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plainpain (original poster member #40139) posted at 2:48 AM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
It's like he thought, 'Do it and apologize later'. That is how I feel... he premeditated it, knowing I had already said I could not forgive him. So, he 'gets it out of his system', end of mid-life crisis, he gets to forever cherish the loverly memories of his sex romps with his living, breathing blow up doll, and I get to suffer for the rest of my life. I get to know, for the rest of my life, that my faithfulness, my love, my devotion, my loyalty, and 20 years of memories did not stack up against SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T EVEN MEAN ANYTHING. So, I matter LESS than someone who doesn't even mean ANYTHING. That makes me less than nothing, in his eyes. And then I am supposed to forgive him?Why, because he's SORRY, now? Because suddenly I mean something to him? Suddenly he can't live without me? Should have thought of that BEFORE. Should. have. thought. of. that. before.
Whether I forgive him or not, I suffer. Whether I stay with him or not, I suffer. He made a choice that completely disregarded the devastation he KNEW it would cause.
Me: Believer, 40s
Him: Liar, 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R. It only hurts now when it rains.
Tripletrouble ( member #39169) posted at 2:54 AM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Word, sister.
Like I wrote it myself.
40 somethings - me BW after 20 years
D Day April 2013
Divorced November 2013
Happily remarried 2018
Time is a great healer but a terrible beautician.
mchercheur ( member #37735) posted at 2:56 AM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
WOW. Are you inside of my head?
Me: BW; Him: WH --Had 10 mo. EA/ PA with COW; Dday 5/2011 Married 35 years/Together 36 years/4 kids together, and 1 grandbaby; OW 20 years younger than us/divorced no kids Trying to R; don't know what the final outcome will be
kickboxer ( member #39858) posted at 3:40 AM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Yup.
My WH did it over and over and over (3x that I know of).
The premeditation of it all makes my insides cringe.
As I cooked his dinner, tended to his home, and cared for his children........15 years of complete loyalty and devotion.
BW - 42 (Me)
WH - 39 (2 ONS, 6m EA)
Married 15 years, 3 children
DD: 7/13/13
Status: Rugsweeping, I guess.
Lostinthismess ( member #39210) posted at 3:45 AM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Triple word. My thoughts today exactly. Everything that is supposedly worth fighting for now wasn't worth being faithful for then. I don't get it.
'You just keep living, until you are alive again'
'I don't want perfect, I want honest'
plainpain (original poster member #40139) posted at 3:45 AM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
I ironed his shirt, kissed him, told him he looked so handsome, told him I was so proud of him, that he was the best man I had ever known, that I was so blessed to have him, and sent him out the door, whereupon he promptly drove to her house to get some 'validation'. Well. F**k. Me.
Me: Believer, 40s
Him: Liar, 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R. It only hurts now when it rains.
momoffive ( member #27352) posted at 4:11 AM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
This has been my life as well. I washed his clothes, his underwear that would have had remnants of his f**k sessions. I was convinced my faithful, Christian husband would never cheat. For years never even thought about that possibility. Boy was I blindsided.
And now that he has it out of his system and he's a changed man he thinks I should forgive and move on, never getting what I say I need, he never saying anything negative or being mean about his countless whores because, let's remember he's a changed man who is going to be kind to ALL women.
Riiiggghhtt. Sorry for ranting on your post. I'm feeling so angry right now and I totally related to your situation.
BW 46, SAWH 47(sorry1),M27 yrs
Dday1-7/3/09 EA OW4, Dday2-9/1/09 PA OW4
Dday3 3/14/10 Farmville sexting, OW3
Dday4 3/13/11 Secret texting, would be OW5-she said no
Dday5 8/2/11 PA in 2001 OW1, kissing in 2007 OW2
Dday6 7/11/16 EA OW6
jb3199 ( member #27673) posted at 5:08 AM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
That's the rub: They unilaterally decided to destroy our marriage---I mean nuke it---and there is NOTHING that we can do to change it.
Sure, we are not as *broken* as they are/were, we didn't compromise our morals, etc.---ad nauseum. It doesn't change the fact of where we are today.
The cure-all answer? I don't know. Maybe it is as simple as life isn't effing fair. But as forgiveness plainplain---that is decision is yours and yours only. Nobody can make you give that away without your consent.
[This message edited by jb3199 at 11:09 PM, August 11th (Sunday)]
BH-50s
WW-50s
2 boys
Married over 30yrs.
