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Shocked1989 (original poster new member #72241) posted at 3:33 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
This is my first post and don’t really know all the abbreviations so please forgive me if I get something wrong or don’t use one when I should. I’ve been lurking for two months. Here’s a little of my story. I found out my husband of 21 years had an 18 month affair on Nov. 19, 2019. He came clean because our son discovered some text messages between him and the ap a few days before DDay. My ds shared with our college dd who confronted my WS while he was out of town. She warned him she would tell me if he didn’t. He told me a portion of the truth as soon as he got home. Made me think it was an emotional affair but that they had inappropriate texts throughout the 18 months. He hid it and that’s why it was wrong. Our kids got the same explanation. He told me it was over and explained to her in an 11 minute conversation that day (not in front of me) that I knew about the affair and it had to stop, not to contact him again. He deleted her contact, (he is technologically challenged and didn’t know about blocking) gave me access to his phone, iPad, etc. He hoped we could move on and he wouldn’t have to divulge everything. I didn’t believe the story but was afraid he would delete any other evidence before I could look at it. I never got to see any texts. He would delete those as they happened. I guess he got sloppy the night my son found out. It took him 3 weeks to admit they did have sex 5 times over an 18 month period. They would meet for lunch or at a bar in the late afternoon about twice a month, sometimes more and texted a lot. This hussy would even call him around 6 or 7 pm at home and he would walk outside and talk. She was a complete hussy and I hate her.
My husband and I have been doing well and working on our marriage. We have days where I really lose it but we are communicating and he is open to answering any of my questions. He understands he has to be my healer.
The question I have is this....it’s been 2 months and it bothers me that I didn’t tell the spouse of his ap. I really couldn’t care less about their marriage but hate that we’re going through this bs and she’s getting away with it. Should I tell him now after 2 months? I’m worried about what he might do to our family. He knows my husband because he was there the night they all met at a bar. She got my husbands phone number under the pretense of inviting “us” to a party at their house. She immediately started contacting him. When he said we couldn’t make it, she suggested they get together for lunch and he went along with it. They started texting and that’s how it all started. Thanks for your help and opinions.
[This message edited by Shocked1989 at 10:14 PM, January 19th (Sunday)]
Cheating on a good person is like throwing away a diamond and picking up a rock.
BW (me) 49
WH 58
Married 21 years, 3 kids
d-day November 19, 2019
Duration of A - 18 months
pearlamici ( member #67631) posted at 4:14 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
Hello Shocked - I'm sorry you have to be here.... you must absolutely tell the other BS. So many reasons why and other posters will come along soon wording it better. but to start - simply - wouldn't you want someone to tell you (anyone???) And it is kinder coming from the other betrayed spouse (because you're feeling the devastation he is about to go through). You are only two months ot from this ... I am almost six years away from Dday (reconciled) and i must say this is the worst thing I have ever gone through (and I've lost a 14 year old child). My feelings can change on a dime on any given day. The only advice I have other than telling the other spouse ASAP (and let the f*cking chips fall where they may) is don't make any promises... don't hold yourself to any decisions.
~Bad marriages don’t cause affairs. Affairs cause bad marriages.~
RubixCubed ( member #51615) posted at 4:19 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
Yes, you should tell the OBS other betrayed spouse.
It's the moral thing to do.
"But I'm trying, Ringo. I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd."
Unhinged ( member #47977) posted at 4:23 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
Absolutely! There is no substitute for truth.
Married 2005
D-Day April, 2015
Divorced May, 2022
"The Universe is not short on wake-up calls. We're just quick to hit the snooze button." -Brene Brown
Shocked1989 (original poster new member #72241) posted at 4:25 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
I almost feel like telling him the truth will bring bad karma on me.
Cheating on a good person is like throwing away a diamond and picking up a rock.
BW (me) 49
WH 58
Married 21 years, 3 kids
d-day November 19, 2019
Duration of A - 18 months
pearlamici ( member #67631) posted at 4:30 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
Because you think you're telling him to get revenge on her (AP). That's not why we're telling you to disclose. This happened.... you are telling the other BS so that he has some control over his life - he may be wondering why he tries so hard to be a good husband but yet still has a distant wife (I'm guessing here but there are many different scenarios) He has a right to know if he has been exposed to STDs. He has a right to know what the truth of his life really is. That is why you tell him.
~Bad marriages don’t cause affairs. Affairs cause bad marriages.~
GoldenR ( member #54778) posted at 4:35 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
If he had found out first, would you have wanted him to tell you?
sassylee ( member #45766) posted at 4:50 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
I wished bad karma on the people who knew about the affair but allowed me to stay ignorant about my own life. Remember, the OBS isn’t the enemy. In many situations, they become your best ally to ensure the affair doesn’t go underground. Often, the OBS can find texts you don’t know about and the AP confesses things your WH is still lying about.
Let the poor man know what is happening in his life. Allow him the knowledge to protect himself physically and emotionally. Do the right thing....even if it’s for the wrong reasons.
After all the years I’ve been here - rarely does the OBS want to cause trouble for the innocent victims. Do you think he’s deranged? Is he an ex-convict? Probably not or you wouldn’t have been in the same social circle when you met them.
When you speak to him, allow him to see you as himself. You are both victims. Be kind and offer to share all information he needs once he gets over the initial shock. Do not insult his wife. Be very straight forward and factual. And DO NOT tell your husband. They quite often call the AP to warn them and get their stories straight. And, if your husband approaches you with the knowledge, you’ll know they haven’t been “No Contact”.
Good luck Shocked. Let us know how it goes.
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My R(eformed)WH had a 5 month EA in 2012
In my 7th year of R
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Shocked1989 (original poster new member #72241) posted at 4:52 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
I would definitely want to know. I have heard this man has issues with porn addiction or did, apparently they are both a mess.
