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notmeanymore ( member #9772) posted at 11:29 PM on Tuesday, February 10th, 2015

I have a question for the menz.

I don't orgasm easily. I can manually myself, more easily with toys. But with someone else I feel like I'm always "oh there, no back, stop, up, right, 1 cm to the left" and it's just ridiculous and rarely gets me there.

1) should I try to broach the subject of what sorts of touch would lead to higher probability when we're not in the throes?

2)would it bother you if a toy was "necessary". Like, would you be somehow insulted? threatened? I dunno...disappointed? Just happy SOMETHING worked for christ sake?

In a new relationship and I'm wondering where to go with this. The good news is it's pretty clear he's determined to make it happen.

"Put the cuckoo back in the clock baby" - Four Brothers

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healingroad ( member #41920) posted at 11:47 PM on Tuesday, February 10th, 2015

notmeanymore: Any instruction is good IMO. Just try to frame it as something you need and not something he's not doing right.

A woman who is determined to cum with me (with toys or whatever) is pretty f'n sexy, IMO.

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h0peless ( member #36697) posted at 2:31 AM on Wednesday, February 11th, 2015

I think instruction is great and I think honest communication about the toys (along the lines of what you just posted here) should be OK too. It isn't personal if it's a long standing problem you've had.

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feelinghurt10 ( member #28600) posted at 12:30 AM on Thursday, February 12th, 2015

If a condom is the only means of birth control for you and your partner, would you rather have sex using a condom or not have sex?

Me- BS-51. Dday #1 4/3/2010 ; Officially divorced - 10/26/2012"No matter what happens, or how bad it seems today, life does go on, and it will be better tomorrow." ~Maya Angelou

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HeartFullOfHoles ( member #42874) posted at 12:57 AM on Thursday, February 12th, 2015

Since he has the right perspective I would imagine a little help to fine tune his technique would be appreciated. I doubt toys would be a problem for me, just never needed them so far.

I would pick a condom over celibacy.

BH - Tried to R for too long, now happily divorced
D-Day 4/28-29/2012 (both 48 at the time)
Two adult daughters

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healingroad ( member #41920) posted at 1:32 AM on Thursday, February 12th, 2015

If a condom is the only means of birth control for you and your partner, would you rather have sex using a condom or not have sex?

Trick question, right? Sex please.

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devotedman ( member #45441) posted at 1:48 AM on Thursday, February 12th, 2015

feelinghurt10 asked:

If a condom is the only means of birth control for you and your partner, would you rather have sex using a condom or not have sex?

Sex.

Now, there are lots of other ways to reach orgasm, too, but they should not be used as a substitute for condom-using sex.

Me: 2xBS b 1962 xWW after 2 decades, xWGF after almost 1.
Amelia Pond: Who are you?
The Doctor: I don't know yet. I'm still cooking.
ENFP-A. Huh.

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devotedman ( member #45441) posted at 1:53 AM on Thursday, February 12th, 2015

notmeanymore asked:

1) should I try to broach the subject of what sorts of touch would lead to higher probability when we're not in the throes?

Talk before, directions a time or two and then I'll "handle" it from there. (Heh. See what I did there?)

2)would it bother you if a toy was "necessary". Like, would you be somehow insulted? threatened? I dunno...disappointed? Just happy SOMETHING worked for christ sake?

Queen said it best:

I consider it a challenge/ before the whole human race/ that I ain't gonna lose!

Seriously, if it were required then I would do my best to begin experimenting with ways that the toy would become not required. Still fun, but not required. Lots of practice. More foreplay, teasing, seducing, stroking various bits. If that didn't work I'd not be bothered, I'd just keep trying.

Me: 2xBS b 1962 xWW after 2 decades, xWGF after almost 1.
Amelia Pond: Who are you?
The Doctor: I don't know yet. I'm still cooking.
ENFP-A. Huh.

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StillGoing ( member #28571) posted at 4:21 AM on Thursday, February 12th, 2015

If a condom is the only means of birth control for you and your partner, would you rather have sex using a condom or not have sex?

Well, she can't use those pills because of a chemistry issue and I'm sure as hell not taking a knife to my dick, so we use condoms regularly.

Tempus Fuckit.

- Ricky

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Herkemeyer ( member #36910) posted at 7:51 AM on Thursday, February 12th, 2015

would it bother you if a toy was "necessary". Like, would you be somehow insulted? threatened? I dunno...disappointed? Just happy SOMETHING worked for christ sake?

This used to be no problem for me..Toys?..bring'em on! Whatever you need to get off. But now I know with the OM she achieved orgasm 100% w/o toys, it can be a trigger.

BH-43
(F?)WW-39 (neznayou)
DDay-08/10/12 TT for 18 Months (I think)
Married 19 years

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matthesax ( member #42724) posted at 8:17 PM on Saturday, February 14th, 2015

I've never been in a situation where toys were necessary. But if that's what you need to be satisfied - then go girl.