All work and no play has just cost me my wife--Gary PuckettD-Day(s): EnoughAccepting that I can/may end this marriage 7/2/14
Spelljean ( member #35624) posted at 6:41 AM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Right there with you.
Im out of patience. Finished. He can't have any position of value in my life anymore. He will want to be friends too. So he can feel ok about it all. I cant give him that.
I hope you find peace and that you stay strong.
WH: 41
me: BS, 45
Together 18 1/2 years, married 17
DDAY 8/2/12
OW: EA- friend of 4 months
Status: separated
OnAnIsland ( member #34319) posted at 7:26 AM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Indeed. Thought nothing of the long term pain and therapy and hell that I would go through.
Sorry you are here.
D-day: Christmas 2011
D-day 2: 3/28/2013
Married for over 15 years
2 beautiful sons
You may not control all the events that happen to you, but you can decide not to be reduced by them. Maya Angelou
Ostrich80 ( member #34827) posted at 8:55 AM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Words right out of my head. My ws said ow meant nothing and all he wanted was his family...like that's supposed to make me feel better?? He trashed us for "nothing" wtf?
BS..me
WS..him
Been with him over half my life
4kid
DD1 10-01-09 DD2 02-12-12 discovered it never ended
OW..nothing special. Just your average skank
Status..#$%@????
sunflowergirl30 ( member #28979) posted at 1:54 PM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Seems to be in the ws handbook! That AP meant nothing. They sure seemed to mean so much at the time of their fuckery.
Your post verbalized everything I am still thinking 3yrs out.
I told wh before I had found out about his fuckery that If he cheated on me I would hate him and never forgive him. So now hes so surprised I cannot forgive him and that I hate him.
Before I found out about his fuckery I told him to not ever make me share him. He promised he would never do that to me. Well he didnt keep that promise. In fact when he made it he was already screwing mow.
Why cant I just "get over it"....
I highly doubt if it was reversed my dear wh would accept me saying that to him or accept being tossed aside for someone who meant "nothing"
I mean EVERYTHING N.O.W.
Im the love of his life NOW. He cant live without me NOW.
Im the only woman he wants to put his penis in NOW.
That married old whore is NOW in his words "just some stupid bitch who fell into his lap and made him feel like he had no problems for awhile...but now she makes him feel like shit"
So deep down he did it and thought he could just deal with the possible consequences later and just say...."sorry"
Sorry sunflowergirl but I always loved you and I was never going to leave you. I just wanted some sex and attention on the side and didnt care that I took from you, neglected and made you feel invisible, lonely and worthless in the process. But sorry it wont ever happen again! So why cant you just get over it and everything go back to how it used to be.
Well dear wh...it cant because you literally fucked it all up. I dont trust you or anyone else and never will.
I apologize for the rant...but ya this is on my mind too
First D-day May 2010, Last D-day Sept 2015. Filed for divorce Nov. 2015
Divorce final March 4, 2016
To many false R’s to mention. One to many affairs to list. Cheaters suck, suck the life right out of you, as they smile in your face..
WoundedOpus ( member #39521) posted at 2:34 PM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Word to the 4th
Every time he says she didn't mean anything, that it meant nothing to him, I die a little inside.
How can they not see they are saying We meant less than nothing to them...
The alternative? That they did this to us because We meant less to them than she did. That sucks as well, but most days I'd prefer it over the former since we all know it's bs love, at least then I could think he thought he had a good effing reason!
Carry on...
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Me: BW 37
Him: WH 38
(DDay: 2/2008)
13 years, 5 kids...Seven years of Limbo
“I don't want to get to the end of my life and find that I have just lived the length of it. I want to have lived the width of it as well." ~ Diane Ackerman
Tred ( member #34086) posted at 2:43 PM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
And they wonder why we don't want to hear the phrase "if I'd known how bad this was going to hurt you I wouldn't of cheated"...as if that little consolation phrase is going to make it all better. Yea, sure. As if the damage to me made any difference to the desire to get validation from outside the marriage. I'm not buying it.
Married: 27 years (14 @JFO) D-Day: 11/09/11"Ohhhhh...shut up Tred!" - NOT the official SI motto (DS)
sohowamI ( member #36671) posted at 3:04 PM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Pardon my French but 'absofuckinglootly...' You are all so right.
Yesterday I was told (about LTA of 12 years), 'she really didn't love me...' He still maintains that he 'didn't love her...' So, then, what was the POINT? Of any of them? That they all meant NOTHING and that, therefore, I meant NOTHING either!!
