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 painpaingoaway (original poster member #27196) posted at 2:48 PM on Tuesday, October 15th, 2013

Seriously, can you get your son to NC, where he has a better chance of being admitted right away?? If he needs to stay in state, how about the upstate?

ThoughtIknewya,

The problem is that he will not cooperate. It is sooooo seldom that very small windows of opportunities open up where he is willing to get help. And if not acted on immediately, it is gone like a puff of smoke.

I tried to get him to go to a different hospital the next day, and he would not go.


D-Day June 2009
Watch my movie: "My wayward husband's adventures in STD land":
Episode 1: youtu.be/9Jv0-d_CdYc
Episode 2: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tz822H82Gk

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ZenMumWalking ( member #25341) posted at 5:10 PM on Tuesday, October 15th, 2013

((((ppga))))

Sending you tons of strength, I am so sorry that you are (still) having to deal with all of this.

I hope the next window of opportunity comes quickly and that the help that he needs will be available. It's just UNbelievable that the system is so fucked up.

((((ppga & DS))))

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M: 30+ (19 1/2 at Dday)
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brokenpromise ( member #28859) posted at 11:10 PM on Tuesday, October 15th, 2013

So very sorry PPGA

It is a sad and sorry system when sometimes the only means of getting help is incarceration of some kind.

ER 's so often give them a 'happy ' shot, call them 'stabilized' and they are out in a matter of hours. HIPPA laws prevent any dialog with MDs /psychs/counselors. It is wrong, wrong, wrong.

You and yours are in my thoughts and prayers

BW- Me 62 FWS - 68
M 45 years
DD June 9, 2010
On and off LTA with dept secretary
But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal Matt 6:20

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rainagain ( member #14917) posted at 1:25 AM on Wednesday, October 16th, 2013

(((Ppga))))

Now, faith is being sure of what you hope for and certain of what you cannot see. Heb 11:11 done been through the pain and the sorrow the struggle is nothing but love- Marino Me: Divorced

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jo2love ( member #31528) posted at 4:21 AM on Wednesday, October 16th, 2013

(((Ppga & DS)))

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rainagain ( member #14917) posted at 5:22 PM on Saturday, October 19th, 2013

Ppga how is your son?

Now, faith is being sure of what you hope for and certain of what you cannot see. Heb 11:11 done been through the pain and the sorrow the struggle is nothing but love- Marino Me: Divorced

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ThoughtIKnewYa ( member #18449) posted at 5:30 PM on Saturday, October 19th, 2013

(((ppga)))

I just don't understand how someone with HIS history gets turned away. I don't understand why anyone would take the risk of him doing something to harm himself again. I just don't understand- and I know it must be so frustrating and scary for you.

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 painpaingoaway (original poster member #27196) posted at 12:45 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

Thanks everyone. I found a place in Georgia that I am pretty sure will take him with little to no wait time. However, now he is unwilling to go.

I haven't given up. The next window of opportunity that opens, I will jump on this place.

He has been paranoid, confused, and very depressed, so I am back again to thinking he is misdiagnosed as bipolar, but actually schizophrenic or schizoaffective.

I am taking care of myself, and trying to stay calm. H will be out of town for another week yet, but I am managing okay on my own. I do have support from other family members so I'm not totally alone in this.


D-Day June 2009
Watch my movie: "My wayward husband's adventures in STD land":
Episode 1: youtu.be/9Jv0-d_CdYc
Episode 2: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tz822H82Gk

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nowiknow23 ( member #33226) posted at 12:53 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

((((ppga)))) I am so fervently hoping there's a window right around the corner. Sending you love, strength, comfort, and a metric ton of mojo.

You can call me NIK

And never grow a wishbone, daughter, where your backbone ought to be.
― Sarah McMane

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 painpaingoaway (original poster member #27196) posted at 12:56 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

Thanks NIK.


D-Day June 2009
Watch my movie: "My wayward husband's adventures in STD land":
Episode 1: youtu.be/9Jv0-d_CdYc
Episode 2: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tz822H82Gk

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jo2love ( member #31528) posted at 1:02 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

(((Ppga & son)))

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ThoughtIKnewYa ( member #18449) posted at 1:36 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

(((ppga)))

I thought schizophrenia, too, but a lot of the drugs he's been doing will also mimic that. You won't be able to tell what's going on until he gets clean from drugs. If he IS schizophrenic, then the change in meds will certainly help him.

Sending prayers for your family and I hope he gets ready soon.

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gonnabe2016 ( member #34823) posted at 2:31 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

PPGA, please stay in contact with that GA facility so that there won't be another "oh, sorry. No room" message if/when that window opens again..... I *SO* hope that your son can become a 'success' story.

I have a suggestion that you may find totally *out there*....but....have you considered contacting the Dr. Phil show? You know that he does interventions, right? I would be willing to join in a *save PPGA's son* crusade if it were made available.....

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott

In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.

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ThoughtIKnewYa ( member #18449) posted at 2:56 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

^^^ Or Dr. Drew. You know we'll support you, no matter what!

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 painpaingoaway (original poster member #27196) posted at 3:03 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

I appreciate the sentiments, but I would never put my son in the public eye.

I'm pretty sure the reason Joshua Marks suicided was because he could not cope with his schizophrenia DX.

My son is also terrified of a schizophrenia DX.


D-Day June 2009
Watch my movie: "My wayward husband's adventures in STD land":
Episode 1: youtu.be/9Jv0-d_CdYc
Episode 2: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tz822H82Gk

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ThoughtIKnewYa ( member #18449) posted at 3:09 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

He doesn't have to be in the public eye. It's always his choice.

I know he's probably terrified of the DX, but the way he's living NOW is far worse than the way he'd be living if properly diagnosed and treated.

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LosferWords ( member #30369) posted at 3:22 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

PPGA... sending many healing thoughts of strength and hope to you, your husband, your son, and the rest of your family as well. I wish I had some advice to offer you, but I don't.

Does your son have any peers, friends, or any type of support group that he can turn to? Anyone he can talk to and anchor himself with?

Sending good thoughts and prayers your way...

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gonnabe2016 ( member #34823) posted at 4:15 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

PPGA, I say this with all of the gentleness in my heart that I have.....do you not believe that if your son dies on the street that it will not be broadcast to the *public eye* on the 10pm news?

You have done EVERYTHING in your power to help him. Everything. If your son is *held up* in the public eye by some type of program....BUT he receives the help that he needs....would you not consider the cost *worth it*?

Nevertheless, and whatever your proclivity is, please know that I am rooting for both of you and am praying for a positive outcome. I don't have tons of strength to share with you, but whatever I have....you are welcome to *take some*. I am more than happy to give up my strength to a mom/son in need than a jerky stbx. YOU are way more deserving of it......

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott

In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.

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rainagain ( member #14917) posted at 5:35 AM on Sunday, October 20th, 2013

I have faith that there will be another window of opportunity. Strength and much love,

Rain

Now, faith is being sure of what you hope for and certain of what you cannot see. Heb 11:11 done been through the pain and the sorrow the struggle is nothing but love- Marino Me: Divorced

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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 12:16 AM on Monday, October 21st, 2013

Still hoping for a good outcome - (((ppga & family)))

fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex apDDay - 12/22/2010Recover'd and R'edYou don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.

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