Far better to say what you need , than rely on your partner to "get it", without any information.

Don't look back unless you can smile, don't look forward unless you can dream.

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AFrayedKnot ( member #36622) posted at 8:47 PM on Saturday, February 14th, 2015

I would choose option 1 over option 2 any day.

Toys have become an intimacy killer much like porn. It has come to the point they are the only option that still works. It was progressive. It is discouraging.

(The only reason it is not humiliating is I never had any issues with Women In my past)

BS 48fWS 44 (SurprisinglyOkay)DsD DSA whole bunch of shit that got a lot worse before it got better."Knowing is half the battle"

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hereagain2 ( member #44695) posted at 10:42 PM on Saturday, February 14th, 2015

As I read these I just wish I had a H to try these things on..they sound enjoyable either way...

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Brandon808 ( member #35619) posted at 12:03 AM on Sunday, February 15th, 2015

@notmeanymore

1) Yes, you can bring up the subject. Though I would recommend making it less a discussion and about sharing something intimate. You could even make it a fun "game" of sorts with the idea of taking intimacy to the next level.

2) Never bothered me before. I'd rather be included than replaced.

@feelinghurt10

Condom. Every time.

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Other2014 ( new member #45020) posted at 9:15 AM on Sunday, February 15th, 2015

This ques is for the ones who has been with prostitutes,

Do the encounters actually give the porn movie experience? I am assuming that works as a motivation for being with a prostitutes or escorts.

Is the sex actually that good that you would want to continue visiting prostitutes?

How do you feel having sex with your wife after being with prostitutes?

My WH never liked giving oral to me but he was happy to give oral to prostitutes cause he found them "cleaner"????? Is it his twisted mind or he is just not attracted to me?

[This message edited by Other2014 at 3:16 AM, February 15th (Sunday)]

Me- BS - 31
Him- WS-32 - Highschool sweetheart and one and only bf
Together 11 yrs, Married 6 yrs
DS- 2 yrs
TNA Board escorts, 6-10 in two and half mo, Craigslist casual encounters, strip clubs
DDay- July , 2014
Status: seperated and in limbo

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SpecialK ( member #42372) posted at 5:41 PM on Sunday, February 15th, 2015

Dipping my toe into this pool... Okay gentlemen, if another man told you he wasn't into masturbation, oral (giving or receiving), could only "come" in one position, what would you think??

And miles to go......

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devotedman ( member #45441) posted at 6:07 PM on Sunday, February 15th, 2015

Dipping my toe into this pool... Okay gentlemen, if another man told you he wasn't into masturbation, oral (giving or receiving), could only "come" in one position, what would you think??

I have never, ever heard of that -outside of- sexual hangups of some kind or other.

I've had women partners like this and they just weren't that into sex. Which sort of spoiled it for me.

Also, that doesn't sound like the wild, no holes barred, wrestling match that sexual romps should be. The intimacy you can get by spending a couple of hours or so exploring, pleasuring, and bonding feels wonderful.

[This message edited by devotedman at 12:08 PM, February 15th (Sunday)]

Me: 2xBS b 1962 xWW after 2 decades, xWGF after almost 1.
Amelia Pond: Who are you?
The Doctor: I don't know yet. I'm still cooking.
ENFP-A. Huh.

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dullache ( member #45999) posted at 6:44 PM on Sunday, February 15th, 2015

SpecialK, this makes sense to me only if the guy is in his sixties.

Me: BS/fWH
Her: fWW/BS
My dday: Oct 95 (15+ PA)
Her dday: 4 total, last 11/24/2014

Status: R is moving along, tears, joys and all. Thank you Jesus
5 kids (youngest 15)
Married: 28 years

Bitterness is like eating rat poison and hoping the rat di

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dullache ( member #45999) posted at 6:48 PM on Sunday, February 15th, 2015

Notmeanymore, toys are good to get things started if the ice needs thawing.

As to minutely detailed instructions during sex, I sometimes get this from fWW and it can be frustrating.

BUT, it can be (and usually is) very arousing. My pretty, sexy bride telling me what to do to her? Naked? In bed?

VA VA VOOM!

Me: BS/fWH
Her: fWW/BS
My dday: Oct 95 (15+ PA)
Her dday: 4 total, last 11/24/2014

Status: R is moving along, tears, joys and all. Thank you Jesus
5 kids (youngest 15)
Married: 28 years

Bitterness is like eating rat poison and hoping the rat di

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h0peless ( member #36697) posted at 6:57 PM on Sunday, February 15th, 2015

Never been with prostitutes... Gross. I'll have to skip that one.

Okay gentlemen, if another man told you he wasn't into masturbation, oral (giving or receiving), could only "come" in one position, what would you think??

I would think he might be a martian or something. I doubt that's the sort of thing a guy would share with his buddies, though, so it could be a thing...

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