Cheating on a good person is like throwing away a diamond and picking up a rock.
BW (me) 49
WH 58
Married 21 years, 3 kids
d-day November 19, 2019
Duration of A - 18 months
sassylee ( member #45766) posted at 4:56 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
First, take anything AP or your WH says about OBS with a grain of salt. My husband made me out to be a psycho control freak. I am the complete opposite of a control freak but when I found my husband lying to doctors to obtain Oxy, I told him I would not tolerate a drug addicted spouse and to stop. I guess that makes me controlling. WS always make their BS’s out to be horrible so they can justify their shifty actions.
[This message edited by SI Staff at 10:57 PM, January 19th (Sunday)]
My R(eformed)WH had a 5 month EA in 2012
In my 7th year of R
“LOVE is a commitment, not an emotion. It is a conscious act of a covenant of unconditional love. It is a mindset and a thought process.” - BigHeart2018’s Professor
Robert22205https ( member #65547) posted at 4:58 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
When you notify the OBS do not tell your husband in advance. Why? because he will notify the OW and she will discredit you as jealous or controlling.
Your concerns are pretty common and have been posted and discussed often on this web site. You can scan down the list of topics (like yours) they are self explanatory as to what the subject is.
I don't recall any BS regretting notifying the OBS.
The OBS is being abused and his health is being placed at risk (don't assume this is the OW's first affair).
The OBS may be suspicious (losing sleep and losing weight) and think he's going insane from jealousy or being over controlling.
Finally, the OBS is your best ally in making sure the affair stops.
Mizzbak ( member #64330) posted at 5:04 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
It doesn't matter what your reasons actually are for doing so - telling the OBS (other betrayed spouse) is still the right thing to do. I was once that OBS - and whilst I know that the OW's husband told me because he wanted to hurt my H ... I am still very grateful that he did tell me.
Practically speaking, it also means that there is an extra pair of eyes and ears watching from the other side. (It is not always the case that an "ended" affair stays ended.)
I also think that not telling makes you almost an accessory to the affair ... and that guilt and shame should be none of yours.
“I have learned now that while those who speak about one's miseries usually hurt, those who keep silence hurt more.” ― C.S. Lewis
Dragonfly123 ( member #62802) posted at 6:35 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
I honestly think it’s THIS simple, by keeping it to yourself, you’re protecting (by proxy) the AP and your WS from fallout and consequences. Telling the OBS gives him his personal agency back, his ability to do what he wants to do with a marriage that is currently a sham. It’s simply the moral thing to do.
When you can’t control what’s happening, challenge yourself to control the way you respond to what’s happening. That’s where the power is.
ibonnie ( member #62673) posted at 7:10 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
I almost feel like telling him the truth will bring bad karma on me.
If anything, I think it would do the opposite. Staying mum would be more likely to bring bad karma, because the you're complicit in covering up an illicit affair.
By telling the OBS (other betrayed spouse), you're enlightening him about the truth/reality of his relationship/life.
And if the situation was reversed, wouldn't you have wanted him to inform you of your partners affair if he found out first? How would you feel if you found out months or years later that he knew about the affair and never gave you a heads up?
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Skoochnski ( member #71884) posted at 8:00 AM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
First off let me begin by telling you how sorry I am that you found yourself here because of your husband’s actions. And then let me express how happy I am that you have found us because the people here genuinely want to help you. ❤️
As for telling the APs spouse; I always looked at it like this:
Pretend that you are hiking out in the forest on a well traveled trail. Other hikers have taken this path before you and others will come after you. On your journey down this trail you encounter a snake! You successfully avoid the snake and continue on your path. You see other hikers coming toward you.
Wouldn’t you warn them about the snake?
You would want to know. He deserves to know.
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ME: 45 WH-47 Dday09-07-19 (our anniversary) Dday #2 11/12/19- Admitted to PA with AP #1 AP#1 2005 former COW- 6 Mo. EA/PA . AP#2- 27 year old former COW- EA, sexting. AP #3-24 year old current COW (he’s her supervisor) EA, sexting, plans to meet for PA
ShutterHappy ( member #64318) posted at 4:50 PM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
It’s important that you change your mindset: You are, in no way, responsible for the affair. When a BS tells the OBS, the BS "doesn’t destroy the other family".
The family destruction and all the other negative consequences are because of the affair.
It’s like the cop ringing the doorbell to inform the occupants of a tragic death. It sucks, but the cops are not responsible.
The Karma, as you call it, should go to the waywards.
So many times we read here on SI, the wayward saying: don’t tell the OBS, You will hurt him/her! This is totally backward thinking.
We, the BS are the victims and the Waywards are the one destroying marriages, families, lives.
Me: BH
Divorced, remarried.
I plan on living forever. So far so good
Shocked1989 (original poster new member #72241) posted at 5:08 PM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
Thanks so much for your input everyone. I spoke to the OBS today and everything is out. He’s shocked but guess what...it’s happened before. No surprise there!
Cheating on a good person is like throwing away a diamond and picking up a rock.
BW (me) 49
WH 58
Married 21 years, 3 kids
d-day November 19, 2019
Duration of A - 18 months
ShutterHappy ( member #64318) posted at 9:29 PM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
You did the right thing. Now if your WH complains about this (assuming you didn’t tell him), it means that your WH and his AP are still talking.
Me: BH
Divorced, remarried.
I plan on living forever. So far so good
faithfulman ( member #66002) posted at 9:34 PM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
pearlamici ( member #67631) posted at 10:29 PM on Monday, January 20th, 2020
You did the right thing. Did you tell your WH? Or are you waiting to hear if he "somehow" finds out OBS now knows ?
~Bad marriages don’t cause affairs. Affairs cause bad marriages.~
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