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allatsea (original poster member #38923) posted at 11:43 AM on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014
Probabale
C stands for crazy. Abbondad has started using it for his ex, too!
Last night we had round two of the 'negotiation'. I have to call it that but it was clear that she has no real intention of compromising at all. In fact, it wasn't her I was negotiating with. It was Gru, I'm sure of it. It was all done over email and the rudeness, aggression and accusations were awful. I kept on track and we boiled the discussion down to arguing over a single number.
By the end of a long and painful night we were only £10K apart and both sides had made some sacrifices. Despite being threatened and told that the judge will award her sole custody of the children I persevered.
I made one last ditch attempt and offered to split the difference. She REJECTED it. She said she would rather go to court and take her chances. This will immediately cost her £2,000 and delay things by 3 months. She will be 8.5 months pregnant by then and in the meantime will have to pay her half of the mortgage for another 3 months, too.
I've since written to her lawyer in the hopes that they can persuade her to settle. She/ he are so angry and deluded.
You can't fix crazy. All you can do is document it
mike7 ( member #38603) posted at 11:48 AM on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014
loot and pillage my man. crush her like a grape.
it's clear they don't love you. She tore apart your family and is now trying to hurt you. she has no respect, no concern, no love.
crush her
BH 60
WW 58
Two grown kids
DDay 1/15/2013
alback ( member #41336) posted at 12:14 PM on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014
AllatSea,
What happened to all communication via your lawyer, your post Nov 14?
Don't let the witch suck you in with this direct emails horsecrap, she now has it in writing from you that you are willing to meet her half way again?
Go no direct contact unless it involves something happening to the kids?
good luck, stay the course!
allatsea (original poster member #38923) posted at 12:30 PM on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014
Alback,
I hear what you are saying. With the exception of the recent negotiation everything has been through her solicitor.
CSTBXWW has expressed her frustration that I send her solicitor many letters
I don't expect to hear directly from her again
You can't fix crazy. All you can do is document it
LivinginLimbo ( member #35004) posted at 1:04 PM on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014
And once again she's using your children for leverage. Yet another nominee for "mother of the year" award.
I do hope that you prevail.
BS - 65
WH - 63
Married 37 years
D-Day 2/12/12
D-Day 6/1/16 Caught him back online early enough that no physical contact took place but still devastating. This sucks.
allatsea (original poster member #38923) posted at 1:08 PM on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014
I just got this from my lawyer:
"I am sorry that CSTBXWW continues to be so unpleasant to deal with.
If she was willing to sit down and discuss matters then no doubt some reasonable settlement could be achieved. She has no automatic right to the child benefit. She took the children to live with her without your agreement and therefore arguably if you have a joint residence order you will each be entitled to 50% of this money.
Regarding access to the house (CSTBXWW has threatened to attempt entry), do you think she really will try and re-enter?. The legal answer is that she can re-enter. If however, she causes a breach of the peace in doing so, then the police will ask her to leave. There is no reason why she needs to come into the property. She is just getting angry it seems and trying to score points. I hope she does the right thing and stays out of the house.
I have filed the documents you sent. It sounds like she is not getting her way at the moment so that she is behaving in a more desperate manner."
[This message edited by allatsea at 7:08 AM, January 15th (Wednesday)]
You can't fix crazy. All you can do is document it
OK now ( member #14459) posted at 1:17 PM on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014
loot and pillage my man. crush her like a grape.
I find I agree a lot with Mike7. Great statement! Declare war, take no prisoners.
alback ( member #41336) posted at 1:23 PM on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014
Allatsea:
Perfect! Your directives via your lawyer are frustrating her. It was at her request so TFB. The witch is more likely to settle with formal requests, it means her lawyer gets to advise her every time at her expense too.
She is a witch and knows how to pull your chain, easier to do it to you with direct contact. Go no contact unless an emergency with the kids. Stick to it, this will settle quicker.
cheers,
alback
k94ever ( member #11176) posted at 6:06 PM on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014
And to think she thought you would just roll over and go quietly away.
snork.
k9
BS:61
WS: 53
Betrayed: 24 years
Affairs: 15 (2 lasted 3 months. Rest were ONS)
WS died: 16 May 2011
Do not stay in your hurt forever. Choose to move out of it.
Getting to Happy ( member #35200) posted at 6:45 PM on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014
Your strength is amazing. Hang in there!
WS him
BS me DD's 26, 25' DS 23
dd1 1-1-10, dd2 Mothers Day 2011, dd3 3-12-12 Hawaii trip with ho-worker...
Never forget what is worth remembering or remember what is best forgotten.
Unknown
sinsof thefather ( member #29295) posted at 7:55 PM on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014
In fact, it wasn't her I was negotiating with. It was Gru, I'm sure of it. It was all done over email and the rudeness, aggression and accusations were awful. I kept on track and we boiled the discussion down to arguing over a single number.
I just love that you didn't rise to the bait and kept on track aas. That the rudeness and aggression were coming from them, not you...and that you still held your ground.
...and
By the end of a long and painful night we were only £10K apart
I made one last ditch attempt and offered to split the difference. She REJECTED it. She said she would rather go to court and take her chances. This will immediately cost her £2,000 and delay things by 3 months.
and in the meantime will have to pay her half of the mortgage for another 3 months, too.
