've never been this scared in my whole life. My BS means everything to me. I can't believe what I did, and I can't face them and admit it. I just can't.

Here's the thing. Every WS here has thought some of the things on the list. I suspect that many of us have thought many of the things on the list. But no remorseful spouse thinks any of the things on the list, and getting to remorse is the point of this site.

All of the arguments on the list have one thing in common, and that's the underlying belief that you -- your priorities, opinions, preferences, fears, hopes, regrets -- are more important than honesty with your BS. You have to get to the point where you understand that nothing is more important than honesty with your BS. Because if you don't, you are deliberately and calculatedly setting them up for long term torture in your personal self-interest. Take all the frosting off it, and that's the cake you're left with. You aren't protecting them, you're protecting you.

I know because I did it. I was a nice girl, kind, loving, hardworking, an honest employee, a helpful volunteer, good with kids and animals, who tortured the person I loved most with an extended hell of uncertainty, insecurity, and self-doubt. How long did I do that? For twenty nine years. Twenty nine years, and yes, it's been a year of pain for me since D-Day 2, but it is a whole other level of pain for my BH. He gets to re-experience everything he faced in the first round, with the added horror and disbelief that his wife was capable of lying to his face about the extent of her involvement with another man. That she coldly decided to control the most major decisions of his life to suit what she wanted. We weren't married when I cheated, we had no kids, no shared finances. It would have been easy for him to walk away and start a new life, if that was what he chose... which, of course, is exactly why I didn't tell.

You need to face that the cat is out of the damn bag. You're here, so you already failed once at keeping your BS from finding out that you cheated. And we really do get it here, that you're in full self-preservation mode, thinking you can stop the tide. We know that when you get caught again and again in your lies, you don't think, "Look how this is destroying my BS. I can't keep doing this to them; I really do have to come clean right this second." You think, "Holy shit, that's more than I ever thought I could admit without them throwing me out. I can't believe that just happened and I'm still breathing. Now I'd really better batten down the hatches on what's left, because I know that it would bury me, and I've already used up more chances than I ever thought I had." And so the clock starts ticking until the next time your BS gets their heart broken, their world retorn apart.

Might your BS divorce you if you come clean? Yes. I can't lie to you about that. But the stunning thing on SI is the number of spouses who thought they would D if cheated on, who were absolutely sure of it, and don't. Because even though you don't deserve it, they love you. They love the life they have with you. And if you're lucky enough to have them at least try to stick around (and again, that's statistically likely, or you wouldn't be on this site), the only damn thing they ask from you is that you admit what you've done and stop doing it. Stop the cheating, stop the lies, take responsibility, get to work to figure out how to never do it again. Stop putting yourself first.

The list is meaningless. Work on accepting that, if you expect to get anything useful out of being here. Because if you're still TTing, there really is no point in saying you'll "do anything" to help your BS. What you mean is that you'll do anything that doesn't keep you from getting what you want. Really, that's not any different from what you did during the affair. It would be kinder to leave.

WW/BW

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foreverlabeled ( member #52070) posted at 10:57 PM on Thursday, September 19th, 2019

I guess I'm a unicorn, my TT stopped just days after dday. And let me tell you it was big information. Two more APs in fact. I literally could have gotten away with just the one. I remember the day I confessed to more so clearly. I was scared shitless pacing the kitchen, talking myself in between do and don't. The thoughts going through my head in that moment were a bit insane and definitely intense.

My life with him flashed by so quickly in both directions, with him and without. Our life up to that point too. Each time I talked myself up to be honest a counter thought destroyed it and brought me back to the beginning. I was on the verge of a panic attack and then one single thought stopped me in my tracks.

I reminded myself that I wanted to do this the right way, not knowing what that was and then soon learning, what would be the point of going about it any other way. I felt I had already brought our M to rubble and to build a new foundation on more lies wouldn't be fair to either one of us should we (he) decide to build up again.

I didn't know about the effects of TT at this juncture but I did understand that anything but the truth at this point was useless and I applied my own common sense here. It fit.

It became personal in that the off chance we survived the truth our foundation would be solid and pure. The new foundation would have zero traces of adulteration. That was important to me. No way could I move forward with more lies, not now. My own outcome of authenticity and real change was a high priority. Honestly, if it meant I lost him, I was ready for change and an awakening. I just kept praying he'd see us through. He's a soldier literally and figuratively and I kinda banked on it.

So, after all that pacing and thinking I finally told myself, legit, "fuck it".. I called for him, took a deep breath, as he entered the kitchen without a thought I just blurted out "there's more". Once said there was no going back. The outcome no longer mattered he needed to know the truth.

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TCarp ( new member #70194) posted at 6:53 PM on Friday, September 20th, 2019

I haven't been on here in a while, saw this thread, and thought I would reply. I have been thinking about the whole disclosure process a lot over the last couple of years. It's a very complicated dynamic in the beginning as infidelity is discovered. I trickled out the truth for 18 months and so wish I could go back and do it right.

HOWEVER, most cheaters have been lying for a LONG time. They do not believe they will be accepted and loved if they present who they really are. I have seen or heard of no counselors tackling this challenge. IMO, they don't know how to guide this really. I know that's a broad brush I just applied but I know a lot of guys in SA recovery.

You have got to get the cheater to see they can't continue to live like they have:

1. If you live in lies, no one knows you and even if they do accept the front you put up, you are still not truly accepted. It's an F'd up way to live. It needs to be confronted.

2. Living in truth is the only way to heal. You don't believe that as the cheater because you have believed a lot of lies to this point. The lies embraced as an individual have to be dismantled first before the marriage can be addressed. If someone won't do that work, they certainly won't do the marriage work.

So how to proceed? Carefully. The BS has to be cautioned if you push for the truth too early, you won't get it. The cheater has to do some work to see why they embraced this way of living. The cheater has to see that this has never worked even if he/she thought it was working. This will take time and I know time is an issue. I feel for the BS who desperately needs answers and truth.

Me: WH 55

Her: BW 58

Married 30 years

2 Kiddos: 24yo daughter, 12yo son

1st DDay 1/6/2008, final: 11/2009

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