The mind boggles.
WS had two LTAs of 10 years and 12 years; further 8/9 affairs; EAs, 2 OC. Looks horrific but he is fully immersed in trying to find the 'broken.' It's on-going and painful. If there's a blue sky and sunshine, then it's a good day.
TrustGone ( member #36654) posted at 3:08 PM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Mine thought what I didn't know wouldn't hurt me. He thought that he was so smart he would never get caught. He didn't count on OW falling in LUUUUVVVE with him and being mad because he wouldn't tell me about her or anyone else for that matter. He thought it was OK to tell her he loved her when he didn't and gave her an engagement ring to shut her up. Of course that only gave him even longer to betray me before she got tired of the secret life and outed him. It makes me feel so stupid to have trusted someone that much.
Now he has a wife that doesn't love him like I used to love him, doesn't trust him, and will never forgive him. I hope his little secret sexual ecapades was worth it to him. Sorry for the tj, I just know exactly how you feel and I think all of us BS's feel the same way. In a way I wished he would have left me for her, then I would know he got exactly what he deserved.
XWH#2-No longer my monkey Divorced 8/15, Now married to a wonderful man.
"A person is either an asset or a lesson"
"Changing who you are with does not change who you are"
plainpain (original poster member #40139) posted at 4:06 PM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
I have forgiven him, I am forgiving him, I have to forgive him over again every day, sometimes every hour of the day. I don't choose to destroy my own life further. It is going to hurt either way - it might as well hurt with him here, I guess. He is so repentant, but it doesn't undo any of it.
Sometimes I hate that the onus is on me now to forgive him. I sometimes really wish I had walked in on them, so that there would be no question. I could not forgive that, having seen it with my own eyes. Sometimes I hate that I have the capacity to forgive him, that I STILL love him and want him THAT MUCH... and I meant less than nothing to him.
Sometimes I want to kick him out, just so he can spend the rest of his life knowing that he had everything, and that he threw it away. That he trashed his life, my life, his children's lives. I want him to FEEL that inside, like a physical pain, the way I feel it inside.
But the reality is, he'd probably go out and find somebody new tomorrow and start all over and be happy. Because lesson #1 in all of this is that I am completely disposable and completely replaceable. Yay me.
I think this is called the 'anger phase'.
Me: Believer, 40s
Him: Liar, 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R. It only hurts now when it rains.
ILINIA ( member #39836) posted at 4:35 PM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
It is hard that all the onus is now on us. We are the ones that are supposed to forgive, we are the ones that are supposed to figure out a way to move forward, we are the ones that have to "pretend" life is grand in front of our kids. It does suck. We didn't choose this, but now we bear the weight.
My "favorite" lines that WH says are:
a) "I was never going to leave you." So it wasn't enough to be a shitty husband, but you were going to be a shitty husband who sleeps around. Wow, I should feel so lucky to have a husband so dedicated!
2) "I choose you because I love you." Nope, you really didn't choose me and I highly doubt you were thinking about your love for me at the time. Again, I should feel so lucky to have such a super husband.
So all you women, back off. I know his words could sway you, but he's taken. Can you believe this prized, gift to all women, golden, super husband is all mine? Yep, yay for me?
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plainpain (original poster member #40139) posted at 4:44 PM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Yes, it's so special to be chosen eighteen years after he chose me the first time, and after he test drove a few other options, just to feel the wind in his hair. Thanks. Glad to know you decided I'm still drive-able, and not worth the price of trading in for a newer model. Glad to know that, since you have discovered you can't afford the maintenance on both, you decided to stay with the tried and true rather than the shiny model that makes you feel like a million bucks. So happy about that.
Me: Believer, 40s
Him: Liar, 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R. It only hurts now when it rains.
WoundedOpus ( member #39521) posted at 6:12 PM on Monday, August 12th, 2013
Plainpain, completely agree, it takes forgiving every day! It's a special kind of awful to feel disposable, especially when they're SO sure they love us now (pretty sure I heard that 12 years ago as well...)!
Let him move on and be happy with someone else? Hell no, he gets to live with me and what he did forever.....
Me: BW 37
Him: WH 38
(DDay: 2/2008)
13 years, 5 kids...Seven years of Limbo
“I don't want to get to the end of my life and find that I have just lived the length of it. I want to have lived the width of it as well." ~ Diane Ackerman
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