So let me get this straight. £5,000 minus the £2,000 solicitor and court costs, and minus the three months of mortgage payments leaves...what? I'd say it leaves proof that you really do have a very stubborn and plain crazy ex who would rather cut off her nose to spite her face than cede an inch to you. I can just picture her and Gru sitting there at their screen spitting nails... because you were sticking to your guns...and the facts. It must have driven them nuts...and will cost them a lot of aggravation to get the change out of that five grand. If in fact, they even get it.
Priceless.
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...second star to the right and straight on till morning.
happyman64 ( member #33212) posted at 2:09 AM on Thursday, January 16th, 2014
AllAtSea
While it is frustrating to deal with your crazy Ex and her Affair partner does it make you ponder if it will be better to have her in court with her big belly and your lawyer pointing out to the judge the following:
A. Your wife cheated on you.
B. Your wife took your sons to live at her affair partners house without your permission.
C. Your wife has kept to an erratic parenting schedule to be emotionally cruel to you.
D. Your wife is 8.5 months pregnant by the OM and you are not legally divorced.
Does your lawyer not think this would be helpful in your case? Would the judge not be moved by any of these facts at all?
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allatsea (original poster member #38923) posted at 8:56 AM on Thursday, January 16th, 2014
Happyman,
Whilst I agree with you 100% and consider that she shouldn't be entitled to anything for her actions, the court does not take her immoral behaviour into account. They are quite dispassionate when it comes to dividing assets.
In fact, CSTBXWW is pushing that she should have a greater percentage BECAUSE she is pregnant.
I'm reasonably confident that it will all be settled soon, somehow.
My interraction with her over the past few days has made me realise quite how 'off the rails' she has gone. Her deluded mindset has reached epic proportions. She/ He called me a narcissistic sociopath which I had to laugh at. It's almost like she's transferring her image of herself onto me.
[This message edited by allatsea at 7:04 AM, January 16th (Thursday)]
You can't fix crazy. All you can do is document it
sinsof thefather ( member #29295) posted at 4:07 PM on Thursday, January 16th, 2014
She/ He called me a narcissistic sociopath..
...and there was me thinking you were the wronged party here... how silly of me!
...of course it's now obvious to me that it's CSTXWW and Gru who are your victims... afterall, you so stubbornly won't just roll over and give them the house, or full custody of the boys... with a pink sunset thrown in for good measure...yep - they're right. It must be you that has a psychosis afterall aas..
...second star to the right and straight on till morning.
allatsea (original poster member #38923) posted at 4:30 PM on Thursday, January 16th, 2014
Sins,
You're funny
If I didn't laugh about the craziness of it all I would be in the corner crying
You can't fix crazy. All you can do is document it
cliffside ( member #38803) posted at 6:10 PM on Thursday, January 16th, 2014
She/ He called me a narcissistic sociopath..
I believe they call that "projection".
Stay strong and SQUASH this bitch.
Me: BS 39
Him: WH 41
2 Kids
D-Day: 2/3/13
Broke NC 3/14, broke again 1/23/15
180ing, in a state of WTFness
Blobette ( member #36519) posted at 8:56 PM on Thursday, January 16th, 2014
AAS -- believe me, the number of times I've thought how handy the expression, "Ya jest gorra laf" is, lately!.
BS (me): 51
WS: 52
Married: 27 yrs
Kids: 2
OW: Co-worker, 7 yr LTA
DD 8/1/2012, Working on R
allatsea (original poster member #38923) posted at 12:59 PM on Friday, January 17th, 2014
I didn't mention this in my last couple of posts because it is trivial and not particularly important but I've since realised that there continues to be a significant lack of empathy from CSTBXWW. I don't say this out of surprise but mainly because I've been incredulous over her recent statement that I was the narcissitic socipoath in our relationship.
She made that outrageous accusation only a few minutes after she had proposed the following during negotiation regarding our family caravan that she has ended up with(trailer for you US fellows). Paraphrasing here:
"It would be easier for me if you would collect, wash, prepare, photograph, advertise, negotiate and sell said item whilst guaranteeing that you then give me all of the proceeds with minimum expectation of £6000."
Basically, I do all of the work, take all of the risk just so she doesn't have to sell it herself. And I would want to do this because.....?
Why would she imagine that I would want to go through the heartache of selling our beloved caravan that we've had many a wonderful family holiday in and then give her ALL of the proceeds?!!!
Fucking crazy bitch
You can't fix crazy. All you can do is document it
tushnurse ( member #21101) posted at 1:43 PM on Friday, January 17th, 2014
She is a real piece of work. Did she consider you a sperm donating, hired worker the entire marriage?
FTB. Can't wait to see the karma hammer come down her, cause when it does it's gonna be hard.
You are doing amazingly well.
Stay Strong.
Me: FBSHim: FWSKids: 23 & 27 Married for 32 years now, was 16 at the time.D-Day Sept 26 2008R'd in about 2 years. Old Vet now.
SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 1:59 PM on Friday, January 17th, 2014
Fucking crazy bitch
I am aghast at her latest request re the caravan. I am literally speechless.
narcissistic sociopath..
She is, in spades.
BW (me) & FWH both over half a century; married several decades; children
d-day 3/10; LTA (7 years?)
"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak." ~ Homer Simpson
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